The gap between MJ and Lebron is a HOF career

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Kinda funny that MJ has that much of a lead in terms of accolades over LeBron, and he's STILL universally thought of as being only marginally better, with quite a few people having it as a 1A, 1B type situation:wow:.

Just let's me know that Bron is just better.
This is one of those head in the sand Bron stan post.
 

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Bruh……. Your channel of highlights won’t make your case…. You would had to have witnesses that era of the NBA…..

This post proves my point…. He was not a specialist and was getting nods in an era where big men had the most defensive impact and he was making all defensive teams when he wasn’t even the best defensive guard on his team if I remember correctly
Who was a better defensive guard on his team?
 

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Ron Harper was a better defender than Jordan on some of those 1st team all D squads when Ron was with the clippers… Randy Brown defensive prowess during his Bulls run >> than a 30 plus year old Jordan, but I think Jordan was still making All D squads still….
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Ron Harper was a better defender than Jordan on some of those 1st team all D squads when Ron was with the clippers… Randy Brown defensive prowess during his Bulls run >> than a 30 plus year old Jordan, but I think Jordan was still making All D squads still….
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Never been anyone this good for this long

1. MJ:mjlit:
2. Bron:gladbron:

Rest of the list doesn’t fukking matter:umad:
 

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I’m not knocking Lebron’s “when he feels engaged” lazy defensive style but unequivocally “NO” he is not a better defender than MJ.
Why do you people act like MJ and Kobe were 100% engaged defenders their entire careers?

The way people talk about Bron defense nowadays is ridiculous. 37 years old with 60,000 minutes playing playing center but still expected to be a lockdown defender. He plays on a terrible defensive team that lacks wings and bigs. The guy is still a playmaker on defense.
 

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He’s not smoking crack.

The ‘lytics also support Harper and Brown being the better defenders in ‘96 as they should have they were specialist. The Bulls overall were a stout defensive team.

Let y’all tell it MJ was a lockdown demon all 48 minutes no one could ever score on who also gobbled up every steal that came his way while dropping 30 a game.
 
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Anyone who thinks Kobe is a better overall defender than LeBron doesn’t know shyt about basketball or evaluating defense.

LeBron off sheer versatility alone of positions and play types he can guard is better.

LeBron is still one of the top defensive playmakers in the game based on his charges drawn and stocks (steals+blocks) this season. Kobe was terrible defensively his last years in the league.

Both in their primes LeBron clearly peaked higher as a multi time DPoY runner-up and a defensive anchor type player as a wing.
 

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Why do you people act like MJ and Kobe were 100% engaged defenders their entire careers?

The way people talk about Bron defense nowadays is ridiculous. 37 years old with 60,000 minutes playing playing center but still expected to be a lockdown defender. He plays on a terrible defensive team that lacks wings and bigs. The guy is still a playmaker on defense.
Bron been on that for a min now, not just this year
 

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Bron been on that for a min now, not just this year
Jordan and Kobe were both being hid and taking plays off in the latter part of their careers.

Even Kawhi Leonard’s defensive workload dropped off considerably once he became a dominant scorer and after his injuries.

Why is this magnified with LeBron.
 

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Jordan and Kobe were both being hid and taking plays off in the latter part of their careers.

Even Kawhi Leonard’s defensive workload dropped off considerably once he became a dominant scorer and after his injuries.

Why is this magnified with LeBron.
I never argued that Bron is not a good defender, I said MJ was a better defender than him. When Bron is engaged he is very impactful on that end.
 
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