THE DARK KNIGHT RISES REVIEW THREAD [SPOILERS]

[Real]

But yet still TDK is still a better overall film than TDKR. Take away the Joker you still have a well paced, well edited movie. The dark tone and atmosphere was great visually and set the tone. Batman was energetic and out to kick azz and fukk shyt up. Bruce Wayne was swagged out. etc.

TDKR- I personally excused the smaller plot holes and suspect moments like basically the whole prison scenes and how did he get back to Gotham and whatnot. It was just a sloppy flick period. entertaining- yes but sloppy. The 'just nick of time' throughout the movie, another 'bomb will explode the city' plot, not enough of Bats, too much Catwoman, the twist at the end, SEC wouldn't have let those trades go down which made Bruce Wayne go broke, knowing that Bane hijacked the markets, the lackluster fight scenes, etc etc.

-Nolan got away with all this because he's "Nolan". a newer guy probably would've been released from his directing duties by the studio and just maybe a script rewrite would've also happened as well. Whether you're a Nolan stan or not you can't ignore these things. He's definitely a very very talented guy no doubt about it but TDKR is not some of his best work imo.

Wrong, so wrong.

 

[malbaker86]

you know what dissapoints me about this thread? not liking this movie as much as the other two warrants outright disrespect. just because some of us had some issues doesnt mean it was a badly made movie, it means maybe on a personal level it wasnt as great as it was to others.

basically if i dont like the movie as much as some of you, im deemed stupid, and idiot etc. i gave my reasons and im fine with those that disagree, but im annoyed that having a different opinon on a movie means im a fukking idiot all of the sudden some of you border on the fanboyism that you claim is for "nerds" or "cacs" etc

whatever happened to you on Twitter??

 

[jwinfield]

But didn't Bane cause the chaos that Joker wanted to but couldn't?

Joker couldn't even get regular citizens to blow up a boat full of inmates.

Bane had Batman in some jail with a broken back, all but like 3 cops in the city trapped underground, a fukking army running the town, the judicial system went through the Scarecrow, had the rich thrown out into the street and was hanging people off of bridges just to prove a point. This went on for about 5 months.

 

[re'up]

That scene with the dudes hanging from the bridge should have been emphasized more, it was blink and miss it, but that shyt was cool, and would have created a much more desperate and anarchic atmosphere for Gotham, if they had more visuals like that, and less of Jim Gordon running around in full police gear.

 

[HookersandIceCream]

So this muthafukka just sat around 8 years and never went to the doctor to get his injuries from TDK fixed?

 

[jwinfield]

So this muthafukka just sat around 8 years and never went to the doctor to get his injuries from TDK fixed?

Was getting his Howard Hughes on....

 

[gluvnast]

But yet still TDK is still a better overall film than TDKR. Take away the Joker you still have a well paced, well edited movie. The dark tone and atmosphere was great visually and set the tone. Batman was energetic and out to kick azz and fukk shyt up. Bruce Wayne was swagged out. etc.

TDKR- I personally excused the smaller plot holes and suspect moments like basically the whole prison scenes and how did he get back to Gotham and whatnot. It was just a sloppy flick period. entertaining- yes but sloppy. The 'just nick of time' throughout the movie, another 'bomb will explode the city' plot, not enough of Bats, too much Catwoman, the twist at the end, SEC wouldn't have let those trades go down which made Bruce Wayne go broke, knowing that Bane hijacked the markets, the lackluster fight scenes, etc etc.

-Nolan got away with all this because he's "Nolan". a newer guy probably would've been released from his directing duties by the studio and just maybe a script rewrite would've also happened as well. Whether you're a Nolan stan or not you can't ignore these things. He's definitely a very very talented guy no doubt about it but TDKR is not some of his best work imo.

sooo, the scene where joker drops rachel, batman jumps to catch her from top of the penthouse, infinite stories deep, lands safely onto an unassuming cab with no injuries...then GO TO THE NEXT DAY with harvey dent wanting to export lau! we crying about PLOT HOLES in TDKR, but we had the BIGGEST PLOT HOLE in the entire trilogy with TDK with WTF THE JOKER was doing during that time when batman jumped to save rachel?? while doing all that, the joker and his henchmen were STILL up at the party with guests.. at BRUCE WAYNE'S CRIB!! it did show, imply, tell you NOTHING as to WHY batman didn't go BACK up there or how the joker escaped, or ANYTHING AT ALL....

and lets not go with the poorly executed 3rd act.../

so STOP with the excuses on TDKR when TDK had just as much to NITPICK on...

 

[gluvnast]

and this "just the nick of time throughout the movie" is total BS when there was only ONE JUST THE NICK OF TIME scene in there which was when catwoman saved batman. other than that whut "nick of time" were there? they could even stop the nuke from exploding!

