"The FLASH" Season 3, official thread

[Carlton Banks]

Rewatched and skimmed certain episodes. To give a more condensed version of my theory...

Savitar = Future Flash. Still unsure of which timeline this future flash is from. I realized the first flash that saved his younger self from reverse flash can't be the one from 2056 cuz that would make Barry old as fukk

The timeline we're watching now is a combination of flashpoint and post flashpoint. First episode reverse flash told Barry that flashpoint was overwriting the past timeline which is why Barry was losing his memory. Again, in flashpoint Barry was never struck by lightning and grew up in the West house so he wasn't supposed to have those memories or speed in this timeline, but he still did. This is why using his speed was erasing his memory. It was the speedforce course correcting itself and taking away the powers that they never granted Barry in this timeline. These two alternative timelines (flashpoint and post flashpoint) A) should've never been created and B) were created by Barry. Savitar (God of Speed) is trying to A) fix what Barry ruined by using Alchemy to give ppl who had powers in flashpoint their powers back and B) kill Barry once he's able to, to course correct the timeline once and for all.

Which still leaves the question as to which future flash is Savitar. At this point it can be Barry from any timeline. I have a hunch that it could be the 2024 flash that's on the newspaper that went missing.

 

[Malcolm Chance]

 

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[Dillah810]

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[Faneto4]

Just to add, Barry was present when reverb told Cisco he could've been a god. Yeah, that pretty much gives it away. Savitar is future Barry.

My theory is when Barry created flashpoint, that timeline was essentially flawed. When he saved his mom, the other version of himself in the room that was erased was shaking his head 'no' because that version of himself was the one from 2056 and knew the repercussions, in theory.

So 2056 Barry didn't create flashpoint. In the message to the legends he was referring to the past version of him we saw that saved his mother as the one that created flashpoint. And although we saw 2056 Barry get erased after his mother was saved, he might not have actually been erased but that might've became the moment he got trapped in the speedforce. 2056 Barry was there to try to keep the timeline in tact before his past self created flashpoint. Remember originally Barry was trying to save the young 10 year old him from reverse flash. It was never about saving his mom because that was not reverse flashes original plan. Reverse flash only killed his mom when he failed to kill young Barry. So 2056 Barry was aware that his mom had to die and only had intentions of saving his young self. When other Barry intervened, 2056 Barry along with his timeline was essentially erased from existence, unless he was able to return to that timeline as a time remnant, but in theory that sounds way too confusing. So let's just assume that it was erased.

So flashpoint Barry saved his mom and fast forwards to his present and still had powers even though he was never struck by lightning in this timeline and has all these memories that he shouldn't have. That's why every time he used his speed his memories would get erased, because he's NOT supposed to have those memories or speed in this timeline. That was the speedforce trying to course correct what Barry interfered with. So when he goes back in time again to fix things again after Wally died, the timeline had to be course corrected once again by giving everyone who had powers in flashpoint their powers back. Savitar is aware of this and sends alchemy to do so. But also remember, post flashpoint was never even supposed to be its own timeline to begin with, which explains why some people who didn't have powers in flashpoint suddenly have them and remembered the flashpoint timeline just like Barry did. We're basically seeing two timelines that weren't supposed to exist to begin with (flashpoint/post flashpoint) being fused together which is why things are so messy. So in the midst of all this, savitar (future flash) is trying to kill his past self because he's responsible for all of this mess. Which explains why he said that Barry is the most evil person there. He views his past self as selfish because he was when he created flashpoint.

Lastly, savitar calls himself the god of speed and the first man granted speed because he's been trapped in the speedforce for what's felt like an eternity to him to the point that time has no beginning, middle or end because he's essentially been stuck in time.

