The Cavs Andrew Wiggins/Kevin Love Dilemma*Update* Deal is finalized

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D. Wade as a hobbled 2nd option last year- 19, 5,5 on 55% shooting
Kyrie as the man in his healthiest season to date- 21, 4, 6 on 43% shooting
Defense isn't really something you wanna discuss for either guy. Wade in his prime blows him out of the water. It says a lot when you can only compare Kyrie to the current :flabbynsick: version of Wade.

K. Love is a better fit on offense because he can shoot 3s AND grab rebounds (what a concept :ehh:) but he gives him even less on defense.
D Wade is still an high IQ player. Hes not out there scoring single digits but he isnt a legit 2nd option like he was in 2010.

Kyrie is a better shooter, better finisher, and more explosive then d wade right now and he has the clutch gene
 

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Wade and Bosh sacrificed enough of their game the last 4 years, they had no obligation to turn around and give up even more money on top of that to appease LeBron.

Point is they could have committed before he made his choice either way. Bron was gonna get his max money either way, they weren't gonna be appeasing him. Them taking less money out the gate would have benefited the team, not just Bron if he stayed.

I didnt say they would win multiple championships.

By dominant, i meant they would be relevant for another 5-7 years. All they need to do is win one

:what:

We can't just change the meaning of words to suit or own purposes breh. :heh:
 

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I didnt say they would win multiple championships.

By dominant, i meant they would be relevant for another 5-7 years. All they need to do is win one
if you don't mean dominant then why use the word?
why you coli nikkas always throw around hyperboles?
It can't be "contenders for the next 3-4 years"? Nope. Team has to be dominat for a senate term.
 

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Point is they could have committed before he made his choice either way. Bron was gonna get his max money either way, they weren't gonna be appeasing him. Them taking less money out the gate would have benefited the team, not just Bron if he stayed.

Wade was never leaving, was Bosh re-affirming his choice to stay in Miami supposed to sway LeBron from a decision he had already made? :mjlol: Again, them cats had no obligation to take a pay cut for any reason, wasn't their man who won MVP :sas2:
 

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D Wade is still an high IQ player. Hes not out there scoring single digits but he isnt a legit 2nd option like he was in 2010.

Kyrie is a better shooter, better finisher, more explosive then d wade right now and he has the clutch gene

:what: How the fukk is a guy basically putting up the same numbers as a first option as 2nd option not a legit 2nd option? :what: Wade was still a legit #1 in 2010 and far better than Kyrie has ever considered being. Once again we are comparing a 22/23 yr old guy to a guy who's best days are behind him and this is supposed to be a positive reflection on that 22/23 yr old guy? :dwillhuh:
 

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if you don't mean dominant then why use the word?
why you coli nikkas always throw around hyperboles?
It can't be "contenders for the next 3-4 years"? Nope. Team has to be dominat for a senate term.
That big 3 is the recipe for success.

Its onto the role players after that but a big 3 with those players can be dominant and have a spurs like run.
 

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Wade was never leaving, was Bosh re-affirming his choice to stay in Miami supposed to sway LeBron from a decision he had already made? :mjlol: Again, them cats had no obligation to take a pay cut for any reason, wasn't their man who won MVP :sas2:

I didn't say anything about swaying him. No matter what Bron does or doesn't do the team is better off with Bosh and Wade's signings out of the way, especially if it's for a discount. They couldn't make any moves with those guys cap holds being what they were. If you wanna shyt on Bron, fine. However to act like it made any sense whatsoever or benefited the team in any way, for those dude to wait until after he made his move to re-sign, from the same bias perspective that makes you lash out at Bron mind you, is just intellectually dishonest.
 

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:what: How the fukk is a guy basically putting up the same numbers as a first option as 2nd option not a legit 2nd option? :what: Wade was still a legit #1 in 2010 and far better than Kyrie has ever considered being. Once again we are comparing a 22/23 yr old guy to a guy who's best days are behind him and this is supposed to be a positive reflection on that 22/23 yr old guy? :dwillhuh:
Im not talking about 2010. Im talking about now.

And what i know NOW is D wade is getting worse every year(FACT) he cant shoot (FACT) and he doesnt play defense(FACT).

This guy misses a quarter of the season and still played old in the finals. Hes done. Not a 2nd option anymore. You keep talking about his numbers this year but his numbers next year would be worse. Everything would drop like it has every year for d wade
 

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That big 3 is the recipe for success.

Its onto the role players after that but a big 3 with those players can be dominant and have a spurs like run.
Spurs run wasn't dominant either

look i know what you mean but don't use dominant if you mean steady contenders
 

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I didn't say anything about swaying him. No matter what Bron does or doesn't do the team is better off with Bosh and Wade's signings out of the way, especially if it's for a discount. They couldn't make any moves with those guys cap holds being what they were. If you wanna shyt on Bron, fine. However to act like it made any sense whatsoever or benefited the team, for those dude to wait until after he made his move to re-sign, from the same bias perspective that makes you lash out at Bron mind you, is just intellectually dishonest.

Those guys did not have contracts on the books :snoop: Riley was going to give LeBron his max and everyone else would've fell in line, you think Bosh is getting a max contract with LeBron there? c'mon :mjlol:
 

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Im not talking about 2010. Im talking about now.

And what i know NOW is D wade is getting worse every year(FACT) he cant shoot (FACT) and he doesnt play defense(FACT).

This guy misses a quarter of the season and still played old in the finals. Hes done. Not a 2nd option anymore. You keep talking about his numbers this year but his numbers next year would be worse. Everything would drop like it has every year for d wade

Sure D. Wade is getting worse the point is that Kyrie is already worse. :heh: Kyrie is never gonna approach what D. Wade was so having him and a better/rebounding but even worse on defense Bosh isn't really an upgrade.
 

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Those guys did not have contracts on the books :snoop: Riley was going to give LeBron his max and everyone else would've fell in line, you think Bosh is getting a max contract with LeBron there? c'mon :mjlol:

They had cap holds breh. :wtf: You do know how this works right? :patrice: Why nikkas gotta wait for Bron to fall in line if they are all about doing what's best for the team regardless. Which one is it...they aren't obligated to sacrifice money for Bron or Bosh doesn't get the same deal if Bron is there? :dwillhuh:
 

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They had cap holds breh. :wtf: You do know how this works right? :patrice: Why nikkas gotta wait for Bron to fall in line if they are all about doing what's best for the team regardless. Which one is it...they aren't obligated to sacrifice money for Bron or Bosh doesn't get the same deal if Bron is there? :dwillhuh:

It IS about the team. Do you understand how this works? You want Bosh to leave 10 mil on the table for Bron to bounce and they just end up adding Luol? Jesus Christ. All nikkas asked for was transparency, if you want to leave cool, pick up the phone let Riley know so the team can continue with plan B.
 
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