The average income of African American males between 20-59

[Big Boss]

Do it

I used to do healthcare IT and marginal experience plus a cert is what got me into that field and making more than I had ever made before

i definitely will

im in my early 30s and no kids. i got plenty of time to study

 

[42 Monks]

if you're not developing skills *and renewing them*, then how are you going to compete and progress?

Guess you never heard of the FRENCH REVOLUTION

is this supposed to make sense? am i missing something here?

 

[Dallas' 4 Eva]

On the flip side, lot of electricians like to juelz about how they're desperate for new hires and then give you the
"ill get your name and number and get back to you someday"
"its been a good season...good year for us, we don't need new hires" (while I watched folks in my class get hired for them)
"try expanding your search , what else can we say"

Everyone where I'm at is desperate for help. I don't know where you are, but it sounds like you may need to change location bro.

 

[Wild self]

is this supposed to make sense? am i missing something here?

No other 1st world country does this. Being another Tony Stark or Peter Thiel for a paycheck above poverty is some financial injustoce shyt. fukk "doing for survival" when people of previous generations did less and got more.

 

[Roid Jones]

Those numbers

 

[42 Monks]

if you're not developing skills *and renewing them*, then how are you going to compete and progress?

Guess you never heard of the FRENCH REVOLUTION

is this supposed to make sense? am i missing something here?

No other 1st world country does this. Being another Tony Stark or Peter Thiel for a paycheck above poverty is some financial injustoce shyt. fukk "doing for survival" when people of previous generations did less and got more.

i really hope you're trolling badly because this is painfully stupid otherwise.

 

[Wild self]

i really hope you're trolling badly because this is painfully stupid otherwise.

Doing all this STEM shyt, only to live the same lifestyle of a mailman just 30 years ago is literally insane. Economically, doing so wont still lift you up from poverty. On a mass scale, the people need to stop being p*ssy and confront all the people fukking up the overall quality of life.

 

[jesc07]

All of it.

Just because you make 60K or over doesn't make you ambitious or a go getter. There's alot of variables involved. There's plenty of people who luck up into good paying jobs because they knew the right person and they got handed the position. I've met and worked with plenty.

Up until last year I made under 50k for 10 years and I'll be damn if someone tells me I wasn't ambitious or trying hard enough. It's fukking hard out here and there are invisible barriers in place for black men that make it even more difficult. And I know there's other dudes like me out there who tryna make shyt happen but they just got dealt a bad hand or have bad luck. So yeah I take that a little personal...

Preach. I was doing temporary/contract IT jobs when I first finished school and didn't catch on with good job until I was interviewed by two brothers...go figure.

 

[LiveFromLondon]

This thread is why I never really bother to read or follow the political threads on the Coli much. So much delusion and ignorance.

I live on less than the lowest bracket posted in the OP. It's easy to tell who on here has no idea what poverty even is or how complex its causes are. They think it's just an economic number or status outcome or a threshold for some statistics. When you've really lived through it, it's a transformative experience that changes how you experience the world forever. That bootstrap talk is for birds and the wicked. Nobody who's ever really been through some sh*t can take that kind of talk seriously.
Seeing the social world having lived through poverty or not is like in particle physics the difference between having a particle collider to draw data from or not. People who haven't lived through it can't speak intelligently on it. Pontificating rich people don't wanna hear or accept that though.

Life is more complicated than projecting what has worked in one's own case onto others' situations.

"Poverty, it ain't no joke." - Tupac

Believe that.

Does poverty also make you talk in circles to

 

[TheKongoEmpire]

i got plenty of time to study

 

[Dwayne_Taylor]

Stick a fork in all of them.

Corporations can hire STEM graduates all over the globe.

This. A lot of IT companies competing for gov contracts are able to putt in the low bid because they employ cheaper visa workers. Even the gov isn't a safe bet

 

[JT-Money]

This. A lot of IT companies competing for gov contracts are able to putt in the low bid because they employ cheaper visa workers. Even the gov isn't a safe bet

I was shocked by how many foreigners I saw working on government contracts. But all you need is a green card and you're golden.

Once these immigrants all get legalized competition for jobs will skyrocket.

 

[JadeB]

On the flip side, lot of electricians like to juelz about how they're desperate for new hires and then give you the
"ill get your name and number and get back to you someday"
"its been a good season...good year for us, we don't need new hires" (while I watched folks in my class get hired for them)
"try expanding your search , what else can we say"

It's like this in public relations too

 

[Biblical Goon]

We need more metrics of value that’s not tied to western ideals of success and value. Is it surprising to you that the most demonized race of people on the planet is struggling the most in a system not designed for them? They will destroy their own system before they allow us to thrive in theirs. We have so many historic examples of that happening but people in here act clueless to why things are the way they are.

 

[Marc Spector]

Finally free from work on my flight back home.

So, let me get the gut punch out the way: Black Folks (i.e. Black Americans/ADOS/FBAs) are culturally unprepared and unequipped to compete in the global economy. Full stop.

We are culturally inflexible, unstable and unmotivated to get after higher wages and more stable careers.

I am not saying that we aren’t hard workers, intelligent, or capable but we have no driving factors in our culture to push a mass movement of high achievers.

This happens because we have mo true community. Hegemonic, hierarchical communities is what moves the needle in the West.

We dont want to do the work to build one. We dont want to sacrifice ourselves to build and sustain the family unit. Not just women like the coli wants to blame. We, as men, have dropped the ball far worse.

Then the other half of us wants to completely deconstruct the system, to effectively take our ball and go home and hope and pray that the whole game collapses. Its not going anywhere. And other minority groups are raising THEIR BOYS to succeed in the game.

Without hegemonic, hierarchical communities we dont have a class of social climbers. Without a culture of social mobility, we have no cultural incentives to collectively posture our kids to be high achievers. Without that posture you get generations of low economic achievers.

Oh and we already arent getting reparations . But we especially arent getting any without decades of a collective community effort to influence the politicians.

Alienating the very political apparatus you need to convince by withholding your vote is quite literally the dumbest thing you can do.

Yall are right in some ways, The Democrats dont value our vote but thats because we as a community dont have the collectivist power to weaponize our voting power into tangible objectives. And the one time people in our community realize that, yalls demand is the most unrealistic tangible imaginable.

How about we start at building back up our communities with stable families and make the local politicians work for us?


(ps this is how the Mexicans and Asians have taken over the West Coast btw)