The average income of African American males between 20-59

[jilla82]

responses in this thread is why the matriarchy runs the black community

The women dont have time for excuses because they have to raise the kids...
the men spend more time trying to explain away their shortcomings than they do getting ahead

women by nature make excuses for those they love...
the men find comfort in being with these women

also this
the black community runs on a poverty mindset...
if you dont see it its because thats all you know

 

[Digital Shaman]

Alot of times it's just a matter of being in the right place to expose your skills. I started doing IT in a school but was very limited. I didn't have access to servers, switches or routers/firewalls. I knew what they were for but you don't really know until you're the one doing configurations and deployments. After 2 years I moved to an MSP for architects and within 6 months I was deploying Proxmox, Debian and making new domain controllers.

 

[RealCrownHeights]

That mentality existed with a segment of black women LONG before Kevin Samuels blew up.

Lmao literally, most black women I know hate Kevin Samuels and still think like that.

 

[RealCrownHeights]

What are some tangible solutions that induvial young black men can take to erase this gap though? Alot of people in this thread are saying Tech is oversaturated and overpopulated and they are hiring abroad, what are some other avenues. I know my company does not sponsor Visa's but we get a ton of applicants from overseas.

We know what needs to be done as far as a cultural mindset and shift and emphasis on education and values. But what advice for early 30's?

But yea, as someone who is from the hood and worked non profit in the hood post grad, this was easy to realize. Most people in the community I worked with were on government assistance of some sort and some refused to get certain jobs because they would lose some of the assistance. In fact, I didn't even know black people had or made money until I got to college and met "talented tenth" blacks with their great grandfather's names on the building and driving better cars at 18 then my mother my Freshmen year. All that to say is, at least in NYC, and I'm guessing to a lesser extent DC, Atlanta, these type of black people make good amount of money, or their circle is filled with those talented tenth people so their perception is out of touch, coupled with social media. Not realizing, SE D.C, Old National, East Harlem etc exist. It's out of touch, out of mind for them. Me, I grew up like that and still have family there and worked in there so like I said, the reverse was a shock for me.

 

[Biblical Goon]

So after slavery, Jim Crow, race riots, massacres, the War on Drugs, mass incarceration, redlining, and countless other obstacles, we’re supposed to out-earn groups who came to this country with little to no race-based hardships? We’re expected to surpass those who benefited from a 400-year head start, and whose social and economic systems were deliberately designed to keep us at the bottom?



Why are we the only group that’s been systematically abused, yet when we haven’t “gotten our act together,” we’re blamed for it? We haven’t even been allowed to stand up fully, and we’re expected to catch up—when in reality, we have hundreds of years of work to do just to reach where others are today. Meanwhile, they keep moving further ahead, and we’re still holding ourselves to these impossible standards.

 

[1LurkerChick9]

I don't have the answers but....

How do y'all not know this?

Like the other thread about how poorly black kids are doing in school?

Or the fact that children in America ,especially black kids, go to school starving every day and rely on free lunch?

America is the land of the Have and Have-Nots and Black folks have been a permanent underclass for a minute.

And if you're looking for the single "smoking gun" as to why that is, you are not thinking critically enough.

Complex issues have complex answers, though any discussion about the status of Black Americans not involving the discussion of slavery is a waste of time.

 

[Amerikan Melanin]

Never in my 20’s did I make that little pay. I wouldn’t even go to work for under 40k.

 

[Trav]

They forgot to account for what Coli brehs did wit the raw

 

[Lemons]

responses in this thread is why the matriarchy runs the black community

The women dont have time for excuses because they have to raise the kids...
the men spend more time trying to explain away their shortcomings than they do getting ahead

women by nature make excuses for those they love...
the men find comfort in being with these women

also this
the black community runs on a poverty mindset...
if you dont see it its because thats all you know

It’s telling that their FIRST reaction in this thread was attempting to dunk on women.

“But these bytches want ballers. Stupid whores.”

They can’t even confront that reality of their dire situation as a demographic without trying to attack women. Insecurity dripping everywhere. It’s sad.

 

[Uitomy]

i think I make a little above that, but mostly from being a photographer and a freelancer, and to be honest it feels like a miracle I can even say that. I prefer it this way because I have no cap on how much I can earn and I'm even willing to fly out to other states I have family in to work with clients, yet it hurts so damn much to make like 3-4k in one month, basically for art, which is hard enough to make money with, and half of it goes to rent. There's a certain darkness people in my demographic feel who are working harder and smarter and making more, but right when it's our time, inflation just fukking hammers us. I've been honing this practice for like almost 10 years now and it feels like I'm getting punished for being better damn near. But at the end of the day, the only thing I can do is make more money, so I'm learning more crafts to sell. If I can get my clothing and accessories, music, and YouTube going enough to make an extra 1-2k a month I think I can finally have enough to save.

 

[JT-Money]

Asian-Men

What is their secret?

Practicing group economics and being in position to hire each other and following through.

Black men in Corporate America are usually out for self. I've seen it way too many times for it to be a coincidence.

 

[RealCrownHeights]

Practicing group economics and being in position to hire each other and following through.

Black men in Corporate America are usually out for self. I've seen it way too many times for it to be a coincidence.

You really think the Tech ship has sailed for Black men due to outsourcing?

 

[42 Monks]

You really think the Tech ship has sailed for Black men due to outsourcing?

not at all

but when you look at how education is trending - the initiative has to become internal *immediately*. the handouts aren't likely coming and even if they are, it'll never be so substantial that the hands-off trends from this generation of parents and the last can continue either.

 

[getmoney310cpt]

Air traffic control industry is there for the taking my young

 

[ViShawn]

Practicing group economics and being in position to hire each other and following through.

Black men in Corporate America are usually out for self. I've seen it way too many times for it to be a coincidence.

I'm so thankful that my direct manager is an older Black man in his 50s. He's a data scientist and he is trying to mentor me in my role. Sometimes our 1:1s are him trying to coach me on how to navigate the bureaucracy of my organization and how to show my work. Other times he's assisting me with roadblocks of my day to day.

I think he feels like he needs to give back to brothers and sisters in tech before he retires. I'm fortunate considering I was so scared of the tech layoffs earlier this year and landing this role. My role also tends to be 175k+ commission so I'm fortunate but I want more of us to win.