ur fukkin wierd man. u need to get over this idea that ya'll will be competing anytime soon.
The Cavs Andrew Wiggins/Kevin Love Dilemma*Update* Deal is finalized
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ur fukkin wierd man. u need to get over this idea that ya'll will be competing anytime soon.
tremonthustler1
aka bx_representer
What the hell does Bron owe Wiggins ?
Ya'll will hate on Bron for ANYTHING, good lord
Bron learned from Hova
Exactly. Love didn't say anything to LaVine either. Not a welcome tweet, not anything. It's kinda fukked up, but I think everyone knows the situation by now. The 30 day wait is what makes this so awkward.
tremonthustler1
aka bx_representer
Then if they won't, their most valuable player will leave and all that will be left is a neverending rebuild til 2032.
It's easy from motherfukkers like yourself to get all excited about the team and dunks and all that other shyt. You have no interest in what the final result is. You can have all the cool highlights. If they lose, I don't give a fukk. I've said too many times I wouldn't trip off this except I have no interest in waiting 10 more years to MAYBE crack the 8th seed. It's not worth the wait at that point.
Point is everybody was looking out for their own self-interests. How the fukk is it about the team when nobody is doing what it takes to improve the team and they are just sitting back waiting to see what a non-commital ass, unloyal nikka is gonna do? Like I said, you can say what you feel about Bron but Riles, Wade, and Bosh weren't exactly innocent angels here. If those dudes sign back for a discount and Riles brings in some combo of Lowry, Deng, Gortat, Gasol and Bron still bounces then yeah we can throw this all on him. The fact that nobody would commit until he did shows they knew what it was.
You keep talking was when im talking about now and this upcoming season.Sure D. Wade is getting worse the point is that Kyrie is already worse.Kyrie is never gonna approach what D. Wade was so having him and a better/rebounding but even worse on defense Bosh isn't really an upgrade.
You dont get it
no. you need to get over the idea that your team is supposed to win. there's only been like 10 teams to win titles in nba history. usually the same teams win all the time. and unless you get a transcendant generational player, your chances at winning a title are nil. you should be happy that this might be your chance at getting that transcendant generational talent.
No you don't get it. Kyrie is comparable to the current D. Wade. The same D. Wade that Bron got blown off the floor with a month and a half ago. It makes 0 sense to re-create the same team that just got raped in the Finals. This only makes sense if you have the D. Wade from 2010 and before. You don't so it doesn't.
You one of dudes biggest defenders, this is my last reply you got it dawg
So in other words you really have no substantive response huh?
I just wanna know how that shyt was about the team? Is that too much to ask? nikkas wanna shyt on Bron, in some instances it's justified, and then totally ignore/spin the fact that the same dudes they are riding for were hanging from his nuts. All of these "real nikkas" Wade, Melo, Riles were sitting up waiting for dude to give the slightest indication as to what he was gonna do, like thirsty dudes on a Saturday night, but he's the one who warrants all the criticism?
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MO WILLIAMS
18PPG 47% FG 44% 3P
KYRIE WILL BE MO WILLIAMS ON STEROIDS.
LOVE IS ALREADY THE PLAYER OFFENSIVELY THEY HAVE TRIED TO MORPH BOSH INTO.
But Boshes Defense was HUGE for the heat during their run.
Love will add NOTHING defensivly to a squad already thin on defense.
1. They arent recreating the same team. Having one of your big 3 at the point guard position > at the shooting guard position. It throws out the whole aspect of PGs like Tony Parker,D Rose and Westbrook being able to sleep on defense because they have to guard shytty chalmers who shoots 13% from the court.No you don't get it. Kyrie is comparable to the current D. Wade. The same D. Wade that Bron got blown off the floor with a month and a half ago. It makes 0 sense to re-create the same team that just got raped in the Finals. This only makes sense if you have the D. Wade from 2010 and before. You don't so it doesn't.
2. They didnt even win in 2010 so why would they need that D Wade
As long as Kyrie can take pressure of Lebron (which he can), Its up to the role players. Heat big 3 in 2010 > Heat big 3 in 2012/2013 but they had the role players that helped them win championships.
