The Birth of a Nation (Official Thread)

SirBiatch

Prince of Persia. Stalked for daps
Joined
Feb 18, 2015
Messages
25,121
Reputation
-20,571
Daps
39,884
Between this film, Underground, upcoming Black Panther and even my short POND, I'm optimistic about where Black filmmakers are going in the next decade. I see people loving Ava Duvernay's stuff. You got Issa Rae doing her thing. Real talk, Black cinema is about to get interesting as a muhfukka.

And SirBiatch will hopefully be right there to experience it :myman:
 

Crayola Coyote

Superstar
Joined
Jul 20, 2015
Messages
27,103
Reputation
2,400
Daps
61,997
This aint a "Cac" or "black" or whatever thing, so fukk that. He probably raped that girl. He and his crew definitely put out flyers on campus with her image that harassed her as well.

And I want you to hold this standard for ALL cases in which the judgement do not go the way you want. Starting with George Zimmerman's acquittal.

"Probably" means a hunch and the court said he didn't do it. So take the L.
 

Crayola Coyote

Superstar
Joined
Jul 20, 2015
Messages
27,103
Reputation
2,400
Daps
61,997
I'm gonna have to wait until it comes out on DVD or online so i can skip through the scenes. I really do not like seeing black folks getting beat up and treated like cattle.
 

tuckgod

The high exalted
Bushed
Joined
Feb 4, 2016
Messages
47,150
Reputation
14,143
Daps
177,469
'Birth of a Nation' is a Hit With Critics, Against All Odds

Nate Parker’s film has been plagued with controversy but that isn’t deterring critics from giving it great reviews

Nate Parker’s “The Birth of a Nation” is a “powerfully affecting film” that “deserves to be seen” despite the controversy surrounding the director’s 1999 rape trial and acquittal, critics say.

The movie, opening Friday, has a “fresh” rating of 77 percent on Rotten Tomatoes and is getting hailed by critics for the “strength of the story, the themes, or the acting,” along with Parker’s performance starring in the film as well as writing and directing the drama.

“While the attention given Parker’s college sexual assault charge (of which a jury cleared him), and his controversial responses to it, are likely to continue coloring discussions of the movie’s merits, it should be noted that ‘Birth’ is an imperfect but laudable debut for a first-time filmmaker,” wrote TheWrap’s film critic Robert Abele.

Starring Gabrielle Union, Aja Naomi King, Armie Hammer and Penelope Ann Miller, this weekend’s opening of the Sundance darling is shadowed by a rape case Parker became embroiled in at Penn State nearly two decades ago that saw him acquitted on charges from a now-deceased accuser.

See 9 of the most raving reviews below.

James Berardinelli, Reel Views:
“‘The Birth of a Nation’ is harrowing, compelling cinema – perhaps not as wrenching as ’12 Years a Slave’ but not far removed. Although off-screen revelations about an event from Parker’s past may limit the movie’s awards expectations, they change nothing about the strength of the story, the themes, or the acting. The film stands tall on its own merits and deserves to be seen irrespective of the perceived failings of its author.”

Kyle Smith, New York Post:
“‘The Birth of a Nation,’ titled with an ironic act of cinematic jiujitsu that recalls the 1915 white-supremacist blockbuster of the same name, is a marvel of controlled fury by Nate Parker, who stars as Turner and also produced, wrote and directed this necessary and powerful film about a revolt by slaves against an evil white power structure. Both broader and deeper than the relentless and monotonous ’12 Years a Slave,’ it’s one of the few important movies to hit cinemas this year.”

Marjorie Baumgarten, Austin Chronicle:
“There are images, however, in ‘The Birth of a Nation’ that are so potent, disturbing, and visually precise that they will be seared into my memory for life. That’s no small accomplishment.”

Leah Greenblatt, Entertainment Weekly:
“Even as ‘Birth’ stumbles in its more overwrought moments, it’s almost impossible not to be moved by what he’s made: a flawed but powerfully affecting film by a flawed but undeniably gifted filmmaker.”

Chris Vognar, Dallas Morning News:
“Writer-director Nate Parker backs up this bold provocation with a measured but devastating movie that haunts the imagination and conscience. But ‘Birth’ is also, in its own unblinking way, a deeply spiritual film that takes the malleability of spirituality as its primary theme.”

A.O. Scott, New York Times:
“He has attempted something grand and accomplished something real. The movie, uneven as it is, has terrific momentum and passages of concentrated visual beauty. The acting is strong even when the script wanders into thickets of rhetoric and mystification. And despite its efforts to simplify and italicize the story, it’s admirably difficult, raising thorny questions about ends and means, justice and mercy, and the legacy of racism that lies at the root of our national identity. There is still a lot of reckoning to be done. ‘Birth’ is a messy business. And so is what comes after.”

