Saw this thread last night and it wasaround 8 pages deep yesterday.Why the hell is this thread so damn long?
Woke up this morning and logged on it was 45 pages deep
"The Earth is flat" - Kyrie Irving
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Does he explain how physics wouldn't work if the earth was flat opposed to circular?
Does he explain that the earth's gravitational pull would be all kinds of fukked if it was flat opposed to circular and the Moon wouldn't gravitate around us the way it does if the Earth was flat?
If you want to bring up scientists why is it that the majority agree on the earth is circular opposed to flat? Are they all collectively lying to us and keeping it a secret with literally no one coming out with the real facts?
Nah breh, I did general sciences for years, Earth being flat would break way too many rules/laws that are physics are based on.
The video is long for reason he breaks down all that, they just making shyt up, they got real arguments lmao, they have an explanations for everything
if refuse to watch stop asking me, all I said I was can't prove their wrong neither can you
Why don't watch it, I tired of this back and forth
he's an actual scientist you're not
It was so easy to prove, you wouldn't be asking me this questions YOU WOULD BE TELLING ME ANSWERS
When arguing against the heliocentric model vs geocentric model the shape of other planets is irrelevant
What does either have to do with the flat earth theory?
#showyourignorance
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Eternal Tecate
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the earth is hollow plebs
Question for you breh, can you see the same star 24 hours straight from the same position on earth?
I mean if I could always see the stars, why would I need a locator for specific constellations? Why can't you see the sun at night breh? I mean the earth is flat right? I should always be able to see the sun, and always be able to see Orion, or Gemini, etc etc. Why is it that I can see a lunar eclipse from almost any part of the world, but a solar eclipse from only a few specific points? 
@Master Teacher just got back from the gym. You ready to talk centrifugal force and orbits around a flat plane or nah
Eternal Tecate
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literally everything is this shape
Absolut
Legal Bookie
is the sky blue? prove it
Sure I can. Earth has a gravitational pull due to its heavy mass, and thus objects orbit around it.
The orbit pathway around the Earth is circular. The moon orbits the earth as if the earth was a circular surface, not a flat one. You don't need to EVER see the earth to follow the moon's path around the earth. I'm sure even you can agree with that.
Objects get pulled in like this:
Objects with a far smaller mass get pulled in towards the center mass of the object with a greater mass.
They then orbit around the object like this:
The moon orbits the Earth in a similar fashion that the earth, and other planets in our solar system, orbit the Sun. Why? Because both the Earth and the Sun are fukking circular:
Is this not satisfactory to you? I relied on an argument that doesn't involve ever having to see the earth or how it looks to show that it can't be round otherwise our moon wouldn't take the path it does around the earth.
breh i know all about the orientation of the giza pyramids to mimic the stars in orion's belt... how the shadows during the solstice reveals 8 sides etc. They were brilliant astronomers but they were not all knowing. That was my piont. Why do you believe they had nothing more to learn?
fukk kyrie for this thread being a thread
That's not enough proof in my eyes. Unless I can go into so called outer space myself to prove it, I don't know what I'm living on. I just know that I'm here. Anything else is just hear say.
Why does everybody assume knowledge got stagnant in Egypt?!
Eratosthenes got the idea the world was round IN ALEXANDRIA FROM AN EGYPTIAN MANUSCRIPT!!!!!Who Discovered The Earth is Round?
One of the most enduring myths that children grow up with is the idea that Columbus was the only one of his time who believed that the Earth was round; everyone else believed it was flat. “How brave the sailors of 1492 must have been,” you might imagine, “to travel towards the edge of the world without fear of falling off!”
Indeed, there are many ancient references to the Earth being shaped like a disc. And if you knew only of the two most important astronomical objects in the sky — the Sun and the Moon — you yourself might reach the same conclusions.
If you go outside during sunset a day or two after the new moon, here’s the sight you’re likely to encounter.
Image credit: Doug Zubenel.
A thin sliver of Moon, where the illuminated portion appears to coincide with the same portion of a sphere that could be lit up by the Sun.
If you were both curious and scientifically-minded, you might go out after sunset during the next few days to see what happened next. In fact, if you were to go outside and look towards the southwest skies (assuming you, like me, live in the Northern hemisphere) during the coming days of September 29th to October 3rd, at sunset (~6:30 PM) each night, you’d notice something changing about the Moon.
Image generated by me, using the free software stellarium.
Not only does it appear to shift position by about 12 degrees each night, moving farther away from the Sun, but it appears that progressively more and more of it gets illuminated! And you would (rightly) conclude that perhaps the Moon orbits the Earth, and that its apparent change in phase is caused by light from the Sun illuminating different parts of a spherically-shaped Moon.
In fact, this is both the ancient and modern view of what causes the phases of the Moon.
Image credit: MoonConnection.com.
But about twice a year, something special happens during the Full Moon that allows us to determine something about the shape of the Earth: a lunar eclipse! When the Moon is full and the Earth passes directly between the Sun and the Moon, the Earth’s shadow shows up on the Moon’s surface!
And if you look at the shadow that actually shows up on the surface of the Moon, you can clearly see that the Earth’s shadow is curved, and shaped like a disc!
Image credit: Micor Dimaguila.
But this doesn’t tell you whether the Earth is a flat disc or a round sphere; it only tells you that the shadow cast by the Earth is circular. In principle, just from looking at the Moon, the Earth could be either flat or round.
