The Alchemist, Kanye West, Just Blaze.. Who's The Best Producer of The Three?

[dennis roadman]

On some real shyt though, I've never heard anyone ever compare Alchemist with Kanye..
Quality >>>>> Quantity. Being a producer and beat maker >>>> beat maker. Origination and influencing the game > not. Classics >>>> not classics. Wide Range >>>> Narrow Range. I can go on for days.


The only people i've ever heard compare the jew from beverly hills with someone like Kanye, Pete Rock, Dr. Dre, Premo, Rza are white "real/underground hiphop" squares.

Talk to more black people then, because everyone who likes hip hop fukks with alchemist heavy

 

[ManBearPig]

On some real shyt though, I've never heard anyone ever compare Alchemist with Kanye..
Quality >>>>> Quantity. Being a producer and beat maker >>>> beat maker. Origination and influencing the game > not. Classics >>>> not classics. Wide Range >>>> Narrow Range. I can go on for days.


The only people i've ever heard compare the jew from beverly hills with someone like Kanye, Pete Rock, Dr. Dre, Premo, Rza are white "real/underground hiphop" squares.

i dont know about all that.

"hip hop fans" always compare West and ALC since they dropped College Dropout and 1st infantry

i still fux with both of them to this day here and there

 

[Harry B]

Talk to more black people then, because everyone who likes hip hop fukks with alchemist heavy

fukking with Alchemist and comparing him to the gods of this production shyt is two different things. I fukk with Rick Ross, but I won't compare him to Nas, Jay, Pac and them

 

[Patrick Kane]

Talk to more black people then, because everyone who likes hip hop fukks with alchemist heavy

Yeah, I don't know what the fukk he's talking about. Almost everyone I know who's an Alchemist fan is black. None of my white friends are really huge fans of Alc, his beats are too grimey for them.

 

[spliz]

DJ Premier is 50 times iller than Alchemist, homie.


you be fukkin' up sometimes.


Al's lone album of note, Return Of The Mac, is maybe as good as The Ownerz...but not really.

Maybe in his prime but Al has that versitility ..and @ Harry B..as a beatmaker Al AND Just >>>>Ye...I don't know what u talkin bout u never heard nobody compare them to Ye...don't let ya love for Jay and Ye cloud ya judgment...as literal beatmakers they are better than Ye in damn near every aspect of beatmaking...digging the crates...chopping...flipping...drum sounds...drum patterns...all that...if I had to chose a producer without a big budget behind him I would pick them over Ye..they know how to do more with less...NOT sayin Ye is wack or anything like that...but the nikka been Dr Dre'n it for the last like 4 years...barely even making his own beats...

 

[spliz]

Yeah, I don't know what the fukk he's talking about. Almost everyone I know who's an Alchemist fan is black. None of my white friends are really huge fans of Alc, his beats are too grimey for them.

nikka is just a huge Jay and Ye fan so his judgment is fukked up...nikkas been fukkin wit Alchemist BEFORE Ye...

 

[Patrick Kane]

Wow, very close poll though.

You can't listen to Alchemist latest project, Russian Roulette and simply cast him as a "beat maker". He really crafted those songs together and stuck to a theme. He made an album with a Cold War Soviet Era backdrop HIP HOP and grimey as fukk. You gotta love that kind of creativity and it shows his growth as a PRODUCER. Not a beat maker.

 

[ManBearPig]

^^ i'm trying to look for a the video for I Love To Give You Light by Snoop Dogg.

Alchemist made me drool on that one

 

[spliz]

Wow, very close poll though.

You can't listen to Alchemist latest project, Russian Roulette and simply cast him as a "beat maker". He really crafted those songs together and stuck to a theme. He made an album with a Cold War Soviet Era backdrop HIP HOP and grimey as fukk. You gotta love that kind of creativity and it shows his growth as a PRODUCER. Not a beat maker.

The Alchemist - Kalashnekov Guns Feat. Guilty Simpson (Produced by The Alchemist) - YouTube

Al is another level PLUS he's more hands on than Ye..only thing he doesnt do is fukk wit orchestras n stuff...he would most likely finesse that too...

 

[Yagirlcheatinonus]

ALC>>>>>>>>>Kayne>>>>>>Just

 

[Harry B]

Maybe in his prime but Al has that versitility ..and @ Harry B..as a beatmaker Al AND Just >>>>Ye...I don't know what u talkin bout u never heard nobody compare them to Ye...don't let ya love for Jay and Ye cloud ya judgment...as literal beatmakers they are better than Ye in damn near every aspect of beatmaking...digging the crates...chopping...flipping...drum sounds...drum patterns...all that...if I had to chose a producer without a big budget behind him I would pick them over Ye..they know how to do more with less...NOT sayin Ye is wack or anything like that...but the nikka been Dr Dre'n it for the last like 4 years...barely even making his own beats...

Off yourself, what the fukk are you talking about? "My love for Jay and Ye". Write your sentences like a normal person. Spare me the effort, it's like trying to read a 5 year olds school work.

1. Just is very affiliated with Jay-z.
2. I said both Kanye and Just >>> Alchemist
3. if you want a producer without a big budget you get shyt like COLLEGE DROPOUT not a fukking average Prodigy album with 2-3 blazing beats.

The top reason to why I wouldn't compare them are
1. Alchemists lack of classics
2. Alchemists excess of mediocre material: Quality > Quantity: 100 beats a year is not impressive if they aren't A1.
3. His lack of influence, impact and importnace to hiphop.

He's still maybe #17-25 of all time.

 

[THE K-MAN]

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[Doome]

Yeezy..i say because sample wise k's beats seem to have more mood, k's groove is better than ALC n Just

 

[Tom Foolery]

The top reason to why I wouldn't compare them are
1. Alchemists lack of classics
2. Alchemists excess of mediocre material: Quality > Quantity: 100 beats a year is not impressive if they aren't A1.
3. His lack of influence, impact and importnace to hiphop.

He's still maybe #17-25 of all time.

I don't disagree with this, but I def. don't agree with this. Kanye (and Blaze to a certain extent) create beats to target the mainstream listener. They have to put that ear pleasing feeling and polish on their work they release. Alc is in a different genre he's not creating radio friendly beats.

 

[TheDarceKnight]

i dont know about all that.

"hip hop fans" always compare West and ALC since they dropped College Dropout and 1st infantry

i still fux with both of them to this day here and there

That's when I remember it starting. Phonte started a big debate on it. Lots of my friends did. That was 04 right? Yea that's when the debate started.