The Case For Reparations by Tanehisi Coates

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At least we can tell who native Americans are. You fakkits collecting checks while being first generation Americans :mjlol:
 

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i agree that some sort of reparations are owed

but the obvious obstacles imo is that you would have to verify who actually descended from the slaves who did the work. and then the reparations would have to come from those who benefited from the work (and yea, i know the country as a whole did)

for example, my ancestors got off the boat in 1900. i dont owe anyone a fukkin cent of my money, regarding reparations from slavery. i dont even have any money that was passed down
the government should cut the check. at the end of the day, they are the ones who condoned slavery, and fostered an economy built upon it.
 

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I think this piece is indicative of the environment and the problem you'd have with slavery. Time used as a tool to deny a suit.

Let's face it. Time has been used as a buffer in these cases. So FINALLY these women have come across some sort of justice but the rules are set in opposition to what would be considered just. According to these opponents of reparations, and Coates confronts this argument in his rebuttal piece that @Poitier posted, descendants aren't due these things because of the time aspect.

So the women that are left alive after all these years now have til the end of the month to file their claim. Seems fair after the program was started 80 years ago. One of the things that sticks out to me is that these women, living and gone, have no children for that settlement to pass to. So we have nearly 100 years of these programs, years of litigation, a very short time to file your claim, and litigants that cannot pass the winnings to their offspring.

This is EXACTLY how the Tulsa case went. Those that were forced out of their homes and chased out of town had no way to file a claim. When they did, they were told that the statute of limitations had passed (it was something like 2 years if I remember correctly) and now only recently has that case been revisited. Sounds like justice will finally be served but that time aspect is being used against the children of the original claimants.

IF there is going to be an effort to compensate the descendants of slaves, the time aspect has to be brought off of the table. This convenient and sudden concern with strict adherence to legal procedure expresses the nature of the problem and ignores the goals of the legal system. The rules exist to guide the process, not stop it. America had no problem ignoring the supposed rights of black folks for hundreds of years and now when it's time to answer for that, everybody gets all uptight and nobody knows anything and it's strictly by the book. If we can enjoy the fruits of these labors, then we must be willing to pay the price for them. No such thing as a free ride.
 

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Article hit home. My great great great grandfather's slave master actually gave him his freedom and gave him a house and land. My family still has it today.

See now this illustrates EXACTLY why this is still so relevant. That generational piece is no joke.

There was an economist that followed the descendants of blacks who were owned by Native Americans and used those owned by whites as a control. Some of these former slaves were given land and wealth when they were freed and she was able to look at their lineages vs those who weren't. We all know the answer to this: those families that received reparations STILL show higher averages of educational attainment, income, and lifespan. If you guys are interested I'll find her paper. Hell I have her email address around somewhere so I can try to get her to chime in.
 
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