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[JustCKing]

P saying they sold 75 millions records sold is a marketing thing? a marketing thing for what? what is that marketing thing accomplishing?

Your site and numbers are off, Dude you mentioned "It aint my fault" was far from being a big song that year, oh so you're using that site as a reference now? after you said Wiki lies, but it peaked at #15, plus I put up other information about what the song did in other categories but you flew over that and picked something to try and use your argument with smh Lol.

I told you Mia X birth'd Lil Kim's and others whole style, and you refused to believe that, and tried to downsize it Lol. I posted a clip where she's telling you what Biggie told her what he would do with HER STYLE when he got a female artist...He didn't say "oh she will make a song like that" He told her I will have her rapping the way you rap and say what you say. Big difference in what you in your mind is trying to play. Lol Lil Kim's whole style comes from Mia X
I know it hurts to find out a chick from the 7th Ward New Orleans, LA birth'd the style of one of NY biggest lady MC

It's the site that you are using for your reference and argument.

I never heard P mention anything you stated, other than he stated 75 million record. Not only P stated but others such as KLC stated it, which he is doing today in interviews, so how is KLC saying this, is a marketing thing? See you're not even making any sense but just spewing out what you think.


I couldn't care less about DMX 3 songs, do you know how many songs are in rotation on the radio? and "It aint my fault" was in rotation... the club/party song but yet it was far from being big smh..Dude stop it.

75 Million Records sold and World's #1 Independent Rap label appeared on every ad and most of the commercials they put out. It was definitely marketing. Why? P didn't even know how many records No Limit had sold.

Wikipedia can be edited by anyone. There's a lot of information on Wiki that is false. Billboard, however, tracks things like sales, charts, etc. via Soundscan.

Lil' Kim's whole style didn't come from Mia X. Why would I be hurt over Mia X pioneering a style? I actually like Mia X's music.

I never said "It Ain't My Fault" wasn't in rotation, but there are 10-20 songs from '98 bigger than "It Ain't My Fault". That song wasn't even the biggest song from No Limit in '98.

 

[JustCKing]

Stars don't just sing hooks breh and not add nothing to the song.

Mary J. Blige only had a hook on Jay's "Can't Knock The Hustle". Lauryn Hill only did the hook on Common's "Retrospect for Life".

 

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I AGREE

 

[NO-BadAzz]

75 Million Records sold and World's #1 Independent Rap label appeared on every ad and most of the commercials they put out. It was definitely marketing. Why? P didn't even know how many records No Limit had sold.

Wikipedia can be edited by anyone. There's a lot of information on Wiki that is false. Billboard, however, tracks things like sales, charts, etc. via Soundscan.

Lil' Kim's whole style didn't come from Mia X. Why would I be hurt over Mia X pioneering a style? I actually like Mia X's music.

I never said "It Ain't My Fault" wasn't in rotation, but there are 10-20 songs from '98 bigger than "It Ain't My Fault". That song wasn't even the biggest song from No Limit in '98.

Breh,
So at that time NL wasn't the world's #1 Independent Rap Label? They not only put it on ADs but he said in his raps, not only did P say it, but other artists said it also going back to 97-98.

So now NL didn't sell over 75 million records it's a lie? is what you're saying How do you know P didn't know how many records NL sold, Do you even know how records were even counted in the total sales of an album 97-98?? you're again trying to fit today's time into yesterday, you do know Mom and Pop stores were not always counted into the total sales of an album.

Again, KLC did an interview recently and he stated the amount of records sold, Mo B dikk did an interview recently, Fiend and they all talk about the amount of records NL sold, these cats aint marketing nothing, so how again is that a marketing thing as you say?

I understand what Wiki can be done, but why would someone edit Mac sells, Silkk's sells etc? Why not edit for these albums to go 2 or 3x platinum? U see what you're saying doesn't even make sense breh.

The link you posted about Billboard had Master P dropping the I got the hook up soundtrack, they didn't even list the other albums that were coming out that year, so how is that an accurate site?

