The Black community is gonna have to put up class barriers if its going to survive in the future.

[CrushedGroove]

I'm thinking of moving out of the majority Black suburb I live in. It is in the top 20 wealthiest majority Black areas in the nation. On the outside that sounds good. In reality, it won't be this way for much longer.

The majority of the kids are in gangs now, everybody smelling like they just hotboxed a pound, gunshots every other weekend, break-ins and robberies on the rise, rapings on the track at the community park, houses being shot up, teachers being hit with concrete pavers, etc.

I'm on the PTO, participate in the HOA, have volunteered for Neighborhood Watch, setup a studio at my house and invite kids over to give them a creative outlet, host fish fry and BBQ events.

It's frustrating, because I always felt like it was external forces, and if we can get to a place where we're able to hold each other up, we'd be fine. Well, I'm in that Utopia and this is where I'm at internally. I'm really conflicted about it.

I'll just pour a drink this evening and play some music and forget about it until something else happens in the news.

 

[CreepyMcCreeperson]

You think every black person lives in thr ghetto or out in the street apparently

Obviously not, but if that is your environment, we don’t have enough people in that environment who are making an effort to better the community. And throwing money at everything isn’t going to change values.

 

[3rdWorld]

Africa got colonized. Did they fight off the colonizers? Were we in the mines getting the diamonds and gold?

Colonialism in Africa is no different to the enforced segregation of Black people in America.
In both cases perpetrated by Europeans.

Both ended, to somewhat equal degrees around the same time. 1960s on average.
Major difference is Africans acquired Republics and statehood. Black Americans did not, obviously due to being removed from Africa and not acquiring statehood in America.
How people subsequently choose to manage themselves is another story.

 

[Neuromancer]

There would be a class barrier when suburban nikkas want to be drillers

Elaborate please.

 

[CreepyMcCreeperson]

What you don't understand is there are no jobs and there is no public transportation in many places. Some men don't have choice, otherwise they starve to death.

Please tell me where there is no public transportation. NO busses? Let’s take Chicago for instance. Are you telling me there is no public transportation on the south side of Chicago?

 

[CreepyMcCreeperson]

I'm thinking of moving out of the majority Black suburb I live in. It is in the top 20 wealthiest majority Black areas in the nation. On the outside that sounds good. In reality, it won't be this way for much longer.

The majority of the kids are in gangs now, everybody smelling like they just hotboxed a pound, gunshots every other weekend, break-ins and robberies on the rise, rapings on the track at the community park, houses being shot up, teachers being hit with concrete pavers, etc.

I'm on the PTO, participate in the HOA, have volunteered for Neighborhood Watch, setup a studio at my house and invite kids over to give them a creative outlet, host fish fry and BBQ events.

It's frustrating, because I always felt like it was external forces, and if we can get to a place where we're able to hold each other up, we'd be fine. Well, I'm in that Utopia and this is where I'm at internally. I'm really conflicted about it.

I'll just pour a drink this evening and play some music and forget about it until something else happens in the news.

This is the sad and confusing part. We have kids who have money, but WANT to live a dangerous lifestyle. All the excuses are about money, yet when it’s there, the values are still lacking. The excuse is, it’s done out of desperation, but when these kids aren’t born into that, they still find it appealing. How in the world can that life be appealing?

 

[BaggerofTea]

Obviously not, but if that is your environment, we don’t have enough people in that environment who are making an effort to better the community. And throwing money at everything isn’t going to change values.

You should probably go out and engage and have a conversation with them instead of opining on thecoli.com

 

[desjardins]

I wish this were possible. Like a distinct separation between the classes like white trash vs the rest of white america
Thinking about it I'm not sure any other race has been able to achieve that, maybe immigrants who get labeled "FOB" vs multi generation ppl from the same countries but FOB people can quickly get out of that tier by becoming Americanized so not quite the same imo

The biggest thing blocking blacks from creating different tiers is outside of PG County and maybe Atlanta there just aren't enough sizable middle class/wealthy pockets of black america. You have the professional class but we aren't a "community". Like everyone I hang with is above the ghetto class but we are scattered all over the city and suburbs and just come to each other houses to hang out. Houses in neighborhoods where we are the minority ie: white areas. We get viewed as "the good ones" instead of being representatives for the race.

