The American Problems and Solutions in Regards to Public Safety and Society at Large

[ltheghost]

Buyback program and raising the age for AR-15's to 21. Too many teenagers are getting AR's and shooting up places. Treat it like alcohol. Maybe add a tax on 5.56 ammunition. You don't need a 5.56 to kill a deer. Make higher rounds cost more. IDK. But we all know nothing will be done and we will see another shooting next week. It's hot outside...that's a good enough reason for the nutcases out here. Stay safe people.

 

[Shogun]

These shootings didnt happen until the Supreme Court changed the interpretation of the second amendment.

American political culture is rotten and to throw your hands up and say we can’t do anything is cowardly. We gotta do something.

Fair point.

 

[TM101]

Buyback program and raising the age for AR-15's to 21. Too many teenagers are getting AR's and shooting up places. Treat it like alcohol. Maybe add a tax on 5.56 ammunition. You don't need a 5.56 to kill a deer. Make higher rounds cost more. IDK. But we all know nothing will be done and we will see another shooting next week. It's hot outside...that's a good enough reason for the nutcases out here. Stay safe people.

A lot of these school shootings are young people with little life experience.
I think 30 is a good minimum age where people are mature enough to handle guns responsibly.

 

[shonuff]

If the age was 21 instead of 18. You can’t legally buy alcohol until 21 but this 18 year bought 2 AR-15s. It used to be 21 for handguns in Texas but Abbott lowered it to 18, he wasn’t happy Texas was #2 in guns, tweeted out to buy more guns

The AR is one of the most popular models of rifle

And there's literally 10s of thousands if not 100s of thousands of other 18 years old that purchased ARs

They didn't go out and slaughter people

I know dudes can't help but inject their own armchair psycho-analyzing and suppositions about what the kid was thinking

But at the end of the day - he knew he wanted to kill others when he brought those guns ...he passed the legal qualifications when are set by law ( since state law sets the standards for purchases ) so if he legally abided by the law tompurchase the guns how are more laws the answer? If he wanted to kill a bunch of kids and knew that ahead of time unless you're also saying that we also have to include mind readers as part of the purchase process I dont see how setting up more laws would have doen anything but delay what was coming ...

Its obvious he planned on doing this - way before he brought the guns weeks ago

So 18 or 20 or hell 25 if he was going to go put a shoot a bunch of people he was gonna do it if not with a rifle then with a handgun or any other means he could make available

Its just a false dichotomy to somehow say more laws would have made a difference when no laws were broken in acquiring the guns in the first place

 

[shonuff]

Buyback programs, raising the age of purchases to 21, annual mental stability checks, mandatory government level background checks etc. Anyone saying none of these things work can literally go fukk themselves. If it’s not worth it to even attempt saving childrens lives then your life ain’t worth protecting or saving either mother fukker.

I’m so tired of you fukking losers who think it’s somehow government overreach to make sure only the right people have guns and that not everyone should own one. Stupid sons of bytches how many people have to fukking die? What’s the number for people cosplay soldier on the weekend?

You do know that while those things may be ni e that owning a gun is a constitutional right ..



Just like voting- and if you said that someken had to be means tested to be able to vote you'd be doing the thing that Republicans are saying should be done as a tactic to eventually deprive people of the right to vote

You want to restrict one constitutional right but not another ? Sounds pretty inconsistent...

 

[shonuff]

A lot of these school shootings are young people with little life experience.
I think 30 is a good minimum age where people are mature enough to handle guns responsibly.

So if then if they can't be trusted to be mature enough to have a gun how are the mature enough to vote ?

They owning a gun and voting are both "rights" established by the constitution - you certainly can't say someone is not mature enough to exercise freedom of speech ...

 

[JJ Lions]

The AR is one of the most popular models of rifle

And there's literally 10s of thousands if not 100s of thousands of other 18 years old that purchased ARs

They didn't go out and slaughter people

I know dudes can't help but inject their own armchair psycho-analyzing and suppositions about what the kid was thinking

But at the end of the day - he knew he wanted to kill others when he brought those guns ...he passed the legal qualifications when are set by law ( since state law sets the standards for purchases ) so if he legally abided by the law tompurchase the guns how are more laws the answer? If he wanted to kill a bunch of kids and knew that ahead of time unless you're also saying that we also have to include mind readers as part of the purchase process I dont see how setting up more laws would have doen anything but delay what was coming ...