Image credit: Randy Russell.
But contrary to popular belief, this question wasn’t settled in the 1400s and 1500s (with Magellan’s circumnavigation of the globe), but more than 2,000 years ago, in the ancient world! And what’s perhaps most amazing? It was done using nothing more than the Sun. Here’s how.
Image credit: Danilo Pivato.
If you follow the Sun’s path through the daytime sky, and you live in the Northern hemisphere, you’ll find that it rises in the eastern part of the sky, rises up to its apex in the south, and then lowers and sets in the west. And it does this every day of the year.
But it doesn’t take the exact same path every day out of the year; the Sun reaches a much higher point (and shines for more hours during the day) during the summer months, and reaches a significantly lower point (and shines for fewer hours) during the winter. To dramatically illustrate this, here’s a time-lapse photo of the Sun’s path through the sky taken during the winter solstice in Fairbanks, Alaska.
Image credit: Charles Mason.
In fact, if you charted out the Sun’s path through the daytime sky, you would find that it takes its lowest path (for the fewest number of hours) on the Winter Solstice — usually December 21st — and its highest path (for the greatest number of hours) on the Summer Solstice, usually June 21st.
If you constructed a camera capable of photographing the Sun’s path through the sky over the course of the year, you would find exactly this: a series of arcs, where the highest, longest arc through the sky was made during the Summer Solstice and the lowest, shortest arc was made during the Winter Solstice.
Image credit: High School Physics Teacher Mr. Mallon.
And in the ancient world, the greatest scholars and scientists from Egypt, Greece, and all over the Mediterranean went to work at the Library of Alexandria. One of these scientists was the Ancient Greek Astronomer, Eratosthenes of Cyrene.
While living in Alexandria, Eratosthenes received some amazing correspondence from the city of Syene in southern Egypt. In particular, it said that, on the Summer Solstice,
the shadow of someone looking down a deep well would block the reflection of the Sun at noon.
In other words, the Sun would be directly overhead at this time, not a single degree to the South, North, East or West. And if you had a completely vertical object, it would cast absolutely no shadow.
Image credit: B. A. Perara.
But Eratosthenes knew that this wasn’t the case where he was, in Alexandria. Sure, the Sun came closer to being directly overhead at Noon on the Summer Solstice in Alexandria than at any other time during the year, but vertical objects still cast shadows.
And — like any good scientist — Eratosthenes did the experiment. By measuring the length of the shadow cast by a vertical stick during the solstice noon, he could figure out what angle the Sun made with the vertical direction at Alexandria.
And the answer he got was one-fiftieth of a circle, or 7.2 degrees. But at this time, in Syene, the angle the Sun was making with an identical vertical stick was zero degrees! What could be causing this? In perhaps a stroke of genius, Eratosthenes realized that the Sun’s rays could all be parallel, and that the Earth could be curved!
If he could then figure out the distance from Alexandria to Syene, since he knew the angular difference between the two cities, he could figure out the circumference of the Earth! If only Eratosthenes had a grad student, he could have sent one to make the trip, and measure the distance!
Instead, he was forced to rely on the reported distance between the two cities. The most “precise” measurement of his day?
Image credit: Memphis Tours.
Travel-by-camel. (So I can understand criticisms of his accuracy.) Nevertheless, his results were that the distance between Syene and Alexandria were 5,000 stadia. The question, of course, is how big is a stadium? The answer depends, of course, on whether Eratosthenes, a Greek living in Egypt, was using an Attic stadium or an Egyptian stadium, something still debated among historians. An Attic stadium was used more commonly, and is 185 meters in modern terms. Using this value, one gets a circumference of the Earth of 46,620 kilometers, a number that’s only about 16% bigger than the actual value.
However, an Egyptian stadium is 157.5 meters, and it’s conceivable that’s what Eratosthenes meant. In that case, we get a value of 39,375 kilometers, which is off by less than 2% from the modern value of 40,041 km!
Image credit: E. H. Bunbury.
Regardless of what the actual values were, Eratosthenes went on to become the world’s first geographer, inventing the concepts of latitude and longitude that we still use today, and constructed the first models and maps based on a spherical Earth.
Although many things were “lost” during the subsequent millenium, neither the idea of a spherical Earth nor the rough knowledge of the Earth’s circumference were one of them. In fact, anyone can perform this same experiment today with two locations at the same longitude, and with simultaneous measurements of shadow lengths, you too can measure the circumference of the Earth! Not bad, considering that the first direct, photographic evidence of the Earth’s curvature would not arrive until 1946!
Image credit: U.S. Military, White Sands Naval Base, New Mexico.
Once we knew the shape and size of the Earth — from about 240 B.C. — we were able to figure out all sorts of remarkable things, including the size of and distance to the Moon! So give the credit where credit is due, to Eratosthenes, for discovering the Earth was round, and performing the first accurate calculation of its size!
If there’s anything Columbus should be known for, as respects the size and shape of the Earth, it was using unrealistically low numbers for the circumference of the Earth! His estimates, that he used to convince others that one could sail from Europe directly to India (were the Americas non-existant), were absurdly small! Had the Americas not existed, he and his crew surely would have starved before reaching Asia!
Stanley Kubric alluded to it and blew nikka's minds lol