The African Traditional And Diasporic Religions Thread (Santeria, IFA, 21 Divisions, Sanse + etc)

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Would like to know more on Nilotic religion.
Bismillaah ar-Rahman ar-Raheem
Al hamdu lillaahi rabbil ‘alameen
Ar-Rahman ar-Raheem Maaliki yaumid Deen
Iyyaaka na’abudu wa iyyaaka nasta’een
Ihdinas siraatal mustaqeem
Siraatal ladheena an ‘amta’ alaihim
Ghairil maghduubi’ alaihim waladaaleen
Aameen:mjgrin:
 

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Bismillaah ar-Rahman ar-Raheem
Al hamdu lillaahi rabbil ‘alameen
Ar-Rahman ar-Raheem Maaliki yaumid Deen
Iyyaaka na’abudu wa iyyaaka nasta’een
Ihdinas siraatal mustaqeem
Siraatal ladheena an ‘amta’ alaihim
Ghairil maghduubi’ alaihim waladaaleen
Aameen:mjgrin:
The don't even practice Islam.
 

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Do you guys wanna complie and African religious library for the Coli? And @Guvnor Can post it in the op?

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Here is what I have had any association with:

Person, Divinity and Nature: A Modern View of the Person & the Cosmos in African Thought (Karnac Philosophy)
The author, Chukwunyere Kamalu, was on AbibitumiKasa where he talked about the book. That's where I heard about it, I intend to purchase it.

African Cosmology of the Bantu-Kongo: Tying the Spiritual Knot, Principles of Life & Living, 2nd Edition
Dr. Fu-Kiau is a serious scholar. I haven't really gotten deep into this book, but the 2nd chapter I read first for free online about the Bantu-Kongo initiated conception of time and it blew my mind that this CP-time thing is a Afro-cosmological thing. I'm reading Mbongi: A Traditional African Political Institution and I've read Simba-Simbi which is a short but excellent read.

Ojise: Messenger of the Yoruba Tradition
Written by an AA who became a Babalawo in the Ifa Tradition. Fascinating read about what he could share at least in the process of initiation.

AFTER GOD IS DIBIA: Igbo Cosmology, Divination & Sacred Science in Nigeria, Volume 2, John Anenechukwu Umeh
Found out about this from the podcast of the Author(s) below and from the Igbo Cyber Shrine


How To Make a Negro Christian
Kamau Makesi-Tehuti annotates a series of pamphlets by pastor george colcock-jones about the indoctrination of christianity to the enslaved black population for the expressed purposes of increased servitude and docility. He also has a podcast that I HIGHLY recommend. His Journal also has exclusive essays on T.A.R/S (trad. af. rel./spirituality). if you have any type of podcast app it makes it much easier to deal with because BlogTalkRadio's navigation is garbage.

KUKUU-TUNTUM: The Ancestral Jurisdiction (pdf)
I really really enjoy the works from Odwirafo Kwesi Ra Nehem Ptah Akhan. There is definitely a "learning-curve" in getting used to the way this brother delivers the information, but the information is beyond golden. This particular book traces out the history of the characters in the bible/quran/torah vedas and how they are all b*stardized off of our different deities that were then weaponized against us. For those questioning the merit of the bible, read that. He also has a video/audiobook of this.

I really have learned more from that last author more than anyone, particularly because of his podcast (also on BTR) where he goes through at least one of his works at a time. His work specifically focuses on the western expression of the Akan spiritual system, but he aligns these deities between different West Afrikan systems, most notably Vodun and Ifa, because likely thats the majority of us over here.

I was surprised when he delivered the origin of the term "Africa" but then I luckily had a copy of The Book of Coming Forth By Day (the Egyptian Book of the Dead) where he cited the term. I looked and it was there. He also talks a lot about the divinity Ma'a, the male counterpart to Ma'at. Literally no one else talks about Maa and Maat. Again, last night as I was reading the Book of Coming Forth By Day, many times Ma'a is referenced by name in the mdw ntr, it is very very interesting as to why people haven't included Ma'a before, esp since he was present the entire time in stone...

