The Dems Do Nothing; A Never Ending Thread

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Biden needs to do something drastic

Right now it's looking like he'll go down in history as a joke

They got to play dirty

Maybe this is why Obama had doubts about Biden in 2016.

Obama and Clinton were clever in setting expectations and atleast getting the optics of a “win” even when they were triangulating and selling out progressives.

Biden just seems so hapless and weak.
 

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Maybe this is why Obama had doubts about Biden in 2016.

Obama and Clinton were clever in setting expectations and atleast getting the optics of a “win” even when they were triangulating and selling out progressives.

Biden just seems so hapless and weak.

To be fair no Dem president is passing anything in this environment.

Even if Bernie won the best he'd be able to do is just pass more executive orders, unless you think he could somehow get Manchinema in line.
 

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To be fair no Dem president is passing anything in this environment.

Even if Bernie won the best he'd be able to do is just pass more executive orders, unless you think he could somehow get Manchinema in line.

Good point. But I think Obama and Clinton would have slimmed down any proposal just to get a win. Not that I’m endorsing that strategy, :hubie:

but those two are the most gifted Machiavellian politicians in the last 40-50 years.
 

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I'm willing to give the Dems enough Senators to get 53 votes so we don't have to deal with the Sinema/Manchin bullshyt. But if they still can't get their caucus -- not the GOP, the Dem caucus-- to do shyt, then we really gonna have to find another way.

I'd rather have lukewarm legislation then whatever the GOP is handing out. But politicians should never be this ineffective.

Vote in your local elections, breh and brehettes.
 

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I'm willing to give the Dems enough Senators to get 53 votes so we don't have to deal with the Sinema/Manchin bullshyt. But if they still can't get their caucus -- not the GOP, the Dem caucus-- to do shyt, then we really gonna have to find another way.

I'd rather have lukewarm legislation then whatever the GOP is handing out. But politicians should never be this ineffective.

Vote in your local elections, breh and brehettes.
The thing is, Biden isn't coming down hard enough

Or Pelosi

Or Schumer

At least one of them should be beating Sinema and Manchins ass every day makes it seem like they all don't care
 

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The stick that parties used to keep members in line was re-election resources. Once somebody goes rogue and has alternate funding/resources for their re-election campaign , how do you keep them in line?
Kneecap them with what they want passed. Kill any funding they want. I'm sure there's other ways too. Manchin and sinema have things they want. Take them away.
 

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Kneecap them with what they want passed. Kill any funding they want. I'm sure there's other ways too. Manchin and sinema have things they want. Take them away.

All they have to do is wait for the GOP to be in power and they'll get what they want.
 
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