The Alchemist, Kanye West, Just Blaze.. Who's The Best Producer of The Three?

[muzikfrk75]

i wanna hear an album where alchemist finds the samples, just/alc collab on the beats and kanye masters it

That would be

 

[kp404]

Just Blaze by a long shot...his sound is too phenomenal...

Kanye is next, then Al....

all three are great, but Just's records stay with me and the replay value is just

 

[Harry B]

Dilla at 9?...ok...sure

5-9 is in no particular order, all too dope to put one over the other imo.

But being that Location: Detroit
your frustration is noted.

 

[Harry B]

I agree with a lot of what you're saying about people not knowing the depth of a lot of these producers work, but about the Hi-Tek comment. Hi-Tek and Alchemist were making the same style of beats in 1998. Truly. When Train of Thought dropped in 2000 it was very Dilla inspired and a lot of cats were influenced by Tek, and Tek is very underrated, even on here. To say Tek paved the way for Alchemist is crazy, because Alchemist was doing beats before/during the same time. They were making the same music in the same lane.

If you wanna talk about the two people that paved the way for ALC you gotta talk DJ Premier and DJ Muggs. Muggs mentored him and then ALC ghost produced on Temples of Boom, and ALC spent all of his time at D&D with Premier while Gang Starr was making Moment of Truth. Al's original style was a blend of Preem and Muggs, but eventually he found his own sound, and he's evolved it ever since, and is still evolving it now.

Once again not to hammer it in so deep but Just Blaze can do any damn thing with music. The guy could be one of the biggest dub-step or rock producers in the world if he were so inclined. Just Blaze was making functional video games and computer programs by the time he was 10.

When I said paved the way, I was talking about he made that underground sound poppin again like Kanye and Just brought back that soulfulness. He made classics and it influenced other people on the commercial level like Kanye and paved the way for other underground producers to get their buzz in the streets.

I'm not saying he influenced Alchemist or whatever, it's like saying Jeezy paved the way for Gucci. Gucci been doing what he's been doing, but he wasn't taken serious until Jeezy. There is more truth to the gucci/jeezy statement, while Hi-tek/Alchemist is just my loose analogy of the two.

My only problem with Alchemist is that he gets so much props cause he drops a lot of shyt. The same same situation as Currensy. He works like Kanye and them did 10 years ago, when they could make a beat in 10 minutes. And also his lack of classic full albums, lack of hiphop defining songs and on. A bit like Jadakiss with more material.

 

[spliz]

When I said paved the way, I was talking about he made that underground sound poppin again like Kanye and Just brought back that soulfulness. He made classics and it influenced other people on the commercial level like Kanye and paved the way for other underground producers to get their buzz in the streets.

I'm not saying he influenced Alchemist or whatever, it's like saying Jeezy paved the way for Gucci. Gucci been doing what he's been doing, but he wasn't taken serious until Jeezy. There is more truth to the gucci/jeezy statement, while Hi-tek/Alchemist is just my loose analogy of the two.

Either way ur WRONG as fukk about Al...u straight up belittled that nikka in this thread and its disgusting honestly...

 

[the rhyme king]

kanye west.

 

[jdagga]

All the white euro trash voting for alchemist. Racist foreigners. Its an american art form. Stay out of it.

 

[904]

I rock with Just.. His top of the line beats are just

I wish he did more full albums to showcase his versatility..

 

[Harry B]

Either way ur WRONG as fukk about Al...u straight up belittled that nikka in this thread and its disgusting honestly...

What the fukk am I wrong about? Maybe the Salaam Remi statement.
Besides that, he's in my top 20, he's not in my top 10 like most lists you'll find.
I belittled him by putting him in my top 20? Like it's leaving 2pac of your top 10 or something lol.

And I still stand by the fact that he doesn't have classic full albums like everyone I listed above him besides Just, that he hasn't influenced hiphop like everyone I put above him, that his classic songs would no be substantial classics in the discographies of the dudes I put above him.

If I would be comparing Kanye to Rza or Dr. Dre I would have a couple points to why Kanye can't fukk with them as well, but I wouldn't belittle him, just like I didn't belittle alc.

 

[call_me_step_daddy]

only whiteboys and mobb deep fans would pick alchemist,str8 up

the coli ain't real life

 

[Harry B]

only whiteboys and mobb deep fans would pick alchemist,str8 up

the coli ain't real life

I'm tired of these suckers, dudes opinions are always miles from the streets, the rest of the world and whatever the fukk good thing it's back to being busy soon. Worst thing is that dudes are just talking about his latest material and his most known shyt. I don't think a lot of cats have heard half of Alchemists discography. Like claiming that Dr. Dre is the best producer of all time when you only heard his singles between 92 and 99.

 

[TheDarceKnight]

I rock with Just.. His top of the line beats are just

I wish he did more full albums to showcase his versatility..

Just Blaze doesn't care that much about hip-hop anymore man. Can't force inspiration. I'd love it more than anything, but I would be surprised to get one more beat from Just this year.

Greatest Story Never Told proved that he can produce an entire album as good as anyone!

 

[THE 101]

Blaze's discog just ain't deep enough for him to be mentioned with Kanye and Alchemist.

Kanye's got classic albums that'll be rememered for years.

Al probably has produced more beats this past year than Just has done in the last decade.

It's easy to look consistent when you're dropping two beats a year.