The Dems Do Nothing; A Never Ending Thread

[Secure Da Bag]

Biden isn't Black.

Plus Bernie would only have a caucus in the House which is a small minority in Dem party. And virtually none in the Senate. So what legislation do you expect him to pass?

 

[DirtyD]

I'm willing to give the Dems enough Senators to get 53 votes so we don't have to deal with the Sinema/Manchin bullshyt. But if they still can't get their caucus -- not the GOP, the Dem caucus-- to do shyt, then we really gonna have to find another way.

I'd rather have lukewarm legislation then whatever the GOP is handing out. But politicians should never be this ineffective.

Vote in your local elections, breh and brehettes.

The thing is Manchin and Sinema aren’t the only problems.

Mark Kelly is undecided. Jon Tester likes a talking filibuster but is “not crazy” about making an exception for elections reform. And Jeanne Shaheen is promoting more modest changes.

Dems' filibuster conundrum: It's not just Manchin and Sinema

I mention that recent letter by way of expressing zero surprise at the revelation by the Daily Beast’s Sam Brodey that there are other Democrats who partially (or perhaps wholly) share Joe Manchin’s high-profile opposition to filibuster reform but are “hiding behind” him as a sort of designated flak-catcher. Some, like Sinema, are in plain view. Others, like Diane Feinstein of California, Maggie Hasan of New Hampshire, Catherine Cortez Masto of Nevada, and Sinema’s Arizona colleague Mark Kelly, have been ambivalent about it.

Joe Manchin’s Silent Partners in the Senate

 

[get these nets]

Kneecap them with what they want passed. Kill any funding they want. I'm sure there's other ways too. Manchin and sinema have things they want. Take them away.

I hear you.
But those are pressure applying methods used before you threaten to withhold re-election resources.

Political reality usually means that they will fold under that pressure, but these two seem to be exceptions.

 

[Icewatermetallik]

You guys don't get it......if you pass legislation to end the filibuster in the Senate it might be good RIGHT NOW for Dems and Progressives bc they can pass more radical legislation for the next year or two, but when a Republican president is elected again in 2024 (you know it's going to happen, whether Trump runs again or it's someone like Desantis bc ppl know now that Biden sucks and Harris is even worse in the polls) then you are going to have a Republican president and likely a Republican congress from 2024-2028 running amok and doing whatever the F*ck they want.

Y'all need to think towards the future, and not just the here and now.

I wanted Bernie as much as the next millenial/ Gen Z voter, but then y'all centrist/ moderate Dems went ahead and voted for/ picked another 80 year old white racist with clear cut dementia in the primaries who put more blacks and minorites in jail with that 1994 legislation than most ppl think. Good job.

Sorry but y'all reap what you sow....can't go back now. When the Republicans take over Congress in the midterms, then you are going to have a lame duck President for 2 more years and then i'm sorry to say there is going to be a red wave in 2022 and 2024.

Because the Dems have looked inept and incompetent with everything from the Covid response and testing, the vaccine mandate shyt, the inept and incompetent pullout from Afghanistan, the supply chain crisis, inflation, and the way they are hanging Kamala out to dry in the media.

Honestly tell me one thing this administration has done right in the last year and a half? Nothing.

I personally know MAD people who voted for Biden/ Dem just bc they didn't like Trump, but not really bc they liked Biden, but now they regret that vote and most of them say they are voting red in 2022 and 2024.

 

[Pressure]

alias babble...

None of that matters. The function of the senate is broken. Legislation needs to come up for votes and pass or fail based on the margins.

 

[Controversy]

You guys don't get it......if you pass legislation to end the filibuster in the Senate it might be good RIGHT NOW for Dems and Progressives bc they can pass more radical legislation for the next year or two, but when a Republican president is elected again in 2024 (you know it's going to happen, whether Trump runs again or it's someone like Desantis bc ppl know now that Biden sucks and Harris is even worse in the polls) then you are going to have a Republican president and likely a Republican congress from 2024-2028 running amok and doing whatever the F*ck they want.

Y'all need to think towards the future, and not just the here and now.

I wanted Bernie as much as the next millenial/ Gen Z voter, but then y'all centrist/ moderate Dems went ahead and voted for/ picked another 80 year old white racist with clear cut dementia in the primaries who put more blacks and minorites in jail with that 1994 legislation than most ppl think. Good job.

Sorry but y'all reap what you sow....can't go back now. When the Republicans take over Congress in the midterms, then you are going to have a lame duck President for 2 more years and then i'm sorry to say there is going to be a red wave in 2022 and 2024.

Because the Dems have looked inept and incompetent with everything from the Covid response and testing, the vaccine mandate shyt, the inept and incompetent pullout from Afghanistan, the supply chain crisis, inflation, and the way they are hanging Kamala out to dry in the media.

Honestly tell me one thing this administration has done right in the last year and a half? Nothing.

I personally know MAD people who voted for Biden/ Dem just bc they didn't like Trump, but not really bc they liked Biden, but now they regret that vote and most of them say they are voting red in 2022 and 2024.

Anyone who thinks the GOP won't Nuke the filibuster when they're back in power is just plain oblivious to their mischievous ways

 

[AquaCityBoy]

Honestly if Bernie were president with this type of Senate make up I don't even think the stimulus gets passed.

He would have done way more as far as executive orders, but that's it.

Anyone who thinks the GOP won't Nuke the filibuster when they're back in power is just plain oblivious to their mischievous ways

All they care about is tax cuts and judges, both of which they can do with a simple majority. The filibuster actually protects them because the rest of their policies are massively unpopular nationally.

 

[Formerly Black Trash]

Honestly if Bernie were president with this type of Senate make up I don't even think the stimulus gets passed.

He would have done way more as far as executive orders, but that's it.



All they care about is tax cuts and judges, both of which they can do with a simple majority. The filibuster actually protects them because the rest of their policies are massively unpopular nationally.

All they care about is their base tho

 

[Controversy]

Honestly if Bernie were president with this type of Senate make up I don't even think the stimulus gets passed.

He would have done way more as far as executive orders, but that's it.



All they care about is tax cuts and judges, both of which they can do with a simple majority. The filibuster actually protects them because the rest of their policies are massively unpopular nationally.

So that's why Mitch wanted to nuke it at one point in time

they ain't fooling no one. If they are in total power by Jan 2025, authoritarianism will be imminent & they will Absolutely Nuke the filibuster.

It's all about advancing their priorities & they will blame democrat obstructionism

Did the merrick Garland saga not teach us anything?

 

[AquaCityBoy]

All they care about is their base tho

Which is not enough to keep them in the majority.

 

[AquaCityBoy]

It's all about advancing their priorities

They only have two priorities and they already can't be filibustered.

 

[Controversy]

They only have two priorities and they already can't be filibustered.

Their priorities will shift as the nation's demographics shift

I hope they're not in total control by Jan 2025, but if they are it will take a generation to undo the damage they'll inflict in 2-4 yrs

 

[Formerly Black Trash]

Their priorities will shift as the nation's demographics shift

I hope they're not in total control by Jan 2025, but if they are it will take a generation to undo the damage they'll inflict in 2-4 yrs

Explain please

 

[AquaCityBoy]

Their priorities will shift as the nation's demographics shift

I hope they're not in total control by Jan 2025, but if they are it will take a generation to undo the damage they'll inflict in 2-4 yrs

I agree with this. I just don't think they'll need to alter the filibuster to do it.

Republicans will almost by default control at least half of all state legislatures. Dem voters don't understand the value of state and local politics like Republicans, so the GOP may control even more. With the courts being 6-3 conservative (and possibly 7-2 because Breyer is on some bullshyt), they could theoretically just let their unpopular policies be enacted on the state level, let the courts uphold them and go, ". States' rights."

The GOP played the long game and won.

 

[Controversy]

Explain please

Election integrity wasn't a prominent issue until it became clear red states turned purple...and the GOP lost GA

Diverse school districts are forbidden from anything that teaches the true history of this country...the focus on the VA election was Critical Race Theory & it won the GOP an election in a blue state where the demographics shifted

The labor shortage has more to do with retiring boomers and not enough bodies willing to do low-skilled labor...a direct correlation with immigration

The dividing lines in America are now centered on culture and race...at one point it was shifting to class, which is how Bernie Sanders rose to prominence

The conservative agenda is now focused on education, anti-immigration, gender roles, etc...

The demographics of the base will determine the priorities

All I know is that if the GOP is in total control in Jan 2025, the filibuster will be gone and all types of extreme legislation will be passed