Mike LaSalle, San Francisco Chronicle:
“If you see ‘The Birth of a Nation,’ do give some thought afterward to what it might have been, an action drama in which the villains got the wrong guy angry. This is something much more sophisticated, a two-hour walk in a slave’s shoes. It takes a condition that we have all thought about historically, politically and even dramatically and makes us actually feel it and live it. That’s a serious achievement.”

Dann Gire, Chicago Daily Herald:
“Parker’s project would be impressive enough as a first feature, but him being its co-writer, producer, director and star pushes it into an amazing achievement.”

Josh Lasser, IGN:
“With ‘The Birth of a Nation,’ Nate Parker has shown himself to be a confident, extraordinary filmmaker. He not only gets good performances from his cast, but has created a film that seems sure of itself, one that knows when to lean into depicting hatred, when to lean into depicting love, and when to cut away; when the look on a face is more important than the blood on a back and when it isn’t. Although not an easy movie to watch, it is a powerful one, and well worth the emotional investment it asks of its audience.”

:obama:
 

Crayola Coyote

Superstar
Joined
Jul 20, 2015
Messages
27,103
Reputation
2,400
Daps
61,997
STFU! I've given him my $9.50, I've told people in real life and on this board to support this movie. It doesn't erase that he had sex with someone who was too drunk to consent. I'm not blogging, Twittering or FBing that he should be ashamed of himself. I'm not even ranting about it here. I'm responding to what people are saying on a fukking message board. And I'm not obligated to just agree when people say stupid shyt about the nature of consent. But at the end of the day, Nate Parker doesn't need my approval of this incident to move on with his life because I don't interact or affect Nate Parker.

Get over it, he didn't rape her.
 

Offthegrid

All Star
Joined
May 5, 2012
Messages
1,892
Reputation
-130
Daps
3,188
Reppin
NULL
This movie had me reevaluate my life for bout an hr its crazy how black ppl have been treated like shyt & profit on dis land & still goin thru the same shyt the police our the fukin slave catchers the fukin slave masters n plantation owners is corporate America nba ncaa nfl fedex warehouses we out here slavin committing crimes for trinkets but scared to rebel to the opression the rise of the next black messiah is real dese cacs kno dat just look how dey act to a nat turner these cacs gonna off dem selves when dey hatit revolt movie come out
 

SirBiatch

Prince of Persia. Stalked for daps
Joined
Feb 18, 2015
Messages
25,121
Reputation
-20,571
Daps
39,884
To be honest. The dude that played Samuel Turner should probably win some awards for playing such a complex character. Knowing CAC Hollywood he probably will. :heh:

He was one of the strongest parts of the entire film. I was genuinely and pleasantly surprised.
 

Originalman

Veteran
Supporter
Joined
May 15, 2014
Messages
47,127
Reputation
12,140
Daps
204,757
Brehs.....i'm not saying this was the best movie ever but it immediately changed my life.

I walked out hurt, emotional, disappointed in myself because we've come so far and at the same time we haven't. I honestly believe this movie will inspire me to take a stance on something, something that will hopefully help our people progress.

This feeling i got from it was so powerful. I honestly can't even express how I truly feel yet.

:salute:brotha that means the movie did what needed to be done.
 

Originalman

Veteran
Supporter
Joined
May 15, 2014
Messages
47,127
Reputation
12,140
Daps
204,757
All the criticism I'm seeing is either from a bias reviewer who thinks Parker did it or don't think women have a big enough voice in it. Thought The Undefeated would hold a brother down.

White feminists really trying to play oppression Olympics out here.

If you are talking about ESPN undefeated then I wouldn't trust that site either because they are just an arm of ESPN.
 

satam55

Veteran
Supporter
Joined
Jul 16, 2012
Messages
45,163
Reputation
4,893
Daps
89,018
Reppin
DFW Metroplex

When Fox Searchlight bought The Birth of a Nation for a festival-record $17.5 million at Sundance, it seemed like a filmmaking fairy tale: Nate Parker, an actor turned writer-director-producer, had cobbled together $10 million (including $100,000 of his own cash) and turned it into possible Oscar gold. Of course, that narrative has curdled since January, asthe scandal over Parker's college rape charges has dominated headlines about the film, which tells the story of Nat Turner's 1831 slave rebellion. But the scandal has also overshadowed another fascinating element of the film's backstory: the many folks who shelled out to turn Parker's dream project into a reality.

