The beat for The cross is sooo fukking garbage IMO

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The story I heard was that Eminem was short on time when he produced "The Cross" and he didn't get to put his finishing touches on it. I think the song is classic, but I wonder what Nas would have sounded like on a beat like "Soldier" or "Patiently Waiting."

Also, someone remixed the song by adding Eminem's "Love Me" verse and it's fire:


i really liked the love me beat but shyt being able to paste his verse from there to here...on another em beat...lol I wonder if it could work with other em productions

are his beats so cut and paste that he could paste any of his verses on there...:heh:
 

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Are you suggesting that the linked 9th Wonder beat was attempt at 9th emulating an It Was Written beat?

For the record fukk It Was Written, and for periods of 9th Wonder career the same goes.

But you’re way off with that observation.
nikka first of all why are you say aggy :mjlol:

Second of all, I didn't suggest that he was trying to emulate It Was Written...all I was doing was joking about the fact that Nas' sped up vocals made his voice sound more like It Was Written and you just got really angry about that for some reason.
 

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nikka first of all why are you say aggy :mjlol:

Second of all, I didn't suggest that he was trying to emulate It Was Written...all I was doing was joking about the fact that Nas' sped up vocals made his voice sound more like It Was Written and you just got really angry about that for some reason.
Nah im not angry one bit.

I just misinterpreted what you said, apologies.

I still stand by It was written being Nas most disingenous body of work. Too far deviated from his preceding album and too much a&r/Stoute influence.
 

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Nah im not angry one bit.

I just misinterpreted what you said, apologies.

I still stand by It was written being Nas most disingenous body of work. Too far deviated from his preceding album and too much a&r/Stoute influence.
No problem, and I agree with that even though i love the album. He was clearly just pivoting to MobTales from a detached perspective
 

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No problem, and I agree with that even though i love the album. He was clearly just pivoting to MobTales from a detached perspective
Right.

There's obviously some standout tracks, but it's such a juxtaposition from his previous effort, primarily from an a&r perspecitve (as i said.)

Artists need to grow and offer new sounds every release, I get completely subscribe to that, and it's tired and simplistic to run the 'it's not as good as their first one' old rhetoric.

That being said, It Was Written was just too obviously conscious of radio and crossover appeal. It didn't fit with the pre existing brand/image that was established already.

But then again i'm not a major record label, and major record labels are there to make money first and foremost.
 

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i really liked the love me beat but shyt being able to paste his verse from there to here...on another em beat...lol I wonder if it could work with other em productions

are his beats so cut and paste that he could paste any of his verses on there...:heh:

That might be the main issue with Eminem's production. For the most part, it sounds like something he would rap over himself and you could put his verses on different beats without it sounding weird. His early production, anyway. The beats he makes now sound a lot noisier and they do have more musicality to them, but you can't just give them to anyone.

That's also why he tends to change the beat around when he's the feature, like on "Bang" or "EPMD 2." He wants to give the production more space so you focus more on him, but it just makes the beat worse.
 

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Strings in rap music is hit or miss to me

Because with the strings added the track and lyrics almost has to have that "epic" feel.

Like you have to snap on a track where you tryna have that orchestra vibe...like spittin spittin. Or a raw personal type track.
 

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True.

But it setup 9th to lace it us the real version of The Cross. :ahh:

I heard Nas was heated at this album.

I can't listen to it and never heard it in full because it seems fuxked up to take a man WHOLE album and replace all his beats because you think the original was trash ..then God's step son was well reviewed :mjlol:
 

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Amazes me that dude has bars like he does. But this is proof positive that he hs no rhythm. How the fukk you nod your head to this?
 
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