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Yeah i've heard that before. I'm graduating with a degree in Communications this May, but i want to pursue acting. Atlanta is supposed to be a great place to pursue that, much more practical than Los Angles or New York. I'm very excited for the possibilities Atlanta would give me. Probably would have a better dating experience out there as well.....

Naw...it' mostly fake-it-til-you-make-it down here. nikkas ain't doing half as well as they pretent...especially if they are associated with a reality show. If you want to be taken seriously in your career, you'd do better to go the LA. I'm moving out of there this summer. Too many talentless people with audition mode and folks who know better more interesting in exploiting them instead of mentoring them.
 

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That's how it is mane, you can get the city scene & picturesque views for cheaper than being in an LA or New York. Plus with the weather getting warmer, there will be a lot more outdoor location shots

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Yeah there are a lotta fake it til you make it's, but I will say it might be easier to break into the industry here. I got a homie born and raised here who shot a movie (won some awards), shot shorts, appeared in different stuff, and worked in various capacities in the industry, yet still decided to move to LA. EVERYBODY out there tryna make it, it ain't as many people here to compete with IMO
 

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Naw...it' mostly fake-it-til-you-make-it down here. nikkas ain't doing half as well as they pretent...especially if they are associated with a reality show. If you want to be taken seriously in your career, you'd do better to go the LA. I'm moving out of there this summer. Too many talentless people with audition mode and folks who know better more interesting in exploiting them instead of mentoring them.

I'd advise you to think long and hard about LA. LA isn't everything it's portrayed to be, It's extremely expensive as well, and everybody and they momma are claiming to be an actor out there. My sister graduated from UCLA and has been out in LA for years and shared with me how bitter people are out there because they've been taken advantage out there so much. She's leaving LA and moving to Chicago in July to pursue theatre(chicago is better for theatre or New York). Me personally i can't afford LA, and would rather go somewhere where it's a small pound and you could become a big fish than go to a huge pound where there dozens of small fish amongst huge fish(a list actors).
 

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That's how it is mane, you can get the city scene & picturesque views for cheaper than being in an LA or New York. Plus with the weather getting warmer, there will be a lot more outdoor location shots

@ExcellentNegro @MikeElam23

Yeah there are a lotta fake it til you make it's, but I will say it might be easier to break into the industry here. I got a homie born and raised here who shot a movie (won some awards), shot shorts, appeared in different stuff, and worked in various capacities in the industry, yet still decided to move to LA. EVERYBODY out there tryna make it, it ain't as many people here to compete with IMO
But look at the type of shows that are associated with the entertainment here. The people who actually do some ground breaking shyt aren't even going the industry route, their going independent and end up moving to LA because the industry out there begs them to. Less competition doesn't = a better situation, it usually leads to career stagnation. Plus there is still sort of a glass ceiling when it comes to "making it here" A good number of these nikkas ain't trying to win...they just wanna look good while losing.
 

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But look at the type of shows that are associated with the entertainment here. The people who actually do some ground breaking shyt aren't even going the industry route, their going independent and end up moving to LA because the industry out there begs them to. Less competition doesn't = a better situation, it usually leads to career stagnation. Plus there is still sort of a glass ceiling when it comes to "making it here" A good number of these nikkas ain't trying to win...they just wanna look good while losing.

Yeah i hear you. I'm not saying just stay in ATL(or any one place) forever. I just think it's a better place to start and once you get your feet wet and achieve some success THEN branch out to bigger cities(LA or NY ) because then you have a name instead of going to the big cities right out the gate. LA would be a great place to start out but mainly for me it's an issue of finances. LA would be just too expensive for me. ATL would probably be an easier transition for me and also closer to my family(TX)as well.Just my opinion though...
 

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But look at the type of shows that are associated with the entertainment here. The people who actually do some ground breaking shyt aren't even going the industry route, their going independent and end up moving to LA because the industry out there begs them to. Less competition doesn't = a better situation, it usually leads to career stagnation. Plus there is still sort of a glass ceiling when it comes to "making it here" A good number of these nikkas ain't trying to win...they just wanna look good while losing.

C'mon bruh, reality shows are a very small percentage of shows shot here. And a few notables have started here and branched out. Plus a network can come to you and choose to shoot the show in Atlanta, which is the case with the company I worked for 3 shows. Plus, I'm pretty certain @MikeElam23 is probably interested in gettin into serious, scripted productions.
 

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Man! Today was a beautiful fukkin day in Atlanta. I was down at Piedmont Park for my kickball league hung out around the area, then walked the beltline from there to Edgewood. I love my hometown!

