Trojan 24
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LeGBT throughout this whole thread
The gap between MJ and Lebron is a HOF career
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And Jordan's wasn't?Or how the East was ECW status for most of LeBron’s championship runs
Bron already had more MVPs than Kobe in 2011. Most ranked him higher than Kobe.
HandyWithTheSteel
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Jordan played against trash competition tho.
Put Lebron in the 80s being guarded by skinny midget guards in booty shorts and he’s putting up Wilt numbers.
Put Lebron in the 80s being guarded by skinny midget guards in booty shorts and he’s putting up Wilt numbers.
Peruvian Connect
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no he wouldn't. he wouldn't be allowed to hold the ball as much
Ozymandeas
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And Jordan's wasn't?
Bron already had more MVPs than Kobe in 2011. Most ranked him higher than Kobe.
Kobe was coming off three Finals appearances in 2011. Stop eating your girlfriends birth control pills.
murksiderock
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nikka took this incomplete, unpolished take from Kevin Wilds and ran wild with it hahaha...
Off resume sure, the gap between Bron and Mike is a HOF-player. Dudes in here saying "that's a Top 5 player ever resume", no it most closely resembles Willis Reed's resume---->who is still regarded as a Top 50 GOAT but the gap between Mike and LeBron is not a player the caliber of LeBron himself, get the fukk outta here....
Also you dudes gotta stop gassing scoring titles. Nobody has won over 5 besides Wilt, who never won the chip any of the years he won it, and Mike, who didn't win the chip in 4 of the years he won it. The scoring champ hasn't won the chip since '00 Shaq, which was 22 years ago for you math-deficient nikkas who pretend 2000 was 3 years ago...
The list of players who have won a scoring title and never a championship is lengthy, start with Westbrook and work your way backwards...
So along with other things, the premise of this take was retarded to start with. No one is winning 9 fukking scoring titles, and winning only 2 chips with those scoring titles highlights the irrelevance of the scoring title anyway. Being the scoring champion isn't the hallmark if an All-Time pantheon GOAT. Mike won 10 for the same reason Russell won 11 actual NBA championships, that shyt was right place right time and will never be replicated but isn't indicative of no one else being as great within their own eras...
This is false, the avalanche of "Top 75" lists that just dropped the last 5 months had an average ranking of Mike at 1.13, Bron 2.13, Kareem 3.25, Magic 4.63. To most people the gap between Mike and Bron is marginal and closer than the gap between Bron and Kareem, though the gap between Bron and Kareem is also closer than the gap between Kareem and Magic...
First of all, because no one has this exact resume you aren't gonna find a 1:1 comp. But this is most closely Willis Reed's resume. All-Defensive Teams didn't even exist his first 4 seasons so he's missing a couple, and no one gives a fukk about slam dunk titles lmao...
The minimum career span of a Top 10 GOAT is 13 years (Magic, Bird). So a guy has this blind resume, he'd have to at least play 13 years. This isn't a Top 10 resume but it's certainly a Top 50 one...
Also very convenient how accolades that would benefit LeBron are left off this blind resume: 1 more assist title, 3 more conference finals appearances, 3 more 1st Team All-NBAs, 4 more Finals appearances, 4 more All-Stars, 6 more All-NBAs...
And you can't say "longevity" helps Bron in this argument because he had more ECF appearances (10 vs Mike's 8), more 1st Team All-NBAs (12 vs 10), more Finals appearances (9 vs 6), and more total All-NBAs (14 vs 11) thru 15 years, which was Mike's total career...
If you want to narrow it to Mike's 13-year Chicago career vs 2003-16 Bron, LeBron and Mike had the same ECF berths (8), the same 1st Team All-NBAs (10), more Finals appearances thru 13 years (7 vs 6), the same All-Star appearances (12), and more All-NBAs total (12 vs 11). I'm the same amount of time the only relevant thing that separates them are 1 MVP, which is widely acknowledged Bron should have another one, and 3 championships, except one guy faced the Spurs and Warriors in 6 consecutive Finals, 7 Finals total, and the other one didn't...
Scoring titles are not a benchmark accolade and at any rate Bron has proven to be a GOAT scorer. And it's widely acknowledged Bron was a greater defender than Mike, and that Bron, a 2x runner-up for DPOY, should have at least one, with '13 most often pointed to as the DPOY he shoulda won...
He played in a more balanced and talented league, this take you stole was dumb to start with but it's clear the only real difference between them is Mike doesn't have an '11 Finals performance...
100 grand...
Off resume sure, the gap between Bron and Mike is a HOF-player. Dudes in here saying "that's a Top 5 player ever resume", no it most closely resembles Willis Reed's resume---->who is still regarded as a Top 50 GOAT but the gap between Mike and LeBron is not a player the caliber of LeBron himself, get the fukk outta here....
Also you dudes gotta stop gassing scoring titles. Nobody has won over 5 besides Wilt, who never won the chip any of the years he won it, and Mike, who didn't win the chip in 4 of the years he won it. The scoring champ hasn't won the chip since '00 Shaq, which was 22 years ago for you math-deficient nikkas who pretend 2000 was 3 years ago...