Dion Waiters alone is better than anyone outside the Heat big 3. Then Mike Miller, Trisitan Thompson ect
tremonthustler1
aka bx_representer
You think I'm talking about a championship? They haven't made the playoffs in a DECADE! fukk do I look like worrying about a championship I KNOW this team will never reach?
And I like Wiggins, but transcendent generational talent he'll never be. He doesn't have the mental temperament to be that great. He'll be really good eventually, but I'm not guaranteeing shyt with him. The best thing he may have going for him is that he'll be developing in relative anonymity.
KingOFKings
All Star
I agree that Kyrie will be Mo Williams on roids...however, Love's effect isn't going to be as strong as some people think it will. Bosh always had a long range game in Toronto, so it wasn't anything new..although he was regulated to just being a spot up shooter in Miami. Spo and the coaching staff really messed it up, as Bosh's face up game in the post was the best in the league while he was in Toronto (he was able to blow by anyone). People don't understand that was his bread and butter, Bosh was never a chump on offence, he was actually one of the most efficient players in the league in scoring, and still is per possession and touch. You give him a touch and he will give you a bucket.
The combination of a true inside/outside game would have given them the edge over the Spurs this year and we would be looking at at least one more ring. You will see this year as he's going to be the undisputed number one option (over an ageing Wade). The reality is (and most Miami fans will agree), is that Bosh should have been given the reigns to be the second option this year over Wade.
Love is obviously going to have to sacrifice major points just like Bosh, don't kid yourself. However, he doesn't have 1/10th of the defensive skills/capabilities that Bosh does. Don't kid yourself with the rebound numbers, Bosh has the ability to routinely guard smaller/quicker players on the perimeter,and has been doing that for Miami. In Toronto he was more of a post defender, hence the decrease in rebound numbers. He will return to an official 20 + 10 boards this year if basic/bare stats is all you care about.
Love is actually the worst rim defender in the league, and his D overall is pretty horrid (and that's being kind). That's the true difference and IMO, Bosh gets the nod as the overall better player. Basketball is played on both ends of the floor, especially in the playoffs.
Lastly, no one has ever accused Bosh of "stat-padding" the same way Love has been getting criticism for years over it. It's because he impacts the game on multiple levels and people can tell when a player is involved in the game/and a true go to guy. Love has never struck me as this type of player, maybe just on O, yet his overall impact on the game is severely lacking. When Bosh put up a monster game for the Raptors, you knew they went home with a W. When Love did the same for the Wolves, you just never knew..yet chance were high that they lost.
We will see though.
The combination of a true inside/outside game would have given them the edge over the Spurs this year and we would be looking at at least one more ring. You will see this year as he's going to be the undisputed number one option (over an ageing Wade). The reality is (and most Miami fans will agree), is that Bosh should have been given the reigns to be the second option this year over Wade.
Love is obviously going to have to sacrifice major points just like Bosh, don't kid yourself. However, he doesn't have 1/10th of the defensive skills/capabilities that Bosh does. Don't kid yourself with the rebound numbers, Bosh has the ability to routinely guard smaller/quicker players on the perimeter,and has been doing that for Miami. In Toronto he was more of a post defender, hence the decrease in rebound numbers. He will return to an official 20 + 10 boards this year if basic/bare stats is all you care about.
Love is actually the worst rim defender in the league, and his D overall is pretty horrid (and that's being kind). That's the true difference and IMO, Bosh gets the nod as the overall better player. Basketball is played on both ends of the floor, especially in the playoffs.
Lastly, no one has ever accused Bosh of "stat-padding" the same way Love has been getting criticism for years over it. It's because he impacts the game on multiple levels and people can tell when a player is involved in the game/and a true go to guy. Love has never struck me as this type of player, maybe just on O, yet his overall impact on the game is severely lacking. When Bosh put up a monster game for the Raptors, you knew they went home with a W. When Love did the same for the Wolves, you just never knew..yet chance were high that they lost.
We will see though.
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If thats the case why is James Harden considered the best SG in the NBA and not Klay Thompson?
His scoring will go down because he playing with Bron and Kyrie yes. But his rebounding wont. Bron led Miami scoring rebounding and assists. Wont be the case in Cleveland
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