Its obvious he planned on doing this - way before he brought the guns weeks ago

So 18 or 20 or hell 25 if he was going to go put a shoot a bunch of people he was gonna do it if not with a rifle then with a handgun or any other means he could make available

Its just a false dichotomy to somehow say more laws would have made a difference when no laws were broken in acquiring the guns in the first place

I didn't say they were illegal purchases, I said 18 year olds shouldn't buy those weapons, the age should be bumped to 21. If it was 21, this would not have happened. It's a fact that states with stricter gun laws have lower gun death rates.

 

[NkrumahWasRight Is Wrong]

I didn't say they were illegal purchases, I said 18 year olds shouldn't buy those weapons, the age should be bumped to 21. If it was 21, this would not have happened. It's a fact that states with stricter gun laws have lower gun death rates.

Why even stop at 21 instead of 30?

 

[OperationNumbNutts]

In situations like these people want quick knee jerk reactions that historically don't work. Decades ago the NRA and other gun advocates blocked a bill that would give the CDC additional funding to study gun violence. I know it's not a quick soluation but it should be revisited so "solid" recommendations could be implemented by states.

 

[JJ Lions]

Why even stop at 21 instead of 30?

21 is more mature than 18. The laws think so, hence the drinking age being 21.

 

[OfTheCross]

So many solutions

 

[Hood Critic]

Take your children to church....that'll solve mass shootings.

 

[Godless Socialist CEO]

You do know that while those things may be ni e that owning a gun is a constitutional right ..



Just like voting- and if you said that someken had to be means tested to be able to vote you'd be doing the thing that Republicans are saying should be done as a tactic to eventually deprive people of the right to vote

You want to restrict one constitutional right but not another ? Sounds pretty inconsistent...

Shut the fukk up

This is Cac mamba level bad faith arguing

Anyone who believes that everyone in this country should be allowed to carry high powered weapons is moron and should be drowned for holding such dumbass opinions.

I’m sorry the ability to murder babies means this much to you, but the rest of us aren’t on board with it. I’m personally no longer entertaining you freaks and your shytty arguments anymore.

So if you own a gun do me a favor. Put it in your mouth and pull the trigger. Have a nice day a$$hole. I’m tired of you genocidal maniacs.

 

[Roger king]

A background check and a wait period is reasonable

 

[Godless Socialist CEO]

The AR is one of the most popular models of rifle

And there's literally 10s of thousands if not 100s of thousands of other 18 years old that purchased ARs

They didn't go out and slaughter people

I know dudes can't help but inject their own armchair psycho-analyzing and suppositions about what the kid was thinking

But at the end of the day - he knew he wanted to kill others when he brought those guns ...he passed the legal qualifications when are set by law ( since state law sets the standards for purchases ) so if he legally abided by the law tompurchase the guns how are more laws the answer? If he wanted to kill a bunch of kids and knew that ahead of time unless you're also saying that we also have to include mind readers as part of the purchase process I dont see how setting up more laws would have doen anything but delay what was coming ...

Its obvious he planned on doing this - way before he brought the guns weeks ago

So 18 or 20 or hell 25 if he was going to go put a shoot a bunch of people he was gonna do it if not with a rifle then with a handgun or any other means he could make available

Its just a false dichotomy to somehow say more laws would have made a difference when no laws were broken in acquiring the guns in the first place

“How would something the rest of the world has instituted work here” - a very intelligent person

Well for one thing if Texas had better gun laws this 18 year old wouldn’t have had one in the first place. He bought those AR’s legally when he turned 18. Guess which state just so happened to lower the age limit on gun purchases last year to make guns “easier to access”

Recent laws made it even easier to own and carry guns in Texas

Governor Gregg Abbott—an enthusiastic promoter of gun ownership—signed 22 pieces of legislation that made it easier to buy, carry, and own guns in the state.

qz.com