The 2024 Baltimore Ravens thread

[Shamayw_33]

we always do a good job finding UDFA LBs so im sure one of these guys will stick and become a solid player


they still dont know how to evaluate receivers properly

the plan was to take one at 14,thats why the Hollywood deal didnt get announced til after we picked.They said the deal been done a month and half ago but we didnt want it public cause they didnt want anyone to know receiver was a need a 14

4 receivers ended up going right before our pick so they just too the safety

in the presser Decosta said alot of the receivers they had on their board went a round before he thought they would

just shows you other teams are valuing receiver more than us

had they took a receiver in round 2 instead of Ojabo this wouldve been a A+ draft

I almost agree with everything you said except about Ojabo. It seems like the Ravens look for a specific body type in receivers and look at what they should do well or should be able to do with their size (role players). It seems like they ignore all the other traits or what's missing from their skill set because they envision receivers to have one role. I think if they evaluated guys like any of them could be WR1 at any time, they'd have a better receiver room. Get guys that can be WR1 instead of a speedy deep threat, a big guy for the red zone, a possession guy and a guy who can block. In my mind and I might be wrong here, WR1 should be able to do all these things.

I think Ojabo had to be the pick at 45. Not only because of where he would've been drafted if he was healthy, his upside, but also because they desperately need pass rushers. They had receiver options later that they should've taken instead of a damn punter.

 

[PortCityProphet]

Slade Bolden (reminds me of Wes Welker, Cole Beasley type). If he makes the team, he'll be used on crossing routes over the middle to keep the chains moving or convert 3rd downs. If he doesn't make the team, don't be surprised if he signs with the Bills, Pats or Bucs.
Strengths

• Balanced, savvy route runner with top field awareness, setting up and selling routes beautifully.
• A savvy, natural pass-catcher with reliable hands and very good focus. Snatches the ball out of the air and shows the concentration to make acrobatic catches look easy.
• Often used on deep routes, getting separation down the sideline or over the middle on crossing routes by extending his arms rather than pure speed.
• Has a knack for getting open and is a quarterback's best friend - passers just need to toss the ball in his area and he'll come down with it.
• Does not have exceptional straight-line speed but takes advantage of open seams when his quarterback is on target.
• Does a nice job locating and tracking deep passes and is a legitimate vertical threat. Willing to go up and attack the ball.
• Has the strong hands any NFL wide receiver coach and quarterback would covet. Tracks the deep ball over either shoulder and brings in passes fluidly without breaking stride downfield.
• Does not possess top breakaway speed, though he's rarely caught from behind.

Weaknesses

• Has only average height and overall length. Lacks initial burst off the line of scrimmage and has more build-up speed than track wheels. Limited explosiveness and flexibility and will struggle to separate against pro defensive backs
• Does not always use his hands to secure deep throws, allowing the ball into his pads and chest.

Slade an ok pretty good little flat route and slant runner.
I dont know if he'll get any separation tho, he's not that fast and might not beat the press on a constant basis. And his hands aren't as great as that scouting report making them seem.
He can make the team tho and maybe give you some plays here and there.

 

[Shamayw_33]

Emeka Emezie
Strengths

• Hands and ball skills are good but inconsistent. He would best fit in the NFL with a team that already has speed at wideout and is looking for an underneath possession receiver and strong blocker.
• He is quicker than fast and lacks elite wheels to simply blow by defenders, but he has good football speed.
• Possesses a solidly-built frame with excellent toughness and physicality to power through tackles and work well in traffic.
• Has the size, length, and strength to defeat press jams. Can make the spectacular catch. A decent open-field runner with some agility and the ability to break tackles.
• Very soft, natural hands to cleanly catch away from his frame. Concentration is excellent. Has the lateral agility and strength to get into and out of routes smoothly.

Weaknesses

• Drops the occasional catchable pass in crucial situations. Long-legged receiver who may have troubles evading savvy NFL corners.
• Does not always use his hands to secure deep throws, allowing the ball into his pads and chest.
• Inconsistent high-pointing passes. Allows too many throws into his body when facing the quarterback.
• Not a sudden or dynamic athlete and is more of a one-speed guy who lacks natural burst. Lacking the quick-twitch movement skills to quickly change directions and create consistent separation.
• A straight-line athlete with only average speed, lacking the wheels to run away from anyone at the next level. Struggles separating in tight coverage.

Makai Polk
Strengths

• Good quickness off the line. