THE DARK KNIGHT RISES REVIEW THREAD [SPOILERS]

[gluvnast]

In the comics Bane figured out Bruce Wayne's identity on his own. Remember Bane isnt just a brute, he is actually one of the smartest Batman villains as well.

Like i said, the League of Shadows angle wasnt needed in the first place.

in the comics, BANE was suppose to be hispanic too and depended on the venom serum that gave him super strength...but this ISN'T the comics thou..

the LoS was needed MORE than the need of BANE. and i'm not saying that to dismiss BANE, but when u are talking storybook-wise, EVERYTHING IN TDKR ties up to BATMAN BEGINS!!! literally, everything!

 

[gluvnast]

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People are saying he was co-leader, nah, he was 2nd in command and he got a 2nd in command type of death, and its sad because he was built up so well

people on here acting like BANE went out like boba fett n sh1t!! HOW ELSE was he suppose to go out??? can someone please explain that...

and the 2nd in command type death is laughable when you have to consider how TALIA went out..

bane went out with a MISSILE shot at him... talia went out because the b1tch cannot drive for sh1t and wreck a f*ckin' HEMMT! seriously???

 

[The_Sheff]

in the comics, BANE was suppose to be hispanic too and depended on the venom serum that gave him super strength...but this ISN'T the comics thou..

the LoS was needed MORE than the need of BANE. and i'm not saying that to dismiss BANE, but when u are talking storybook-wise,
EVERYTHING IN TDKR ties up to BATMAN BEGINS!!! literally, everything!

Does that make the movie better? IMO no! TDK didnt tie into much of the 1st movie yet its the best in the series. This movie could have been made to stand more on its own and it would have still been good.

The past few years I never thought "it would be great if they revisited the LoS angle". Not once. All the final revelation did was reduce the standing of the villain they established throughout the movie. I didnt leave thinking Talia was a great villain at all. Bane and his constant sonning of Batman and his epic speeches were good enough.

 

[gluvnast]

Does that make the movie better? IMO no! TDK didnt tie into much of the 1st movie yet its the best in the series. This movie could have been made to stand more on its own and it would have still been good.

The past few years I never thought "it would be great if they revisited the LoS angle". Not once.

who ever said anything about being it BETTER? i think its lame to even compare films and just be happy you have a imppecable trilogy as a whole.

i like TDK like the next person, but y'all dicck-riding that film a bit TOO hard. if u feel like it's the best of the series. that's cool. but where did i say one was better than the other???

all i was saying that LoS was MORE relevent for TDKR than having BANE due to it TDKR brings everything back full circle. everything in TDKR ties up with BEGINS... that's strictly froma storybook standpoint.

you're problem is YOU want the VILLIAN be the MAIN FOCUS of the franchise when NOLAN decided that it should return the focus BACK ON BRUCE. like i said, i LOVED TDK, but everyone knows that THE JOKER overshadowed EVERYTHING ELSE in that film. if that's whut u prefer, so be it. but that's not the direction NOLAN wanted in this final installment. u may as well deal with it.

 

[The_Sheff]

who ever said anything about being it BETTER? i think its lame to even compare films and just be happy you have a imppecable trilogy as a whole.

i like TDK like the next person, but y'all dicck-riding that film a bit TOO hard. if u feel like it's the best of the series. that's cool. but where did i say one was better than the other???

all i was saying that LoS was MORE relevent for TDKR than having BANE due to it TDKR brings everything back full circle. everything in TDKR ties up with BEGINS... that's strictly froma storybook standpoint.

you're problem is YOU want the VILLIAN be the MAIN FOCUS of the franchise when NOLAN decided that it should return the focus BACK ON BRUCE. like i said, i LOVED TDK, but everyone knows that THE JOKER overshadowed EVERYTHING ELSE in that film. if that's whut u prefer, so be it. but that's not the direction NOLAN wanted in this final installment. u may as well deal with it.

I didnt ask if it made it better than TDK, im asking if the revelation of Talia improved upon DKR at that point. No it didnt. She wasnt a good villain, nobody wanted to see how Batman was going to take her down. It added nothing. Yes it tied it back to the first film but that added nothing to this one. It didnt improve upon this movie at all.

I dont care what Nolan wanted for his film. He made a movie for public consumption. As a paying customer i have a right to discuss the film, both what i liked and what i didnt. Nolan isnt God, his movies arent above criticism.

 

[Hagendas]

the only think that bugs me about this movie is how batman was a second tier character all the way through.

Also how his fist game was 3rd rate compared to bane and catwoman 8 years or not he was larry holmes status


Bane was right he got tooo comfortable hardly batman like at all

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[gluvnast]

I didnt ask if it made it better than TDK, im asking if the revelation of Talia improved upon DKR at that point. No it didnt. She wasnt a good villain, nobody wanted to see how Batman was going to take her down. It added nothing. Yes it tied it back to the first film but that added nothing to this one. It didnt improve upon this movie at all.

I dont care what Nolan wanted for his film. He made a movie for public consumption. As a paying customer i have a right to discuss the film, both what i liked and what i didnt. Nolan isnt God, his movies arent above criticism.

it's a matter of opinion of if u felt she's a good villian or not, i personally felt she was a bit underused myself as a villian, but i understood the SIGNIFICANCE she was to the story itself. you HAVE no story WITHOUT talia. she was the key individual that placed all the chess moves together. she was the inside mole, as well as the CHIEF motivator as to why all of this took place in the 1st place.

 

[Panther]

I didnt ask if it made it better than TDK, im asking if the revelation of Talia improved upon DKR at that point. No it didnt. She wasnt a good villain, nobody wanted to see how Batman was going to take her down. It added nothing. Yes it tied it back to the first film but that added nothing to this one. It didnt improve upon this movie at all.

I dont care what Nolan wanted for his film. He made a movie for public consumption. As a paying customer i have a right to discuss the film, both what i liked and what i didnt. Nolan isnt God, his movies arent above criticism.

Nolan fukked up the movie by revealing talia so late. And by having bane be the "son of ras" he fukked up even more, because the entire movie im thinking "where the fukk is talia" and she shouldve had a fight scene. Bane was a good villian but the story was fleshed up improperly imo

I feel like any batman fan who knew the story about ras and talia before watching this movie would have reacted to her reveal like: its about damn time vs the casual movie goer who would have reacted like

 

[gluvnast]

the only think that bugs me about this movie is how batman was a second tier character all the way through.

Also how his fist game was 3rd rate compared to bane and catwoman 8 years or not he was larry holmes status


Bane was right he got tooo comfortable hardly batman like at all

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i disagree with that too. in TDK, for sure he was used as a 2nd tier character. everything revolved around THE JOKER with the complete story arc being the rise and fall of harvey dent.

with this one, BRUCE was the main focus. it was HIS journey and his sacrifice at the end. there's no way he was viewed as a 2nd tier character in this particular film.

 

[gluvnast]

Nolan fukked up the movie by revealing talia so late. And by having bane be the "son of ras" he fukked up even more, because the entire movie im thinking "where the fukk is talia" and she shouldve had a fight scene. Bane was a good villian but the story was fleshed up improperly imo

i did wish talia was utilized better, i thought her death was lame as hell, but i was absolutely COOL with the timing of the turn. the vast majority of the people that been following the production of this film KNEW miranda tate was going to be talia. so, having the turn come up so LATE, was understandible, because, at least for me, it actually made me 2nd guess myself like maybe she was good afterall, i mean all the way til batman DEFEATED BANE, then BAM the turn!!! i was absolutely cool with that...

the thing that SUCKED was how SHE went out afterwards. i dunno if a fight scene was needed, but something had to been done, but in regards of story, when you have only 10 MINUTES LEFT before the reactor to explode...there's not much left you can do.

 

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I guess I'm the only person that was more impressed with Aaron Eckhart's portrayal of Dent in TDK than anyone else. Ledger was dope as The Joker, but I remember feeling Dent's emotions the first two times I saw it.
I hardly ever hear anyone mention fam when talking about The Dark Knight.

Dent was pretty significant TKDR, too, even though he was died.
Just my opinion

 

[Panther]

i did wish talia was utilized better, i thought her death was lame as hell, but i was absolutely COOL with the timing of the turn. the vast majority of the people that been following the production of this film KNEW miranda tate was going to be talia. so, having the turn come up so LATE, was understandible, because, at least for me, it actually made me 2nd guess myself like maybe she was good afterall, i mean all the way til batman DEFEATED BANE, then BAM the turn!!! i was absolutely cool with that...

the thing that SUCKED was how SHE went out afterwards. i dunno if a fight scene was needed, but something had to been done, but in regards of story, when you have only 10 MINUTES LEFT before the reactor to explode...there's not much left you can do.

I didnt know she was in the movie, i stayed away from as much info as possible going into the release of the film

 

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Nolan fukked up the movie by revealing talia so late. And by having bane be the "son of ras" he fukked up even more, because the entire movie im thinking "where the fukk is talia" and she shouldve had a fight scene. Bane was a good villian but the story was fleshed up improperly imo

I feel like any batman fan who knew the story about ras and talia before watching this movie would have reacted to her reveal like: its about damn time vs the casual movie goer who would have reacted like

I was surprised by the reveal. When the son of Ra's came up I was wondering why they didn't add Talia to the film since she is
1) the daughter of Ra's
2) Bane's sometime lover


I don't follow the production or watch trailers of movies I really want to see. I don't even read reviews to after I seen it, also.

 

[Data-Hawk]

It seems some Ppl wanted bane to be str8 evil, if that was the case he would of blown the city up n be done w/ it, LOS thought they were the good guys or doing the world a favor.

"there is no true despair without hope". Bane didnt play 2nd fiddle to talia, they both believed in the samething. Remeber alfred speech? "thats a man fighting with belief".

 

[gluvnast]

I guess I'm the only person that was more impressed with Aaron Eckhart's portrayal of Dent in TDK than anyone else. Ledger was dope as The Joker, but I remember feeling Dent's emotions the first two times I saw it.
I hardly ever hear anyone mention fam when talking about The Dark Knight.

Dent was pretty significant TKDR, too, even though he was died.
Just my opinion

agreed