The Black community is gonna have to put up class barriers if its going to survive in the future.

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Yeah, it's a problem when you have a net negative influence where the worst are convincing the best to be dumb and clout chase and shaming the smart people.

The Latin population is already larger and growing and the Asian population is actually growing quite fast (already about half the Black population).

The thing is both of those groups have or are filtering out their lesser-quality individuals. It's not really about your population, but your effective and contributive population.

Your ignorant crowd tend to be people who talk the loudest and when it comes to interaction with everyone else, it won't look good when that crowd has grown to be too large and sets the lens. The Latin community for example have grown exponentially better at dealing with and suppressing their "hood" crowd from speaking loudly at the table and embarrassing them and that's why their educational scores are growing.

When it comes time to voting for example, your population who understand the issues to push forward will be catered to the most by Democrats and lawmakers. If the powers that be see that a demographic is too ignorant to vote, they won't cater to them or will lose hope on them entirely.

This doesn't mean leave poor people behind. It means leaving poor and rich useless people who have no interest in trying to be better behind. Those groups are straight up more detrimental because they want to bring everyone else down with them rather than rise to the occasion and be useful.

It's not about necessarily about wealth class, it's about people with good intentions and quality people. People who give a shyt and are putting in an honest effort and not simply people who are complaining but doing nothing for themselves or anyone else. You can't just sit there and think you'll be unconditionally put on the same regard. Too many people low key way too entitled about other people's accomplishments or the work other people are doing but want to be the first to get kickback.
 
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have you had success reaching any of the kids?
We have the neighbors kids, so 4 total, that occasionally talk with us and lean on us for advice. So I feel blessed to be able to be a help to them, and don't take it for granted, but I do feel like our community tries to foster this but the new culture as a whole has been so detrimental that the positive has been hard to see in a sea of destruction.

Don't get me wrong, I do believe any good outshines all bad, but it can just be demoralizing at times.
 

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I'm thinking of moving out of the majority Black suburb I live in. It is in the top 20 wealthiest majority Black areas in the nation. On the outside that sounds good. In reality, it won't be this way for much longer.

The majority of the kids are in gangs now, everybody smelling like they just hotboxed a pound, gunshots every other weekend, break-ins and robberies on the rise, rapings on the track at the community park, houses being shot up, teachers being hit with concrete pavers, etc.

I'm on the PTO, participate in the HOA, have volunteered for Neighborhood Watch, setup a studio at my house and invite kids over to give them a creative outlet, host fish fry and BBQ events.

It's frustrating, because I always felt like it was external forces, and if we can get to a place where we're able to hold each other up, we'd be fine. Well, I'm in that Utopia and this is where I'm at internally. I'm really conflicted about it.

I'll just pour a drink this evening and play some music and forget about it until something else happens in the news.
I have thoughts on this...I'll just say location isn't enough. The parents have to build a mental gate as well. Living in a suburban black neighborhood is great but if we aren't policing what they watch/listen to, regulating their free time and activities, and if we aren't heavily vetting their friend groups, this is what happens.
 

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We can't. The 'bottom' dudes make up the majority of the community and have all the power because women choose them.

Why would a hood dude listen to a middle class Black man when the hood dude has far easier access to women on average.
You on to something
At the end of the day this hood vs square shyt basically boils down to women
 

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Let's be real it's way too much co mingling between the different classes in the community.
Nikkas from the projects shouldn't be that comfortable to show up at non hood spots and act a damn fool and everyone thinks that's just normal.

The expectation to go back and help build the hood up when in reality we know that's an impossible task that no other group is forced to do. Historically a burden some task like that has NEVER been achieved. shyt cacs can't even build up Appalachia or middle America. What trailer parks have you ever heard about get successfully built up? Has the Barrio ever went from shyt to shinning example of success?

The Sexxy Reds, City Girls, Sukihanas, NBA Youngboys of the world aren't supposed to have relevance in the suburbs like they do in the hood.
Where are the equivalents in other cultures?
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All OP (Who is South African btw) does is make anti Afram propaganda threads...:mjpls:



Sup with card carrying members of the Coli immigrant class and their infatuation with talking down, undermining, and Afram genocide...:jbhmm:



@Problematic Pat mind your business and sweep your own front porch, tether.
I should have known. :francis:

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:youngsabo: There is no black community, there are black communities. If you want to recreate classism, just get money and hang the rich black folk, and leave us alone
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Ive echoed a similar sentiment in other threads. We have too many "good kids" who get bogged down in bullshyt due to mingling with people who are trash.

The Brandon Miller situation was IMO a microcosm of this. Miller comes from a good household with both parents, the Darius Miles kids mother is a police officer and father a military veteran.

But the Michael Lynn Davis guy was a straight up street breh.

But he was one of Miles oldest friends.

I get that DC (where Miles and Davis are from) is structured where the hood is right by the Burbs but where were the parents to keep Miles away from that street shyt? There is not a strong enough culture of shaming and elitism in our middle class.

Outside of Boule folk who are usually from the DMV area, we dont have a strong culture of social climbers who view hood shyt with pure disdain even if they are from the hood themselves. You see this with other ethnicities who will straight up exile their kids if they catch wind of them doing low class shyt.

Ill say it again, i look at the movie ATL in a funny light as a adult. New-News dad was RIGHT and they tried to paint him the villain. Mans was from the gutter and got his family in a mansion and his daughter was all too quick to bust it open to an aspiring janitor who could DRAW and his drug dealing brother. FOH :hhh:
 

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Let's be real it's way too much co mingling between the different classes in the community.
Nikkas from the projects shouldn't be that comfortable to show up at non hood spots and act a damn fool and everyone thinks that's just normal.

The expectation to go back and help build the hood up when in reality we know that's an impossible task that no other group is forced to do. Historically a burden some task like that has NEVER been achieved. shyt cacs can't even build up Appalachia or middle America. What trailer parks have you ever heard about get successfully built up? Has the Barrio ever went from shyt to shinning example of success?

The Sexxy Reds, City Girls, Sukihanas, NBA Youngboys of the world aren't supposed to have relevance in the suburbs like they do in the hood.
Where are the equivalents in other cultures?
This is a stupid post. You didn't even explain how increasing class stratification will help black people survive in the future. Substantively how will this help? Can you show me data that shows that when you keep different economic classes in the same racial group apart from one another it'll help that racial group survive in the future in a substantive way?
 

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This is a stupid post. You didn't even explain how increasing class stratification will help black people survive in the future. Substantively how will this help? Can you show me data that shows that when you keep different economic classes in the same racial group apart from one another it'll help that racial group survive in the future in a substantive way?


The whole thread starters inference is pure nonsense anyway.

Class stratification is a natural course of economics, poor whites dont live around upper class or even middle middle class whites because they cant afford to.


There is a thought process devoid of reality that keeps propagating these sorts of arguments
 
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