 

[K.O.N.Y]

We’ll continue to talk in circles. Like a lot of this thread is. With this open ended black community shyt, that doesn’t address cultural core.

outside ofWhite supremacy , lack of cultural core and awareness is our biggest problem

Families, the idea of legacy, black boys to men pipeline,disciplined culture structures,group economics etc All depend on that being established first

Lineage—ethnic based awareness is the way

 

[Thurgood Thurston III]

Black people don't control our own media.


We need strong independent Black media like we had in the past with prominent Black newspapers and publications.

This is the main issue.

And the little media we do control is usually concerned with bullshyt like who black men/women are allowed to date.

We just need strong counter-propaganda and honestly we need to start manipulating our own people.

 

[Voice of Reason]

This is the main issue.

And the little media we do control is usually concerned with bullshyt like who black men/women are allowed to date.

We just need strong counter-propaganda and honestly we need to start manipulating our own people.

My bad I mistook you for a different poster.

 

[skyrunner1]

This is the sad and confusing part. We have kids who have money, but WANT to live a dangerous lifestyle. All the excuses are about money, yet when it’s there, the values are still lacking. The excuse is, it’s done out of desperation, but when these kids aren’t born into that, they still find it appealing. How in the world can that life be appealing?

People still in denial maybe? The culture is corrupt and gets its cues from the bottom, when the bottom has more influence no matter what you do it will be on downward spiral. I saw this yearss ago as I was more tied in with a tutor company and some coaching all thru the 2010s, even early 2010s the writing was on the wall, it didnt matter what economic background you came from these teenage boys felt the only way they could earn stripes was to be a certain way. I remember story of cops pulling up at house, I get a call from mother and she work very hard and make GREAT money to have kids with everything they want. Cop tryna talk some sense into them and they tryna act hard like they goons and its like breh, you lived in a gated community all your life, your reality is NOT like brehs from the hood.

 

[The Fade]

This is the sad and confusing part. We have kids who have money, but WANT to live a dangerous lifestyle. All the excuses are about money, yet when it’s there, the values are still lacking. The excuse is, it’s done out of desperation, but when these kids aren’t born into that, they still find it appealing. How in the world can that life be appealing?

They’ve done studies where people will dumb themselves down to fit in with a bigger group because everyone wants to belong. They’ve done studies on animals that will come up with efficient ways or methods for surviving but will choose less efficient ways to fit in with a group. This why taking kids out of high risk areas usually works. Also read in that Philly subreddit how Philly people who moved out the state with parents got peace and if you wasn’t on a certain timing in Philly you would be considered weird. It’s all about environment + people and falling to the level of your systems. This is why community is important. This is why marrying for community instead of just a big booty is important

 

[ogc163]

Only 12% of the community. Could be higher if we actually focused on taking over industries.

Seems pretty small, not sure such a small group can make a big difference. But I'm open to being convinced.

I'm curious what's the median wealth for this top 12%?

 

[Marc Spector]

I'm thinking of moving out of the majority Black suburb I live in. It is in the top 20 wealthiest majority Black areas in the nation. On the outside that sounds good. In reality, it won't be this way for much longer.

The majority of the kids are in gangs now, everybody smelling like they just hotboxed a pound, gunshots every other weekend, break-ins and robberies on the rise, rapings on the track at the community park, houses being shot up, teachers being hit with concrete pavers, etc.

I'm on the PTO, participate in the HOA, have volunteered for Neighborhood Watch, setup a studio at my house and invite kids over to give them a creative outlet, host fish fry and BBQ events.

It's frustrating, because I always felt like it was external forces, and if we can get to a place where we're able to hold each other up, we'd be fine. Well, I'm in that Utopia and this is where I'm at internally. I'm really conflicted about it.

I'll just pour a drink this evening and play some music and forget about it until something else happens in the news.

have you had success reaching any of the kids?