That statement was in correlation to something I was stating about Mia not having promo
So this song doesn't have Mia X DNA in it from the Payback song?
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That statement was in correlation to something I was stating about Mia not having promo
So this song doesn't have Mia X DNA in it from the Payback song?
1. The statement was in regards to Mia X not getting promo
2. The song stayed in rotation because of Foxy appearance and what she was doing at the time in 97, It was a hot song, which gave Mia X her stardom, Here I Go made it to BET because of Mind of Mystikal being re-released by Jive Records (as I mentioned) and I don't even recall that song being played on BET (rap city). That song was a regional hit, really local. Radio stations across the south (before JIVE came into the picture) wasn't bumping "Here I GO" on the radio. His 1st single made it to BET when Jive came into the picture (Yall aint ready) again local hit.
3. They were not known, most didn't even know they were in Silk's video what is you saying dude?
4. You're saying C and Silkk's doing the same numbers and saying "It Aint My Fault" wasn't a big single (far from being a big single) when I gave you facts and numbers showing other wise.
5. Here I go was never bigger than "Party Don't Stop" at the time both songs came out
and you're seriousYour first two points are contradictory. You can't say Mia X had stardom when the previous sentence clearly says the song stayed in rotation because of Foxy.
You not being able to recall Mystikal being played on BET is neither here or there. Your recall isn't all that reliable because you couldn't even remember whether most of No Limit artists even had videos.
Destiny's Child was known. They had a hit single BEFORE appearing on Silkk's album.
"Here I Go" was bigger. That song couldn't have been local. I heard it on the radio numerous times and I live in GA.
If your single blows up across the nation, you're not a star?
It's here and there, because I follow the dude's career and I watched Rap City and one would be able to say that "dude video was played a good bit on BET" not on some it was aired 1 or 2 times.
A lot of folks don't recall NL artists having videos, you can go on YT and see the very 1st comment of that Big ED video you posted and it clearly states "I didn't know that he made a video for this song"
Destiny Child was not a household name breh, If you asked 100 ppl about DC appearing on Silkk's 1st single off Charge it 2 the Game, they'll laugh at you. They were not known, they wasn't even in his video like artists that are known, a few shots here and there with their faces in picture frames and shots of Beyonce singing the hook, how, if you're well "known" group, you are just be singing the hook, you'd think they have some bars in the song other than just that plain hook if they were KNOWN like that. Stop it breh.
Here I go song was a big local hit, As Jive re-releasing that CD and Mystikal got bigger with NL the song became bigger, and when CED came out to it on Kings Of Comedy the world was introduced to that song. That song was NOT all over Southern radio in HEAVY rotation at the time. The song was a local hit LA, MS, and parts of TX, maybe it stretched to Bama back in 95 and what I mean, it being played heavy on radio stations in these parts of the country.
It's here and there, because I follow the dude's career and I watched Rap City and one would be able to say that "dude video was played a good bit on BET" not on some it was aired 1 or 2 times.
A lot of folks don't recall NL artists having videos, you can go on YT and see the very 1st comment of that Big ED video you posted and it clearly states "I didn't know that he made a video for this song"
Destiny Child was not a household name breh, If you asked 100 ppl about DC appearing on Silkk's 1st single off Charge it 2 the Game, they'll laugh at you. They were not known, they wasn't even in his video like artists that are known, a few shots here and there with their faces in picture frames and shots of Beyonce singing the hook, how, if you're well "known" group, you are just be singing the hook, you'd think they have some bars in the song other than just that plain hook if they were KNOWN like that. Stop it breh.
Here I go song was a big local hit, As Jive re-releasing that CD and Mystikal got bigger with NL the song became bigger, and when CED came out to it on Kings Of Comedy the world was introduced to that song. That song was NOT all over Southern radio in HEAVY rotation at the time. The song was a local hit LA, MS, and parts of TX, maybe it stretched to Bama back in 95 and what I mean, it being played heavy on radio stations in these parts of the country.
Foxy, being on the song, kept the song on the airwaves, She was on at that point, so a record with her on it would keep it in rotation, adding to the fact that Master P was blowing up and was the new person on the scene world wide, toppled off with Mia X making a good record, all that kept the song on the radio. The song blew up and was played all around the world, Mystikal didn't have a song that was played around the world like Party Don't Stop.
Unpredictable didn't have a single off that album that made an impact like Party Don't Stop did, that song was being played in NY and up North. Hell even I'm bout it was played up North with guess who on it (Mia X)
What song/single Mystikal had out that played up North off that Mind of Mystikal album and Unpredictable album? "The Man Right Chea" nah it was "Aint no Limit featuring Silkk that was blaring on NY radio airwaves??
We already said "Here I GO" had become a regional hit (when Jive took over)
By your logic, Mia X wasn't a star. According to you, she only got played because Foxy was on the song.
