The Hipsters and NYC

[88m3]

Fair enough.


How come Staten Island hasn't blown up like that though? No Subway?

It's a garbage dump literally

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fresh_Kills_Landfill

 

[The Real]

Fair enough.

How come Staten Island hasn't blown up like that though? No Subway?

Yeah, partially because there's no subway, and partially because most of it is filled with wealthier white Conservatives, and lastly, because most the island is pretty isolated and far away from the "cool" boroughs. The parts closest to the ferry to Manhattan, which used to be totally derelict when I was growing up are becoming gentrified by hipsters, though. I've started seeing vegan, gluten-free cafes and people with skintight jeans walking around there.

wha yah gon lie to teh yut?

I'm not lying. Look at the average salaries for most of the people who graduated this year, hipster or not. Most of these people will be living with roommates for a good while.

 

[The Message]

that was what i was trying to get at. The culture here in the D, people getting on board with that shyt. all races. nikka better get it together and realize that this racial shyt is on its way out the door once the last remaining baby boomers die out and leave office.

Gen X and Y just dont see shyt that way

Props.

Culture is the key word. Gentrification wipes out culture, mores, etc. Detroit is still full of culture, spirit, pride and tradition and that will stay because it's in the heart of all it's people, black, white, chaldean, greek, mexican or whatever. Everybody is on board with that shyt.

 

[Hawaiian Punch]

Yeah, i see the irritation. The ethnic hoods are what made NYC, NYC to begin with.

However, to play devil's advocate, could one argue that this is what the next logical step is? I mean for decades NYC was plagued with crime, drugs and general unhappiness. With these Hipsters moving in it seems those negative elements are being reduced. SO I ask why aren't more native New Yorkers on board with such positive changes. Sure the fashion is bizarre and the dudes a passive aggressive putzes but murders gone down, property values up, more food banks and programs.

If one had the ability to participate in these changes why not? They seem to be making NYC a bit more of a sunny place to live in. And the chain store element can be eliminated with proper market projections. If i had the bread im opening a second hand clothing store in BK with the quickness.

just wondering

This is the flipside to it all. The other side to the argument that's hard to deny. Fact is growing up in NYC in the 90s was exciting and scary at the same time. There's nothing cool about the city averaging 2000 murders a year, crack dealers on every corner and every kid going to school with a boxcutter. It bothers me in a way that growing up these things are normal. In the midst of that there was this booming culture emerging from the despair. As much as I hate this change to the generic I can't deny that it's a better environment for my kid to be around. Fact of the matter is 20 years ago I would have no business having my child in some of those areas. Now it's safe and clean.

It hurts me more than anything that my people were never able to capitalize off of it. It hurts me that these environments that we exist in are considered hell, but a few cacs coming in makes it trendy. The closest we had to a renaissance was Fort Greene in the 90s. You had real culture there, but even that became commercialized into neosoul and it still was a bit grimy area.

 

[Guess Who]

If you don't struggle how will you ever become anything?

So struggle is required to be successful? *looks at random hood across the world and random suburb across the world* ...nope! Doesn't add up for me.

And trust me bruh, I've probably struggled more than the majority of posters on this site. Struggle is definitely something I know well. I know what it feels like to commit crime out of desperation. I know what it's like to not know where your next meal is coming from or not knowing if I'm gonna have a roof over my head next week. I've lived in a shelter. I know struggle. And because I know struggle and how unhappy it is, I choose to not define myself by it, because if I let struggle be a part of my identity, then I will become struggle. Instead, I'd rather define myself by the resiliency and hunger to be better than I was yesterday.

 

[TLR Is Mental Poison]

Yeah..

Grown ass men and women living with 3 other people havin to bring chicks and dudes to their room to fukk like they 16 years-old..

Where can someone making 30-50k rent an apartment in NYC alone? The rule is 40x rent which = $1,250/mo. Look at the neighborhoods where apartments in that price range are coming up.

new york all apartments classifieds - craigslist

You joke and snipe at these folks, but that a grown person has to have a roommate to live somewhere safe in NYC is not that funny to me. This isn't a lifestyle these people are choosing, this is what the out of control RE market is forcing people to do.