 

[martin payne]

*walks through medal dectector*

guard :“Rookie, we need you to remove your helmet. We need faces for the camera

bane: *helmet whips guard*

guard:

 

[pete clemenza]

sooo, the scene where joker drops rachel, batman jumps to catch her from top of the penthouse, infinite stories deep, lands safely onto an unassuming cab with no injuries...then GO TO THE NEXT DAY with harvey dent wanting to export lau! we crying about PLOT HOLES in TDKR, but we had the BIGGEST PLOT HOLE in the entire trilogy with TDK with WTF THE JOKER was doing during that time when batman jumped to save rachel?? while doing all that, the joker and his henchmen were STILL up at the party with guests.. at BRUCE WAYNE'S CRIB!! it did show, imply, tell you NOTHING as to WHY batman didn't go BACK up there or how the joker escaped, or ANYTHING AT ALL....

and lets not go with the poorly executed 3rd act.../

so STOP with the excuses on TDKR when TDK had just as much to NITPICK on...

I already said TDK had some plot holes in the previous post I made and I said the 3rd act was bad(the whole two face plot wasn't really needed). I already said that shyt! BUT STILL STILL STILL... its 10x better than TDKR. Its holes are nothing compared to the holes in TDKR. The Dark Knight Rises is donut hole city!!

 

[HookersandIceCream]

*walks through medal dectector*

guard :“Rookie, we need you to remove your helmet. We need faces for the camera

bane: *helmet whips guard*

guard:

It is an Olympics year

 

[Monoblock]

So this muthafukka just sat around 8 years and never went to the doctor to get his injuries from TDK fixed?

But heals from a broken back in 2 months.

And another thing that Simpman shyt was a blower the whole movie. First off its NO way a nikka of Bruce's caliber is gonna mourn some pug faced bytch for 8 years. Let alone quit the mission he started to avenge his slain parents. But this entire movie is riddled with Simp ass actions. I thought I was watching a movie about Clark Kent.

To me, the "realism" or plot-flaws aspect isn't what annoys me (although I think it's easily the closest to the typical superhero movie of the trilogy); it's that all of the flaws are counter to how I interpret the characters. Admittedly, I haven't read many of the Batman comics, but I know Bruce has always been one to show no trust in people, be super guarded, etc. A cop faking his death for 5 minutes to catch a killer doesn't seem out of character. Joker being a criminal mastermind isn't out of character. Heck, even escaping from the prison isn't out of character for Batman (even though the Hollywoodish "I can make the jump now... WITHOUT THE ROPE!!!!... because I fear death" was unnecessary - they might as well have just made son want to do it because he didn't want to be outdone by a little girl).

In this, Bruce starts off having quit for 8 years because of TDK. That right there is counter to Batman's character as I understand it. Then son knows Catwoman for all of 5 minutes (exaggeration, but the movie doesn't make it seem like they know each other very long at all), and she steals his mom's pearls, leads him into a death trap, and then he's out of commission for 4+ months - but comes back and teams up (with NO reservation)with her because he thinks there's "more to her" ??? This before going to start his happily ever after with her after he saves the day????

I also didn't quite follow Bruce's relationship w/ Miranda very well. It just seemed like one day she was this woman begging for sponsorship to her program (I think because they canceled the project 3 yrs ago?) w/ Bruce making fun of her party, and then suddenly they're close and intimate and dude looks like he's about to cry when he finds out she's a bad guy.

The random guy finding out Bruce = Batman in TDK was pointless, but to me it's just as pointless as the Talia reveal, which basically served to add 5 more minutes of "ticking time bomb" action to a 2 hr 45 min movie at the expense of completely undermining the film's primary antagonist. Some random waste of 5 minutes in the middle of a great movie probably isn't going to be as damaging to the perception people have of a movie than a major plot twist that falls flat on its face at the climax/end of the movie.


As many have said in the thread, it's not a bad movie at all, it's certainly entertaining, I just felt that there's plenty of legitimate reasons to be annoyed with this.

On point.

 

[JayYoung314]

this nikka talkin bout he ain't got it yet and might have to raise the price cuz he taking life risks.

it's rough out here, breh.

lol 4 real?? where u stay at breh. thats too funny. i had batman for like a week.

 

[gluvnast]

noone as of YET realized that was the "lazarus pit"??

 

[gluvnast]

I already said TDK had some plot holes in the previous post I made and I said the 3rd act was bad(the whole two face plot wasn't really needed). I already said that shyt! BUT STILL STILL STILL... its 10x better than TDKR. Its holes are nothing compared to the holes in TDKR. The Dark Knight Rises is donut hole city!!

TDKR was more tightly connected than TDK... stop it. the only somewhut of a plot hole in TDKR is the question of how bruce was able to get back into gotham, in spite of the fact that we all know that was whut was gonna happen once he escaped the pit.

TDK was amazing, but it was filled with LEGITIMATE plot holes that you can never really explain AT ALL. i already mentioned rachel rescue as one example, another GLARING one is gordon's "5 DEAD, TWO OF THEM COPS" when speaking on the number of people two-face KILLED.

TDKR has nothing in that regard in comparison.