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[OHSNAP!]

What Jay did in 2000 that was hotter/bigger than this?

This destroyed the summer

Yup. Dude is just confusing things

Quality is not popularity is not sales...dude doesn't get it

Being truly HOT in a 2-3 year span doesn't mean you're completely forgotten two years later. Dude doesn't get it

Putting out quality music over almost 30 years (Face) doesn't necessarily mean you're more popular in total than a dude who was alot hotter in his 3 year prime period (P). Dude doesn't get it

Only point I don't agree with you was Set It Off. It was a minor rap hit, but on a smaller scale than Bouncin' Back, Momma Got Ass and Oohwee imo. Everything else is spot-on

 

[JustCKing]

Nah, Bouncin Back was a good 1st single for that album, but Oohwee gave P like a second life, I think it was P 1st release with being on Universal and he as I stated, changed up his style and went more the dance/bounce route for that GameFace album, or launch of the New No Limit.

P's Oohwee was much bigger that summer, Bouncin Back was not a club song, Oohwee stayed in rotation on the radio and in the club that year.

"Oohwee" did not give P a second life. It was a moderate hit that did nothing for his career. Game Face tanked (no pun) and it was a wrap. He managed to put out a couple of good albums in '04 and '05, but by then, he'd lost his base.

"Bouncin Back" was still a bigger hit.

 

[Wacky D]

It was Face's first solo album since Untouchable and that was a bigger deal than P.

How was Trick Daddy not big enough for a Vibe cover, but Master P in 2002 was? That doesn't even make sense.

Of course, P is also an entrepreneur and a pioneer in Southern Hip Hop, but that doesn't warrant getting a magazine cover.

Claim Master P is the biggest "Southern" Icon, but then make a condition not to name anyone regional. Pretty defeatist. If Master P truly is he biggest Southern Icon, there wouldn't be any conditions. Scarface and OutKast are bigger icons from the South than Master P.



Juve was still a bigger deal than Master P in '02.

You're right about Project English vs. G-Code.

scarface's time was up already.

the difference between master p & trick daddy is that MASTER P IS MASTER P.
and trick daddy was never quite big enough to be on the cover of a non-rap magazine. he never shifted that next gear.

I lived down south. niccas aint on outkast like yall are on here. that's like saying the roots are bigger philly icons than beanie siegal.

scarface is the south goat, but in the grand scheme of things, hes more of an underdog type. this may be blasphemy to some, but hes not a hip-hop icon.

juvenile was the bigger rapper of the era, but in 2002, he was stuck in the bushes. why the hell would they put him on a celebratory cover?

 

[JustCKing]

Nelly in 00 when country grammar hit the charts and E.I. was killing the club and when he dropped Hot in Here, you wouldn't say during those years Nelly wasn't bigger than Jay?

What did Jay do in 2000? The Blueprint came out in 2001 around the time Nelly's 2nd album (I may be off) but Nelly was killing the game in those years.

Now in 2017 and we can go back to 2007, yea, I'll take Jay, but from 2000-2002, it was all Nelly breh.

You're confused. My point was just because an artist once a upon a time sold more records doesn't make them a bigger present day artist. Of course, Nelly was bigger than Jay in the early to mid '00's, just like P was bigger than Face in the mid 90's, but he hasn't been bigger since then.

 

[OHSNAP!]

"Oohwee" did not give P a second life. It was a moderate hit that did nothing for his career. Game Face tanked (no pun) and it was a wrap. He managed to put out a couple of good albums in '04 and '05, but by then, he'd lost his base.

"Bouncin Back" was still a bigger hit.

I was a huge teen nerd during that time, listening to tons of albums, always checking every new rap release and watching TV, bumping the radio on the side...Oohwee was bigger than Bouncin' Back without a doubt to me

I agree that Gameface tanked, BUT thx to his singles P still said somewhat relevant/visible, just like WackyD stated

 

[NO-BadAzz]

"Oohwee" did not give P a second life. It was a moderate hit that did nothing for his career. Game Face tanked (no pun) and it was a wrap. He managed to put out a couple of good albums in '04 and '05, but by then, he'd lost his base.

"Bouncin Back" was still a bigger hit.

How "Oohwee" was a moderate hit (whatever that mean) a hit is a hit breh, especially when it was played in the club and the women liked the song.

It catered towards women, now if you say you didn't like it, then cool, but most women in the club shook their asses to it along with Rock the Boat and Choppa Style. Those songs stayed getting burn in the club/parties/lounges so how is it not a hit? Those were in rotation on the radio and videos? Hell Rock the Boat even came on Uncut breh.

Bouncing Back wasn't even a good song. It was a good setup for that album as I stated, but to say it was a hit..nah breh. That song was a good 1st single. It had no impact on his album.

 

[JustCKing]

scarface's time was up already.

the difference between master p & trick daddy is that MASTER P IS MASTER P.
and trick daddy was never quite big enough to be on the cover of a non-rap magazine. he never shifted that next gear.