A nikka bout to be dead to the world in a few hrs tho
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How 1980s Atlanta Became the Backdrop for the Future
The Southern capital has set the scene for dystopian thrillers such as Divergent and The Walking Dead, most notably via buildings designed by the architect John Portman.
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Downtown Atlanta contains very little brick and mortar. A westward view of the city’s skyline—the same image used in the opening credits of TV’s The Walking Dead—reveals this Southern capital’s history at a glance: It burned to the ground in the Civil War and was rebuilt as a transportation hub filled with pulsating veins of highways and eager Fortune 500 companies. A construction boom during the Reagan years gave the ATL shiny buildings buttressed by tons of cement, creating an army of concrete and glass in a landscape practically devoid of the past. Now, the city is crawling with movie producers looking for backdrops for their science-fiction thrillers, further bolstering Atlanta's growing reputation as futuristic cinema's go-to city.


Three Classic Fairy Tales Examined Through the Lens of Architecture


Over the course of a century, the sci-fi genre invited viewers to travel through space and to dwell in the urban centers of tomorrow. A quaint cardboard rocket went to the moon in the 1902 silent film Le Voyage dans La Lune; the largest soundstage in Europe housed the models that became space stations and death stars in 1977’s Star Wars; and in 1999, The Matrix combined next-level special effects with airborne action, upping the ante for how characters interact with architecture on film. Today, film editors use software to build up and tear down entire civilizations in a matter of keystrokes without leaving their desks. Yet one architect’s work is luring movie franchises such as The Hunger Games and Divergent to the rooftops of Atlanta, where forty-year-old buildings—and computer-generated environments—are locked in a pixelated power struggle.

Insurgent, the second installment of the Divergent series (based on the dystopian young-adult trilogy about a world where free will is outlawed), was filmed in Atlanta and features aerial views of the architect John Portman’s hometown and mini empire, including more than a dozen blocks of real estate he designed and developed along the Peachtree Street business corridor. Although the 90-year-old Portman had nothing to do with the film’s production, images of his high-rise architecture inform the story as much as any of the sequel’s digitally enhanced action sequences. Portman’s buildings bring an element of realism to the movies in an age where the competition between physical structures and green-screen graphics is visual and tangible. Unlike video games and animation, live action requires both photography and architecture to convey a sense of place and time, even if that place is light years away.

Insurgent’s production designer Alec Hammond came to Atlanta looking for a location that could be manipulated into a post-apocalyptic megatropolis. For the film's fictional Candor faction's headquarters, the uniformity of Peachtree Center’s septet of Portman office towers fit the bill. Exterior shots were filmed from the roof of the Portman-designed AmericasMart, where protagonist Tris Prior (Shailene Woodley) visits Jack Kang, the fictional leader of the Candor faction. Onscreen, Tris traipses past Portman’s skybridges and leaps through shards of glass. During these scenes, the audience also glimpses the iconic blue saucer that is the Polaris Restaurant atop Portman’s 1967 Hyatt Regency Hotel.

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Decades ago, Portman never envisioned his buildings as dystopian fortresses or imagined Hollywood actors rappelling down his skyscrapers. In 2008, tax incentives sped Atlanta’s ascension as a film-production hub and alternative to Los Angeles. Thanks to hits such as Anchorman 2, The Internship, Selma, and TV’s The Walking Dead, the industry generated $5.1 billion for Georgia’s economy in 2014. Yet, movie producers stalked Portman buildings years beforeInsurgent’s stuntmen zip-lined over AmericasMart, and The Hunger Games: Mockingjay relocated elements of Panem’s Capitol to the massive atrium of the Atlanta Marriott Marquis.

Clean lines and neo-futuristic forms made Portman’s architecture from the 1970s and 1980s camera-ready. Burt Reynolds was one of the first to film at Atlanta’s Westin Peachtree Plaza in 1981 and while on location there, he also recorded a 220-foot freefall stunt at the neighboring Hyatt Regency, using both hotels for the noir action movie Sharky’s Machine. After that film, other directors began to imagine Portman’s concrete obelisks and curved walls as they might appear in the distant future. Detroit’s Portman-designed Renaissance Center provided inspiration for the fictitious Delta City in Paul Verhoeven’sRobocop and appeared in other films including Out of Sight, Presumed Innocent, and Grosse Point Blank. The Westin Bonaventure in Los Angeles, a classic multi-cylindrical Portman hotel, can be spotted in dozens of sci-fi action thrillers including John Carpenter’s Escape From LA as well as Strange Days, Mission Impossible III, and Interstellar.