You mentioned that "It Aint My Fault" was far from being the biggest single out there year when every club/party/radio station/TV station was playing the song
Lil Kim's style came from Mia X, I just dropped a clip where Mia X explained to you that it did. But yet you say that it didn't, Mia X was talking/rapping bout what Lil Kim started rapping about before Kim and you sit here and say otherwise, ok breh

 

[NO-BadAzz]

Mary J. Blige only had a hook on Jay's "Can't Knock The Hustle". Lauryn Hill only did the hook on Common's "Retrospect for Life".

Start @ 1:35

MJB has a whole 8-16 bars where she's doing her thing, on top of that you can hear her harmonizing throughout the song

 

[NO-BadAzz]

Where in this song do you hear anything DC added on their own

They are just simply singing the hook, but as you say they were known and stars, Known and stars just don't sing hooks without adding something to the song breh

 

[JustCKing]

Breh,
So at that time NL wasn't the world's #1 Independent Rap Label, they not only put it on ADs but he said in his raps, not only did P say it, but other artists said it also going back to 97-98.

So now NL didn't sell over 75 million records it's a lie? is what you're saying How do you know P didn't know how many records NL sold, Do you even know how records were even counted back in 97-98?? you're again trying to fit today's time into yesterday, you do know Mom and Pop stores were counted into the total sales of an album.

Again, KLC did an interview recently and he stated the amount of records sold, Mo B dikk did an interview recently, Fiend and they all talk about the amount of records NL sold, these cats aint marketing nothing, so how again is that a marketing thing as you say?

I understand what Wiki can be done, but why would someone edit Mac sells, Silkk's sells etc? Why not edit for these albums to go 2 or 3x platinum? U see what you're saying doesn't even make sense breh.

The link you posted about Billboard had Master P dropping the I got the hook up soundtrack, they didn't even list the other albums that were coming out that year, so how is that an accurate site?

You mentioned that "It Aint My Fault" was far from being the biggest single out there year when every club/party/radio station/TV station was playing the song
Lil Kim's style came from Mia X, I just dropped a clip where Mia X explained to you that it did. But yet you say that it didn't, Mia X was talking/rapping bout what Lil Kim started rapping about before Kim and you sit here and say otherwise, ok breh

I never said it wasn't true. I said it was all a part of marketing. It's bold statements that are hard to argue against, but can't be exactly quantified either. How do I know that P didn't know how many records No Limit sold:

"When asked by an interviewer how many albums he’s sold throughout his career, P quickly replied “75 million.” When pressed, he clarified, “that’s my catalog with No Limit” before admitting that he stopped counting and is unsure of how many records were sold by the label in its entirety."----- P's own words

Master P Says He Sold 75 Million Albums On No Limit Records

People edit things for different reasons. Their reasoning is irrelevant. It doesn't change the fact that Mac didn't go Gold and that Silkk doesn't have a double platinum album.

That list I posted was a list of albums that were dropping. It was a list of songs that went #1 on the rap charts in 1998 and how many weeks they stayed there.

And no Mia X didn't birth Lil' Kim's style in it's entirety. Lil' Kim was selling sex. Mia X was talking about flipping the game on the males as in "I'm not doing x, y, z to you sexually without some type of reciprocation" and her song was also her taking on more of a pimp role, which is why I posted Kim's "Not Tonight" because that influence is in that song and possibly "We Don't Need It".

 

[JustCKing]

Where in this song do you hear anything DC added on their own

They are just simply singing the hook, but as you say they were known and stars, Known and stars just don't sing hooks without adding something to the song breh

You can't comprehend can you. I posted two examples of songs where known stars were relegated to just singing hooks and here you are going on and on about the same thing.

 

[NO-BadAzz]

I never said it wasn't true. I said it was all a part of marketing. It's bold statements that are hard to argue against, but can't be exactly quantified either. How do I know that P didn't know how many records No Limit sold:

"When asked by an interviewer how many albums he’s sold throughout his career, P quickly replied “75 million.” When pressed, he clarified, “that’s my catalog with No Limit” before admitting that he stopped counting and is unsure of how many records were sold by the label in its entirety."----- P's own words

Master P Says He Sold 75 Million Albums On No Limit Records

People edit things for different reasons. Their reasoning is irrelevant. It doesn't change the fact that Mac didn't go Gold and that Silkk doesn't have a double platinum album.

That list I posted was a list of albums that were dropping. It was a list of songs that went #1 on the rap charts in 1998 and how many weeks they stayed there.

And no Mia X didn't birth Lil' Kim's style in it's entirety. Lil' Kim was selling sex. Mia X was talking about flipping the game on the males as in "I'm not doing x, y, z to you sexually without some type of reciprocation" and her song was also her taking on more of a pimp role, which is why I posted Kim's "Not Tonight" because that influence is in that song and possibly "We Don't Need It".

According to what you stand on and your logic those albums didn't go Gold and double plat.

If P stopped counting but stated 75 million after the fact he said he stopped counting, so that should mean that 75 million isn't the mark, it's beyond 75 million records sold? So why would P pull out a number like 75? he could have said 50 or 25, He had to know something breh or a ball park mark on what his catalog looks like. So those albums that you are short changing Mac, Silk, cant put P at the 75 mark or more records breh. You just said marketing was the reason P was saying 75 million and #1 rap label (independent) but now ppl have different reasons?

Breh stop it about the Mia X thing, she broke all what you are saying down breh.

 

[NO-BadAzz]

You can't comprehend can you. I posted two examples of songs where known stars were relegated to just singing hooks and here you are going on and on about the same thing.

I posted the song with Mary and Method Man (your 1st example) and gave you a time stamp where she is not only singing the hook but she has added her own part, You can't comprehend the details. She's also harmonizing throughout the song.


DC just "ONLY" sung the hook on Silkk's song and you mentioned that they were stars/known,

Stars/Known folks just don't simple sing on a hook and not have a shinning moment in a song.

I just broke down both of your 2 examples (wow only 2 at that)

 

[NO-BadAzz]

@3:56

Lauryn Hill not only sings the hook but she has added her own part, she shines on the song (has her own part)

That's what known/stars do on songs breh, They just don't simply sing a hook like what DC did on Silkk's song.

DC had no shinning moment. They were not known/stars as I stated.

 

[JustCKing]

According to what you stand on and your logic those albums didn't go Gold and double plat.

If P stopped counting but stated 75 million after the fact he said he stopped counting, so that should mean that 75 million isn't the mark, it's beyond 75 million records sold? So why would P pull out a number like 75? he could have said 50 or 25, He had to know something breh or a ball park mark on what his catalog looks like. So those albums that you are short changing Mac, Silk, cant put P at the 75 mark or more records breh. You just said marketing was the reason P was saying 75 million and #1 rap label (independent) but now ppl have different reasons?

Breh stop it about the Mia X thing, she broke all what you are saying down breh.

Show me proof that those albums went Gold and Platinum. There's an RIAA database where you can find Gold and Plat. certifications for any album. Therefore it's laughable that you'd even argue a Wiki article against the association that certifies albums.

In terms of No Limit selling 75 million records, it could very well be 75. It could be 80-100. It could be 50.

 

[JustCKing]

@3:56

Lauryn Hill not only sings the hook but she has added her own part, she shines on the song (has her own part)

That's what known/stars do on songs breh, They just don't simply sing a hook like what DC did on Silkk's song.

DC had no shinning moment. They were not known/stars as I stated.

What you are referring to are ad-libs. That has nothing to do with star power. It's not verse and it's not a bridge.

 

[NO-BadAzz]

Show me proof that those albums went Gold and Platinum. There's an RIAA database where you can find Gold and Plat. certifications for any album. Therefore it's laughable that you'd even argue a Wiki article against the association that certifies albums.

In terms of No Limit selling 75 million records, it could very well be 75. It could be 80-100. It could be 50.

Smh You are going by a RIAA database, I'm going by the terms and standards how things were done. I just explained to you that Mom and Pop stores (they are not around today) but those CDs were not counted into total sales breh. Mom and Pop stores would sell out of NL CDs.

If we are going by RIAA database like you said, Let's total up all of NL albums and see if it's 75 million, it should be wayyyyyy short of that number..maybe hitting the 23 mark

23 and 75 are night and day, so why is P reaching for 75?

 

[NO-BadAzz]

What you are referring to are ad-libs. That has nothing to do with star power. It's not verse and it's not a bridge.

From 3:56 throughout the end of that song his her doing her thang. It's not a verse?

On that Silk song, Did DC get that time to do their own thing?? That just simply song the hook and Beyonce is a singer