The Afghanistan - Taliban Conflict

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I know Bin Laden was killed in Pakistan. What I was saying is that we went to Afghanistan to get him and go after Al Queda. Once Bin Laden was killed, we should have left then. Same outcome as now but years sooner. Without the Middle East policing their own, Afghanistan would have fallen no matter what
cause Pakistan was housing him. knowingly.

theres some spy games happening.
 

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Brehs making it seem like this was inevitable

Syria is still standing with Russian help

Syria was never as bad a Afghanistan. They’re also two completely different cultures. Syria was damn near like us before the Arab spring. They’re used to a United country, Afghanistan was about as decentralized as you can get. Tribe over everythang.

The govt of Afghanistan could offer $10,000 USD to each citizen and the rural afghans would be like “nikka, who the fukk are they to be giving me free money?! The better not come out here with shyt if they ain’t tribe!” Lol.
 

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That’s not how it works lol. I get the analogy you’re trying to make, though. The Taliban/haqqani are what we used to call mujahideen.

Before the Russians came a lot of them used to be the people that made up Afghanistan’s, police, army, Air Force, etc. after the Russians left many were dead. Many members grew up during the war and it wasn’t exactly the same group. They turned to any and all organized crime and used the country as a trap house.

They are a very large, trained, military force because of lessons passed down through member lineage. They fight very well, train regularly, and used military equipment and tactics. The real ones are so skilled and know how to teach those skills. That’s why it’s often over exaggerated that the CIA made them what they are. They are just experienced. Over time the members continued to change but they remain a huge military that doubles as a cartel like FARC but bigger.

We don’t just sit around and clip a few members. We ambush each other, we raid each other, both sides patrol and fight after contact. They are good at using reconnaissance to plan attacks that usually turn into nasty battles. In between all this, the IED’s, and then assassinating other afghans/Pakistanis intelligence is gathered through biometrics, chasing money, local info that local units act on To capture some of them or those that help wash money. They don’t always go easy and they can’t win that fight so they die in fights. It’s more Vietnam than narcos. Scores of these dudes die everyday for visibility (making it look hopeless to people watching it on TV here in the US).

They do what they do to eventually take back the country and start making massive arms and dope deals. They don’t care if you want to get to the root of how they got there. They’ll still kidnap you and kill you if they can’t get a good ransom for you, and they were like that before the US invasion.

You are correct in that we can help the locals who do little shyt like plant IED’s for them or help smuggle in weapons/smuggle out cash. The ones that kidnap girls or women to be trafficked in Pakistan don’t get that help though. They depend on the little money they get for a meager living. There were already pretty effective programs that got them jobs and or cash and it weakened the Taliban a lot, in our AO, because they had to start doing a lot of little shyt themselves.


Im am confused by this post lol. I wasnt comparing the taliban to actual drug dealers, just the tactics that we use on the war on terror to the war on drugs. You mow the lawn to make it appear as if your tax dollars are being used to win the “war” and to silence public criticism, when in reality nothing is truly being solved. Im very well aware that the taliban is a well trained militia haha.
 
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