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Haven't seen the show but I remember shytting on people in that thread lol. The black experience is vast, dynamic, and versatile. There is room for any and every story to be told.

We live in a society that declares a movie with too many black characters "a black movie" but would never say the same about movies with majority white casts. I was watching A Place Between The Pines recently, which is a good movie so far (didn't have time to finish it). Two main characters are white men. Is it a film about white people? No one would label it as such. But this drives home the point that films like A Place Between the Pines aren't made with black people. I want to get to a point where they are made, and no one bats an eye.

Stories about black men struggling aren't a part of an agenda. Stories about black men fukking up aren't part of an agenda. And no, stories about black men being gay aren't part of an agenda either. They all fit in the black experience. And as long as I have no logical reason to doubt the intention of the writer, I'm going to view it for what it is: art. A movie or show I can think about, and hopefully something that challenges me.

thank you:russ:nikkas acting like black homosexual, bisexual, sexually confused or down low nikkas don't exist....

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Like i said wait till season two... she playing chess. Next year she'll be doing interviews saying, "i'm tackling the interracial dating problem many Black women go through"..

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I can read her mind... "oh my god, i'm swirling. I don't mind the smell. I love dogs. Black Girl Magic. Intersectionality."

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I'm not easily fooled like the rest of you nikkas. Remember this post.

exactly :mjlol:


there's a reason black women loved her youtube series so much :mjgrin:

be prepared, nikkas. :mjgrin:
 

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Click on threads about shows in your backlog and spoil yourself brehs :snoop:


In all seriousness, I've been meaning to check this show out. And if it's spawning this kind of thread :pachaha:, that's all the convincing I needed to get around to doing that tonight.
 

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I like the show :yeshrug:

The other thread made it seem like dude was just a bum and not doing anything. He was a graduate, trying to start an app, and was steady going to interviews. Had a job by like Ep 6 :dahell:

The show is more about how she is a shytty person than man bashing yall were reaching on this one
Season 1 breh. Did Walter White become Heisenberg in Season 1? Did John Snow become King of the North in Season 1?

By Season 2...

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She going to show you nikkas how she really feel!! :wow:
 

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i really like the show. every episode has some laugh out loud type shyt. The fat friend is fukkin hilarious, low key show stealer.

A really good depiction of young minority professionals and the subtle clowning of white people and there ignorance. I know i work for a non-profit that the helps inner city community rise above poverty, and white people act just like that round here.
 

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Cats are so feminine:heh: ashy can't you just appreciate the show for what it is? Cats aren't wrong for their criticisms of the first couple of episodes the same way that you aren't wrong for acknowledging that the show has picked up from the first two episodes. There's no denying that the first couple of episodes pushed narratives that are commonly used to negatively generalize black men. Now the show has picked up and become much less predictable since those first couple episodes. Nobody owes an apology for commenting on what they saw tho. Now if cats were refusing to acknowledge that the show has approved then you'd be justified in your sassy bytching.

The truth of the matter is that the portrayal of black women on the show in the last couple of eps is almost as problematic as the portrayal of black men in the first couple of eps. The two main black woman characters are both bytches who really aren't that likeable. Seems like a show by and for black women should have better female characters representing them.

I like shows about flawed characters, I just find it more interesting to watch. If Atlanta and Insecure had characters who were perfect and represented black life in the best, possible way I'd find both of them boring as hell. Yes, Issa and Molly are headcases but they have a depth, realness and humanity to them that you won't see in a Tyler Perry movie where all the characters are badly written black and white caricatures. Truth is there are a lot of black women like the ones in Insecure who have the same views on relationships/black men etc. I don't think the show was trying to push that as an agenda or narrative, just showing it for what it was. If we're gonna praise a film like Boyz or Menace or a TV show like Atlanta for showing a certain situation/mindset for what it is and not attacking the creator for it, why not do the same for Insecure, as long as its quality art?

Black artists seem to have this pressure placed on them where they can't just be artists showing interesting but flawed people but they have to somehow represent black life in the best possible way or risk being deemed a sellout/c00n/etc, even if it compromises the art. I mean, I get it, they don't have the privilege of white artists who can tell stories that are viewed as just individual stories, not the definitive "white" experience. But when it comes to black art I'd rather the focus be on quality rather than preachy didacticism. As @Piff Perkins mentioned, the black experience is way too diverse and vast for us to limit black art like that
 

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I like the show :yeshrug:

The other thread made it seem like dude was just a bum and not doing anything. He was a graduate, trying to start an app, and was steady going to interviews. Had a job by like Ep 6 :dahell:

The show is more about how she is a shytty person than man bashing yall were reaching on this one

ep4
 

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I love both shows. I don't know why some feel one has to be better than the other. As if you couldn't watch a different world just because you liked cosby show. Both are quality black tv shows
 

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["Busted_Toes, post: 21971117, member: 13777"]Like i said wait till season two... she playing chess. Next year she'll be doing interviews saying, "i'm tackling the interracial dating problem many Black women go through"..

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I can read her mind... "oh my god, i'm swirling. I don't mind the smell. I love dogs. Black Girl Magic. Intersectionality."

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I'm not easily fooled like the rest of you nikkas. Remember this post.[/QUOTE]
Yea negroes so easily swayed

Shows have focus groups and meetings to survey the public on how they feel about the show. In today's climate, you can totally alienate your black audience if you go the route the show likely was planning to go. You see a show like Luke cage and how disappointed that crowd was when they found out the star of Luke cage was married to a white women, they see the climate change and in order to keep the audience they likely playing it safe.

Rest assure tho, once they draw the numbers in, the bed wench c00n brigade will come out. It's inevitable. Can't blame posters who have seen this kind of story too often for assuming this is the route it's going.

Most black shows take the same roller coaster route, jeffersons, George starts off calling white people hunkeys and their child zebra, by the end of the series Tom his best friend

Good times , Michael starts off the militant midget, by the end of the show he a clowning fake playboy like his brother JJ.

You have all these shows on tv now, dealing with the plight of police abuse and misconduct shooting unarmed civilians later on it's all about tolerance smh
 
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