You may have followed dude's career, but saying Mystikal was some local artist is hugely downplaying his standing at the time. Mia X was nowhere near as huge as Mystikal. Mystikal's verses were anticipated. People copped No Limit albums for Mystikal verses.
If you were a huge fan of No Limit, you knew those songs had videos.
According to you Destiny's Child were stars. "No, No, No" was in fact played all across the nation. It was a platinum single that peaked at #3. They were featured on the song. If they weren't known entities, they could've easily been relegated to "additional vocals" credits, but they weren't. To be fair, Mo B. dikk is also on the song, but he doesn't appear in the video. Even then, he and O'Dell got additional vocals credits.
How was "Here I Go" a local hit, if it was played in Mississippi, Texas, Alabama, and Georgia. Local means it didn't go beyond New Orleans.
Quote where I said Mia X wasn't a star? The song got played a lot on all your urban radio stations across the country because of Foxy being on the track and it being a good song.
Mystikal before he got with NL was a regional star breh
Mia X in 97-98 was on the same level career stardom wise as Mystikal, More ppl may have like Mystikal style, but they were on the same platform breh. Both A list stars on the tank, Both in the starting lineup.
As I stated, I never knew those songs had video, there was cat in this thread here who is prolly more of a die hard fan than I am and didn't know a NL artist had a video for a certain song.
Ok breh DC were stars, I just ran down my thoughts on that statement. Stars don't just sing hooks breh and not add nothing to the song. If you can, post a video of a platinum selling artist that's featured on someone's song just only singing a hook, and not adding nothing to the song. Just str8 hook, no ad-libbin or nothing and I'll give you that.
Those states back then, were considered "local" breh. You can't fit today's time into yesterdays, once you hit the Carolina/FL, you were considered regional in a sense.
And I stated that it was played locally in New Orleans when it came out, after Jive got a re-release on the album that's when folks started hearing outside of New Orleans
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outside of rap city putting that serv-on/big pun song in rotation, none of those other videos got any type of play.
youre killing your own argument breh.
lol yea. "the man right chea" didn't get any airplay on the east coast.
east coast had luv for mystikal. that's why the crowd was standing. but they weren't familiar with those songs except for the people who eventually bought the album. LOL.
im east coast. so in that rap city clip I posted, when big boy hit the drop for "the man right chea", I was geeked trying to figure out what song that was.
apparently, it was a hit in other markets, and the album was already platinum. breh, that clip is from the keenan ivory wayans show.
that's no different than going on the Vibe. those shows had the same musical guests.
Every No Limit release had their own ad in The Source.
P won that award a while after No Limit began declining. How do you mention Face winning lyricist of the year for no reason? Face ain't a lyricist now? The album he dropped in 2000 didn't get 5 mics and none of his other albums did either until The Source re-rated The Diary and gave The Fix 5 mics in 2002.
I'm not saying P didn't deserve the cover, but No Limit wasn't exactly running the game at that point. There were bigger artists than P and the 504 Boyz at that point. I never said Face needed the cover. He got a cover later that year.
Regardless of the '02 cover promoting Romeo, it was still amoment considering neither of them had any music that was making an impact at the time.
As far as the Vibe cover, there was again Juve (Project English was a bigger deal than Game Face), Trick Daddy, Big Tymers ("Still Fly" was easily bigger than any song P had out). The South was definitely not slowing down. There were Southern rappers from all over The South with big singles, and platinum and gold albums at the time.
you act like having an ad in the source is the pinnacle of promotion. all sorts of nobodies had that breh.
AGAIN, the source award that P won, had nothing to do with music.
you have the scarface stuff confused. I'm referring to "the fix" getting 5 mics in 2002. the summer before that, was the source awards where they gave him lyricist of the year. I'm not saying scarface wasn't a lyricist, but he had no business winning that award in 2001.
master p indeed deserved that cover in 2000. the 504 album was the big reboot/comeback album. and while the big tymers album/run ended up being better, the actual lead-up & release of the 504 album was a bigger deal. while the thought of a big tymers album at the time was suspect unless you were from the south or something. I remember being at the height of my cash money fandom, and I bootlegged it, cuz I didn't know if it would be worth the money........it ended up being my most-played release of the century thus far.
THE VIBE COVER:
- juvenile had disappeared by that point.
- trick daddy wasn't really big enough to be on the cover of the vibe.
- as for the big tymers - the cover might've been turned in already before "still fly" blew up. nobody expected the big tymers to carry cash money after the hot boys broke up.
- the south was still cranking out hits but it was at a pit-stop in terms of star-power. no limit was done, cash money was in limbo before "still fly" blew up. and this was over a year before they started pushing crunk music.