Damn bro u dropping gems

 

[Atsym Sknyfs]

Another theory on if savitar is Eobard (although I believe he's Barry)
Since in Legions of Tomorrow the LOD assembles the Spear and Eobard uses it to rewrite reality... what if he's the one that actually changed whatever reality savitar was living in

 

[Spades Of Aces]

Another theory on if savitar is Eobard (although I believe he's Barry)
Since in Legions of Tomorrow the LOD assembles the Spear and Eobard uses it to rewrite reality... what if he's the one that actually changed whatever reality savitar was living in

Hmm...that is assuming that he'll have the chance to do it. On top of that, he has to worry about the Black Flash catching up to him.

 

[Mensch Fontana]

Think savitar is this time lines barry just from the future

 

[Atsym Sknyfs]

Hmm...that is assuming that he'll have the chance to do it. On top of that, he has to worry about the Black Flash catching up to him.

according to the next to last episode titled "doomsworld" they do it but then they have to destroy it for some reason..

but i doubt the creators will have the finales cross shows

 

[tru_m.a.c]

Just came in to say Gypsy is bad as fukk.

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[Spades Of Aces]

according to the next to last episode titled "doomsworld" they do it but then they have to destroy it for some reason..

but i doubt the creators will have the finales cross shows

Ah okay. I'm thinking at some point it has to merge: Eobard learning about Savitar and The Flash learning about The Black Flash.

 

[FAH1223]

Just to add, Barry was present when reverb told Cisco he could've been a god. Yeah, that pretty much gives it away. Savitar is future Barry.

My theory is when Barry created flashpoint, that timeline was essentially flawed. When he saved his mom, the other version of himself in the room that was erased was shaking his head 'no' because that version of himself was the one from 2056 and knew the repercussions, in theory.

So 2056 Barry didn't create flashpoint. In the message to the legends he was referring to the past version of him we saw that saved his mother as the one that created flashpoint. And although we saw 2056 Barry get erased after his mother was saved, he might not have actually been erased but that might've became the moment he got trapped in the speedforce. 2056 Barry was there to try to keep the timeline in tact before his past self created flashpoint. Remember originally Barry was trying to save the young 10 year old him from reverse flash. It was never about saving his mom because that was not reverse flashes original plan. Reverse flash only killed his mom when he failed to kill young Barry. So 2056 Barry was aware that his mom had to die and only had intentions of saving his young self. When other Barry intervened, 2056 Barry along with his timeline was essentially erased from existence, unless he was able to return to that timeline as a time remnant, but in theory that sounds way too confusing. So let's just assume that it was erased.

So flashpoint Barry saved his mom and fast forwards to his present and still had powers even though he was never struck by lightning in this timeline and has all these memories that he shouldn't have. That's why every time he used his speed his memories would get erased, because he's NOT supposed to have those memories or speed in this timeline. That was the speedforce trying to course correct what Barry interfered with. So when he goes back in time again to fix things again after Wally died, the timeline had to be course corrected once again by giving everyone who had powers in flashpoint their powers back. Savitar is aware of this and sends alchemy to do so. But also remember, post flashpoint was never even supposed to be its own timeline to begin with, which explains why some people who didn't have powers in flashpoint suddenly have them and remembered the flashpoint timeline just like Barry did. We're basically seeing two timelines that weren't supposed to exist to begin with (flashpoint/post flashpoint) being fused together which is why things are so messy. So in the midst of all this, savitar (future flash) is trying to kill his past self because he's responsible for all of this mess. Which explains why he said that Barry is the most evil person there. He views his past self as selfish because he was when he created flashpoint.

Lastly, savitar calls himself the god of speed and the first man granted speed because he's been trapped in the speedforce for what's felt like an eternity to him to the point that time has no beginning, middle or end because he's essentially been stuck in time.

Yup. Savitar is definitely future Barry. I also think its the 2024 version that went missing.

 

[Carlton Banks]

Another possibility is Savitar could be Jay Garrick Earth 3 Flash. He knew a lot about Savitar and when Barry asked him how he said "speed force myths, rumors, etc"

Like nikkas just be in the speedforce having brunch and latte's talking about multiverse politics

"So how about that Savitar? I hear he's something else "

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Also Jay said he was keeping a close eye on Barry. How is that even possible from a different Earth?