I lived down south. niccas aint on outkast like yall are on here. that's like saying the roots are bigger philly icons than beanie siegal.

scarface is the south goat, but in the grand scheme of things, hes more of an underdog type. this may be blasphemy to some, but hes not a hip-hop icon.

juvenile was the bigger rapper of the era, but in 2002, he was stuck in the bushes. why the hell would they put him on a celebratory cover?

Face's time wasn't up.

The Vibe cover was a rap cover and Vibe isn't exactly a Non-rap magazine and P definitely wasn't some big mainstream artist in 2002.

OutKast is bigger than Master P in the real world. They aren't some Internet sensation, which is why the Roots comparison is laughable.

Face is a Hip Hop icon and even if by some stretch of the imagination, he wasn't, the fact that you're conceding he's the Southern GOAT makes him a bigger southern icon than P.

Now you're admitting that Juve was the bigger rapper of that era, so I'm not quite sure what you're arguing here.

 

[Wacky D]

You're confused. My point was just because an artist once a upon a time sold more records doesn't make them a bigger present day artist. Of course, Nelly was bigger than Jay in the early to mid '00's, just like P was bigger than Face in the mid 90's, but he hasn't been bigger since then.

scarface is NOT jay-z.

master p, nelly, jay-z. these are all household names.

 

[JustCKing]

I was a huge teen nerd during that time, listening to tons of albums, always checking every new rap release and watching TV, bumping the radio on the side...Oohwee was bigger than Bouncin' Back without a doubt to me

No it wasn't. "Bouncin Back" was bigger than "Oohwee". Thay much can be proven.

 

[OHSNAP!]

scarface is NOT jay-z.

master p, nelly, jay-z. these are all household names.

True. I love Face, he's one of my top 3 rappers ever, but he never had them big hits or big media attention to become a huge name. P was on freaking Dancing With The Stars

 

[JustCKing]

scarface is NOT jay-z.

master p, nelly, jay-z. these are all household names.

Scarface is Jay Z in terms of his status in Hip Hop though. In terms of Hip Hop music, Face is a Hip Hop icon.

 

[NO-BadAzz]

You're confused. My point was just because an artist once a upon a time sold more records doesn't make them a bigger present day artist. Of course, Nelly was bigger than Jay in the early to mid '00's, just like P was bigger than Face in the mid 90's, but he hasn't been bigger since then.

Breh as I stated, (Now) today Jay is a bigger artist. Back in 2000, was Jay bigger than Nelly, Hell no Nelly kilt the game with Country Grammar and the Hot in Here single come on breh, you're a smart dude, you know when someone is bigger than someone.

I'm not even bigging up sales or anything that's you. I'm speaking on impact in clubs/radio/parties/concerts/charts etc. Nelly ran the game in 2000-2002 and Jay wasn't bigger than Nelly IMO in that year span

Jay had nothing going at this song in the summer


This song killed the summer that year

Then the song with Kelly Rowland came out...Come on breh...Nelly was a bigger artist than Jay in that time span

 

[OHSNAP!]

Scarface is Jay Z in terms of his status in Hip Hop though. In terms of Hip Hop music, Face is a Hip Hop icon.

If we talkin' 90s rap fans (80s babies), everyone would agree

If we talkin' all generations, most under 20 wouldn't know Face...everyone and their momma know Jay Z

 

[JustCKing]

Breh as I stated, (Now) today Jay is a bigger artist. Back in 2000, was Jay bigger than Nelly, Hell no Nelly kilt the game with Country Grammar and the Hot in Here single come on breh, you're a smart dude, you know when someone is bigger than someone.

I'm not even bigging up sales or anything that's you. I'm speaking on impact in clubs/radio/parties/concerts/charts etc. Nelly ran the game in 2000-2002 and Jay wasn't bigger than Nelly IMO in that year span

Jay had nothing going at this song in the summer


This song killed the summer that year

Then the song with Kelly Rowland came out...Come on breh...Nelly was a bigger artist than Jay in that time span

Past tense. You're harping on 2000-2003, when I never said Jay was bigger than Nelly during that period. That wasn't even the point I was making.

 

[NO-BadAzz]

Face's time wasn't up.

The Vibe cover was a rap cover and Vibe isn't exactly a Non-rap magazine and P definitely wasn't some big mainstream artist in 2002.

OutKast is bigger than Master P in the real world. They aren't some Internet sensation, which is why the Roots comparison is laughable.

Face is a Hip Hop icon and even if by some stretch of the imagination, he wasn't, the fact that you're conceding he's the Southern GOAT makes him a bigger southern icon than P.

Now you're admitting that Juve was the bigger rapper of that era, so I'm not quite sure what you're arguing here.

Dude, there's a video floating around that Big Boi pulled up to Mr. Serv On house back in 99 and was surprised at how big dude house was and was shocked at all the things he had. Outkast wasn't making more money than Mr. Serv On.
They hit the scene when P fell and NL fell off. They weren't as big as you are making them out to be when back then breh.
Mr. Serv On tells the story when Big Boi pulled up to his house. The clip is out there on the internet if you wanna fact check me