- so yea, with master p still being visible, its only right that he gets the call to fill in that 3rd slot, seeing that hes the main reason the south had go to that point. shoot, mystikal's album at the time wasn't doing all that either. the whole premise of the cover was bad-timing.
iirc, they paid P up front and he left them hanging.
really, I think it was more of a reverse robbery, where they tried to outsmart P and it backfired.
nope.
c-murder albums didn't get good promotion neither.
the CP3 album just-so-happened to have the re-release of "down 4 my Ns"
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the singles charts are misleading.
DMX himself is a prime example. some of his biggest hits charted low as hell.
"it aint my fault" was definitely one of the bigger rap records of 1998.
I have to disagree with you here.
mystikal in 97-98 was arguably one of the 5 most popular rappers in the game. yea, he didn't really get a chance to have his own hit singles for unpredictable, but just based on sheer popularity, he was arguably top 5, definitely a top 10 most popular rapper in the late '90s. unpredictable should've been no less than a double-platinum album.
the only time I ever heard mia x on the radio up here was her verse on "make em say ugh". I remember the song with foxy brown being on mtv jams countdown, but never on the radio. on the flipside, I remember mystikal getting a little bit of spins for "yall aint ready yet" back in 95-96. mystikal was well-known off that 1st album. the Jive re-release. he even performed on soul train.
destinys child was already big before the silkk video dropped.. "no no no pt 2" was all over BET, and they were hittin up MTV around this time as well.
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P saying they sold 75 millions records sold is a marketing thing? a marketing thing for what? what is that marketing thing accomplishing?
Your site and numbers are off, Dude you mentioned "It aint my fault" was far from being a big song that year, oh so you're using that site as a reference now? after you said Wiki lies, but it peaked at #15, plus I put up other information about what the song did in other categories but you flew over that and picked something to try and use your argument with smh Lol.
I told you Mia X birth'd Lil Kim's and others whole style, and you refused to believe that, and tried to downsize it Lol. I posted a clip where she's telling you what Biggie told her what he would do with HER STYLE when he got a female artist...He didn't say "oh she will make a song like that" He told her I will have her rapping the way you rap and say what you say. Big difference in what you in your mind is trying to play. Lol Lil Kim's whole style comes from Mia X
I know it hurts to find out a chick from the 7th Ward New Orleans, LA birth'd the style of one of NY biggest lady MC
It's the site that you are using for your reference and argument.
I never heard P mention anything you stated, other than he stated 75 million record. Not only P stated but others such as KLC stated it, which he is doing today in interviews, so how is KLC saying this, is a marketing thing? See you're not even making any sense but just spewing out what you think.
I couldn't care less about DMX 3 songs, do you know how many songs are in rotation on the radio? and "It aint my fault" was in rotation... the club/party song but yet it was far from being big smh..Dude stop it.
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Popular rapper, I mentioned that he was more "known" and ppl like his style more so maybe, but to say him and Mia X wasn't on the same platform is crazy. Mia X had her own following in 97-98 and I keep saying she was on one of P's biggest song..I'm Bout it Bout it.
Mia X Party Don't Stop stayed on the radio and that was the go to song in parties/clubs/lounges. "You don't wanna go to War" was the chant even though Mystikal destroyed that record, it still was heavily played on her album.
"Yall aint ready" was getting spins locally, then when Jive re-released that album, that's when that song started catching elsewhere along with Here I Go.
DC song was big, still nobody knew this group, ppl were starting to get into them, but to say that they were already known, nah, Like I stated, if that was the case, they would have done more on that Silkk's Let's be str8 with me song, Even Mya when she appeared on his song off his 3rd album had a verse she did, more than just doing a hook. I get that No No No had did it's thing and again, yall are fitting today's climate into yesterday climate.
Just because they sold 1 million records/singles, remember singles came out before the albums, ppl still didn't really know who you were or they were just catching on. 1 million/singles sold back then wasn't nothing to do. They were still considered a "new" group act.
I'm not killing my own argument. They had virtual nobodies out here with videos and huge ads in magazines
You missed the part where dude specifically said that No Limit wasn't appearing on those type of shows.
Why P won the award is irrelevant. You were saying that No Limit wasn't getting looks after they began to fall off, I provided proof that they were.
I don't have the Scarface stuff confused. The summer before The Fix, he was nominated for lyricist of the year based on Last of a Dying Breed (which dropped well within the eligibility period for that awards show) and he had notable appearances on Ryde or Die Vol. 2 and Jay's The Dynasty.
There were bigger acts in 2000 at the time when P got that cover.
In regard to the Vibe cover
- Juve had not disappeared. In fact, he'd just given CMR their biggest album since I Got That Work
- Trick Daddy was definitely bigger than Master P at that point. This was after "I'm A Thug" and "Take It To The House" and he was about to release another album.
- The South was not at a pit-stop in terms of star power. Luda was huge. Trick was near the height of his popularity. 2001 was Juve's comeback with "Set It Off".
- P wasn't really visible at the point and he wasn't the main reason the South was at that point. He was one of the reasons, but not THE reason. Mystikal was a much bigger star than Master P in 2002.