Kilombo Restoration and Healing is a publication house by Axosu, HRM Agelogbagan Agbovi. He produce works in the same vein as Odwirafo, T.A.R/S works for us that were brought over here (North America) by the enslavement era. I think this is a huge point that we often overlook in getting into our right mind and spirit. I've purchased two of his books so far, they have been extremely thorough and inspirational. He more is doing work (as I see it) that is a step down the road from Odwirafo. Meaning, Odwirafo is delivering knowledge on how to find your T.A.R/S through divination and giving very thorough information to give context to what you may be receiving at your shrine/dreams/daydreams/Occurences and HRM Agbovi then codifies these Ancestral Transmissions, producing newer Holy Texts for us, once you've found where you belong.

The spiritual adaptations to the west is something I think (again) that we seriously need to think about. Odwirafo talks about it, the consumption of different plant/animal/mineral life here, the weather here, as made us here a distinct, but related people to us back home. Both of them, like i said, do excellent work in helping us adapt T.A.R/S for the future; the proper act of Sankofa.
 

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From the actress of the Spike Lee series she's got to have it who plays a Lucumi priest. Turns out she was really an initiate in Lucumi and she shares some tips..
10 Things You Need To Know Before Practicing Lucumí
i understand why but the the whole "feminist bruja" trend of the past few years is a bit disconcerting to me
nikkas still aint shyt even in diasporic religion lol:pachaha:
 

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i understand why but the the whole "feminist bruja" trend of the past few years is a bit disconcerting to me
nikkas still aint shyt even in diasporic religion lol:pachaha:

Deinitely super weird how throughout the whole t.a.r/s thing complementarity/reciprocity is the keystone, except in 201x.
 

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i understand why but the the whole "feminist bruja" trend of the past few years is a bit disconcerting to me
nikkas still aint shyt even in diasporic religion lol:pachaha:

Well why does it strike you that way?

Also I don't think its a trend for her. Reading the article she seems some what genuine to me letting people know it takes real work to be part of the religion and you have to put years into it. That seems to combat the ideals that many of the youtube brujas follow.

She even says not everyone is born with the gift and the article doesn't read feminist like either.
 

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Well why does it strike you that way?

Also I don't think its a trend for her. Reading the article she seems some what genuine to me letting people know it takes real work to be part of the religion and you have to put years into it. That seems to combat the ideals that many of the youtube brujas follow.

She even says not everyone is born with the gift and the article doesn't read feminist like either.
i'm not dissing the author or actress
(i might go actually watch the show now to see how they portrayed it; i stopped after two episodes)

its just a trend i'm seeing on social media amongst feminists. i personally think these girls are attracted to African and diasporic religions because of the association of patriarchy and misogyny in the christian church

and read #7 :mjgrin:
i support women but many times "fukk the Patriachy" is just code for "fukk nikkas [black men]"

i see all types of child of oshuns and brujas and witches all over social media and most seem to just be hypebeast types :yeshrug:

but what do i know :yeshrug:
 

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i'm not dissing the author or actress
(i might go actually watch the show now to see how they portrayed it; i stopped after two episodes)

its just a trend i'm seeing on social media amongst feminists. i personally think these girls are attracted to African and diasporic religions because of the association of patriarchy and misogyny in the christian church

and read #7 :mjgrin:
i support women but many times "fukk the Patriachy" is just code for "fukk nikkas [black men]"

i see all types of child of oshuns and brujas and witches all over social media and most seem to just be hypebeast types :yeshrug:

but what do i know :yeshrug:
True it is a trendy thing but at the same time what she said is valid with fukk patriarchy, when you look at lucumi they tried to remove the role of women and things like that so her saying that I have to respect it. It's not her saying fukk nikkas but fukk them trying to limit the roles of woman who historically have had a place in the religion before the rise of the babalawo. You see, in Cuban society the rise of the babalawo led to women losing a lot of their power and many people pushing patriarchy with women being on the bottom due to them marrying babalawos or seeking to do so giving up their own positions to make a long story short.

The people who jump into it because they are feminist who like ochun (that people lie and say is a prostitute or whore which is not true) and the people who are into it because it's cool to be a bruja won't really last too long. Many of them will come and go as fads do because this is not for everyone. There was also a trend of people jumping into Lucumi in the 70s but that came and went also so it doesn't bother me. The ones who end up sticking with it and dedicating themselves to it will still be here but many of them will go because everything will just balance itself out, they all can't fake the funk forever. On the bright side some of them will find their way back home.
 
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