 

[TLR Is Mental Poison]

Props.

Culture is the key word. Gentrification wipes out culture, mores, etc. Detroit is still full of culture, spirit, pride and tradition and that will stay because it's in the heart of all it's people, black, white, chaldean, greek, mexican or whatever. Everybody is on board with that shyt.

People in the D must be different than people in NYC. How can someone who moves into a neighborhood take part in a culture that immediately rejects them?

 

[Joe Sixpack]

Where can someone making 30-50k rent an apartment in NYC alone? The rule is 40x rent which = $1,250/mo. Look at the neighborhoods where apartments in that price range are coming up.

new york all apartments classifieds - craigslist

You joke and snipe at these folks, but that a grown person has to have a roommate to live somewhere safe in NYC is not that funny to me. This isn't a lifestyle these people are choosing, this is what the out of control RE market is forcing people to do.

I agree with you. It's fukked up and I wanna leave NYC because of this.

 

[88m3]

Where can someone making 30-50k rent an apartment in NYC alone? The rule is 40x rent which = $1,250/mo. Look at the neighborhoods where apartments in that price range are coming up.

new york all apartments classifieds - craigslist

You joke and snipe at these folks, but that a grown person has to have a roommate to live somewhere safe in NYC is not that funny to me. This isn't a lifestyle these people are choosing, this is what the out of control RE market is forcing people to do.

Most of those were scams as well.

The requirements are absurd btw

 

[the next guy]

It's a garbage dump literally

Fresh Kills Landfill - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Yeah, partially because there's no subway, and partially because most of it is filled with wealthier white Conservatives, and lastly, because most the island is pretty isolated and far away from the "cool" boroughs. The parts closest to the ferry to Manhattan, which used to be totally derelict when I was growing up are becoming gentrified by hipsters, though. I've started seeing vegan, gluten-free cafes and people with skintight jeans walking around there.



I'm not lying. Look at the average salaries for most of the people who graduated this year, hipster or not. Most of these people will be living with roommates for a good while.

So it's seeing slower change. My point being that the Hipsters need to mellow out and move past Brooklyn. If this was more then BK and Manhattan then this would not be a problem.

 

[Dirty Mcdrawz]

I hate hipsters..

Im seein nikkas walkin down the street with their jeans rolled past their ankles like fukkin bytches..

How could a man wear his pants like that??



I wish I could beat the shyt out of these clowns..

new age man.

not really....

 

[the next guy]

not really....

 

[GoPro]

This thread gets made every so often. Gentrification aint going away til the goons start fukking with white people. Stack chips or get thrown in the bushes

 

[88m3]

So it's seeing slower change. My point being that the Hipsters need to mellow out and move past Brooklyn. If this was more then BK and Manhattan then this would not be a problem.

I haven't been to Staten Island since 2000. So I have no idea what goes on there anymore. It used to look like a shytty part of NJ or something out of the Sopranos Series. Little houses circa 1945-1975 on little plots of land.




Eventually they'll price themselves out of neighborhoods and be forced elsewhere. It's already happening in Greenpoint and Williamsburg. They then moved out towards Bushwick and Queens. I really hope they don't ruin Crown Heights and Bed Stuy.There really aren't any positives from gentrification. People are being chased around the city no matter what income bracket they're in. It's getting absurd.
I honestly don't think there are enough people making the money to sustain the market that "people"(the market) think(s) there are.

 

[the next guy]

I haven't been to Staten Island since 2000. So I have no idea what goes on there anymore. It used to look like a shytty part of NJ or something out of the Sopranos Series. Little houses circa 1945-1975 on little plots of land.




Eventually they'll will price themselves out of neighborhoods it's already happening in Greenpoint and Williamsburg. They then moved out towards Bushwick and Queens. I really hope they don't ruin Crown Heights and Bed Stuy.

I think at this point they will reach ENY in 10 years.