Indie filmmaking is a rough gig. Without the backing of a studio or the handful of billionaires keeping our most beloved auteurs afloat, directors and producers are often forced to gather financing from as many places as they can find it. For Nate Parker, that meant some dozen different sources, according to The Hollywood Reporter's exploration of the film's fundraising process. The campaign was spearheaded by three producers: Parker; Jason Michael Berman of Mandalay Pictures, a company behind Wild Things, Sleepy Hollow, and Enemy at the Gates; and Kevin Turen, who runs screenwriter David Goyer's production company, Phantom Four. THR says the trio was able to rustle up 60 percent of the movie's budget, and the remainder was provided by Aaron L. Gilbert, head of the prolific Canadian company Bron Studios. Alongside Parker, Berman, and Turen, Gilbert gets a producer credit on Birth, as does longtime Spike Lee associate Preston L. Holmes.

But in addition to those five, a strange list of executive producers on the film helps tell an illuminating story of the forces that combined to fund the unexpectedly controversial film.

THE ATHLETES

One of the most interesting bits in the THR story is who it names as the first financiers to come on board: Tony Parker and Michael Finley.

For those who don't follow professional basketball, Parker and Finley are both NBA players: the former a champion point guard for the San Antonio Spurs, the latter a retired 16-year veteran. Parker previously served as an executive producer on two fairly low-profile indies, Meet the Blacksand Amateur Night, while Finley, through his company Follow Through Productions, has produced Lee Daniels' The Butler, as well as the Richard Gere vehicle The Benefactor.

The sports connections don't end there. Another of the companies that helped pay for Birth is Hit 55 Ventures, which currently has no other credits to its name. Hit 55 is run by former NFL linebacker Derrick Brooks (number 55 for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers), making his film-financing debut.

THE BUSINESSMEN

While investing in an independent film has a certain amount of artistic and social cachet, it is, at the end of the day, a business investment, and among the credits of The Birth of a Nation are a few names relatively new to film financing. Three of them, Ryan and Jill Ahrens and co-producer Ben Renzo, run Argent Pictures, for which Birth is the first project. Before getting into the movie business, Renzo was an asset manager trained in law while Ryan Ahrens was a lawyer and real-estate investor. Argent has two other major projects in the works: American Made, a Tom Cruise CIA movie directed by Doug Liman, and Hacksaw Ridge, which marks the return to film directing of Mel Gibson, a reported mentor to Parker onBirth and similarly controversial figure.

There's also Michael Novogratz, whom Parker has described as a "very close friend." Novogratz was a significant and well-known hedge-fund manager who shuttered his fund after enormous losses on investments in Brazil in 2015. A champion of high-school and national wrestling programs, former helicopter pilot in the Army, and buyer of Robert De Niro's Tribeca apartment, Novogratz had an outsize reputation on Wall Street, but film investing is seemingly a new field for him.

In addition to Novogratz and the Ahrens Pictures group, there are a few more: Mark Moran, a former video-game developer who also directs and produces; Jane Oster, who worked with Parker on the movie Eden; Jason Cloth, whose Creative Wealth Media Finance works closely with Bron Studios; Barb Lee of Point Made Films, a documentary film company that focuses on identity; Alan J. Stitt, a Canadian arbitrator who also executive- produced the Tom Hiddleston Hank Williams biopic I Saw the Light; orthopedic surgeon Armin Tehrany; and Alan Simpson and Andy Pollack, who both often work with Bron Studios.

THE FILMMAKERS

While Parker reportedly went to Gibson, Steven Soderbergh, and Spike Lee, among others, for help with The Birth of a Nation, none of those men's names are in the credits. Two other directors are: The first is Goyer, whose aforementioned Phantom Four played a major role in financing the project. The other is Edward Zwick, the veteran filmmaker whose credits include Glory, The Last Samurai, and the upcoming Jack Reacher: Never Go Back.

In addition to his own directing, Zwick is a decorated producer: He won an Academy Award for Shakespeare in Love, and was nominated for another for Traffic. The last time he executive-produced a film, it was on his son Jesse's directorial debut About Alex, which Nate Parker acted in. And when AFI canceled a screening of Birth due to Parker's rape scandal, it was Zwick, an AFI board member, who stepped in, moderating a Q&A after a showing of Jack Reacher: Never Go Back.

THE FALLOUT

Producer Aaron Gilbert, who says he cried during his first meeting with Nate Parker, told the Canadian newspaper The Globe and Mail, "I stand by Parker and I stand by this film." But he appears to be the only one of the long list of Birth's producers and executive producers who has publicly commented since the news about Parker's past broke wide.

For all of these people, The Birth of a Nation represents a financial as well as artistic interest, making their connection to the controversy complicated and sensitive, particularly because many of them are on record as saying that they became involved through the force of Parker's personality and conviction. That persuasive case likely didn't include discussion of his past rape accusation — but now, that legacy has become a significant part of the project they invested in.

04-birth-of-a-nation-producers.w529.h352.jpg

Jason Berman, Kevin Turen, Nate Parker, Aaron L. Gilbert, and Jason Cloth at Birth of a Nation's Sundance premiere.
 
Last edited:
Top