"I’ve always thought Portman’s buildings would make very beautiful ruins."
“[Directors are] projecting a future by imagining how it would look in ruins,” said Michael Hays, a professor of architectural theory at Harvard. “All the flesh has been removed and you just see the architectural bones. I’ve always thought Portman’s buildings would make very beautiful ruins, because the essence of them is so powerful and so direct.”

Portman’s use of scale expands spatial perceptions from the human level to the colossal. In multistory buildings, elevators are the primary mode of transport from the lobby through a vast atrium; most of Portman’s elevators are made of glass. Both Clint Eastwood’s In the Line of Fire (1993) and James Cameron’sTrue Lies (1994) utilized the elevators in Portman’s Westin Bonaventure to convey the importance of scale and take viewers along for the ride.

“Directors refer to Portman’s famous glass elevators because they translate the idea of motion through large spaces,” Hays said. “It’s a parallax and contributes to the hallucinatory element of his work. This gives his buildings movement, and he choreographs that movement through space.”

Hays also believes filmmakers use architecture to represent societies that are forming or collapsing, and conceptual structures are too eccentric to symbolize the collective groups that dominate dystopian storylines. Portman’s work fits on film in part because his design philosophy straddles the modernism and brutalism handed down to his generation from predecessors such as Le Corbusier and Marcel Breuer, who strove to incorporate functionality and community into their buildings.

While Portman was earning his degree in architecture at Georgia Tech in Atlanta in the late 1940s, Frank Lloyd Wright visited the university. Portman asked Wright for advice, and the famous architect told him, “Young man, go seek Emerson.” Portman then set out to balance the tenets of scale and self-reliance in his blueprints—a direction that ultimately gave his work a humanistic touch and saved him from experimenting too deeply with post-modernism in the mixed-use commercial properties, offices, and upscale hotels he designed later in his career.

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“It’s important to understand how we use and experience architecture,” Portman told me in an interview at one of his offices inside Atlanta’s 60-story SunTrust Plaza, which he designed. “The [buildings] serve the human being, not the other way around. I don’t think architects have spent enough time thinking holistically about how architecture affects people. Hopefully we are headed in the way of developing our physical world into a human-centric environment. Architecture shapes how people live and perform. Everything architects do is for people.”

Portman has faced choruses of critics over the years, many of whom say his insular structures “turn their backs” on the true vibrancy and community of city life. But as his legacy continues to take shape, both the architecture world and civic organizations are beginning to revisit his work. The High Museum of Art exhibited a Portman retrospective in 2009; in 2011, he was the subject of the documentary, A Life of Building; and at an Atlanta award ceremony in 2013, he was honored by the former Atlanta Mayor and U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations, Andrew Young, who, as reported by The Atlanta Business Chronicle, called Portman an artist and “a man who believed he could make something out of nothing.”

Portman’s architecture may not be as famous as that of some of his contemporaries, but he’s likely racked up more screen time than most. While the Frank Gehrys and I.M. Peis of the world have made their marks with idiosyncratic one-offs that dazzle and beckon, Portman seems more concerned with not standing out. If his exteriors appear forged by brute force and sharp edges, inside a heart beats in amplified rhythms. In refusing to join the race, John Portman has created a place for himself in the pantheon. The circles, the skylights, the quiet corners, the joyful repetition of form—these are things he shares with the likes of architects Louis Kahn or Renzo Piano. Portman has mastered the geometry, but the humanist in him will never let it win. "Seek Emerson," the voice of Wright echoes. If a building forgets about the people, it ceases to be architecture. At that point, leave it on the cutting-room floor.

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Bottom line....Atlanta is about that PAPER, just about ere'body down here is getting money. This is the ultimate hustler town, you can't get money in Atlanta you lame as hell. :camby:

You probably were not moving in LA properly, cause in LA you definitely would run into more stars being on a 2 day vacation.
 

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Where do people live in Atlanta? I've been looking online at apartment, but it's hard to get a good impression. All the places have crazy reviews. People either think their apartment is amazing or the worst place in the world. I can't tell if the bad experiences in the reviews are just stupid people or what. I'm looking for a place ITP near Marta... with cool shyt within walking distance.

Note: I'm not going to have a car for the first few months.
 

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Where do people live in Atlanta? I've been looking online at apartment, but it's hard to get a good impression. All the places have crazy reviews. People either think their apartment is amazing or the worst place in the world. I can't tell if the bad experiences in the reviews are just stupid people or what. I'm looking for a place ITP near Marta... with cool shyt within walking distance.

Note: I'm not going to have a car for the first few months.

Whats the most you are willing to spend on rent per month?
 

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Let's say 1000. I'm pretty sure that's too much, but let's just say that's max. What are my options?
 
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