The list of players who have won a scoring title and never a championship is lengthy, start with Westbrook and work your way backwards...
So along with other things, the premise of this take was retarded to start with. No one is winning 9 fukking scoring titles, and winning only 2 chips with those scoring titles highlights the irrelevance of the scoring title anyway. Being the scoring champion isn't the hallmark if an All-Time pantheon GOAT. Mike won 10 for the same reason Russell won 11 actual NBA championships, that shyt was right place right time and will never be replicated but isn't indicative of no one else being as great within their own eras...
This is false, the avalanche of "Top 75" lists that just dropped the last 5 months had an average ranking of Mike at 1.13, Bron 2.13, Kareem 3.25, Magic 4.63. To most people the gap between Mike and Bron is marginal and closer than the gap between Bron and Kareem, though the gap between Bron and Kareem is also closer than the gap between Kareem and Magic...
2 rings
2 finals maps
1 dpoy
1 mvp
4 defensive first teams
9 scoring titles
3 steals titles
1 slam dunk title
If someone had this resume they would be a first ballot hall of famer and top 10-15 all time player.
First of all, because no one has this exact resume you aren't gonna find a 1:1 comp. But this is most closely Willis Reed's resume. All-Defensive Teams didn't even exist his first 4 seasons so he's missing a couple, and no one gives a fukk about slam dunk titles lmao...
The minimum career span of a Top 10 GOAT is 13 years (Magic, Bird). So a guy has this blind resume, he'd have to at least play 13 years. This isn't a Top 10 resume but it's certainly a Top 50 one...
Also very convenient how accolades that would benefit LeBron are left off this blind resume: 1 more assist title, 3 more conference finals appearances, 3 more 1st Team All-NBAs, 4 more Finals appearances, 4 more All-Stars, 6 more All-NBAs...
And you can't say "longevity" helps Bron in this argument because he had more ECF appearances (10 vs Mike's 8), more 1st Team All-NBAs (12 vs 10), more Finals appearances (9 vs 6), and more total All-NBAs (14 vs 11) thru 15 years, which was Mike's total career...
If you want to narrow it to Mike's 13-year Chicago career vs 2003-16 Bron, LeBron and Mike had the same ECF berths (8), the same 1st Team All-NBAs (10), more Finals appearances thru 13 years (7 vs 6), the same All-Star appearances (12), and more All-NBAs total (12 vs 11). I'm the same amount of time the only relevant thing that separates them are 1 MVP, which is widely acknowledged Bron should have another one, and 3 championships, except one guy faced the Spurs and Warriors in 6 consecutive Finals, 7 Finals total, and the other one didn't...
Scoring titles are not a benchmark accolade and at any rate Bron has proven to be a GOAT scorer. And it's widely acknowledged Bron was a greater defender than Mike, and that Bron, a 2x runner-up for DPOY, should have at least one, with '13 most often pointed to as the DPOY he shoulda won...
He played in a more balanced and talented league, this take you stole was dumb to start with but it's clear the only real difference between them is Mike doesn't have an '11 Finals performance...
100 grand...
Typing out whole dissertations to still get theLeGBT throughout this whole thread
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itsyoung!!
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CP3 and James Harden better than Barkley and Karl Malone ? They should permanently ban you from this sub forum for this fukking post
top 5 worst posts this forum has ever seen
viktordoomsecretwars
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Its good to know that according to Lebron James fan @murksiderock ,
Lebron James is "widely considered to be a greater defender than Mike". And by "widely", I think that's you, ISO , Nick Wright and who else?
You didnt watch Jordan to type that out with a straight face. You're grasping at straws and this is you:
Your argument is Lebron finished twice as a runner up for DPOTY . Really? How many times did Jordan finish in the top 2? How many times did Jordan win the DPOTY? How many all defensive 1st teams does Lebron have having played many more games than Jordan?
And look at who both players were competing against for the DPOTY award. Further proof the more talented league stuff is a bunch of nonsense
Lebron is not even a better defender than Kobe.
Lebron James is "widely considered to be a greater defender than Mike". And by "widely", I think that's you, ISO , Nick Wright and who else?
You didnt watch Jordan to type that out with a straight face. You're grasping at straws and this is you:
Your argument is Lebron finished twice as a runner up for DPOTY . Really? How many times did Jordan finish in the top 2? How many times did Jordan win the DPOTY? How many all defensive 1st teams does Lebron have having played many more games than Jordan?
And look at who both players were competing against for the DPOTY award. Further proof the more talented league stuff is a bunch of nonsense
Lebron is not even a better defender than Kobe.
I see they didnt like this one 
fifth column
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You Kobe coming off 3 straight trips to the finals and back to back chipsAnd Jordan's wasn't?
Bron already had more MVPs than Kobe in 2011. Most ranked him higher than Kobe.
Field Marshall Bradley
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So basically you don't understand how the expansion watered down the league....
Field Marshall Bradley
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fifth column
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Can I see some receipts bruv
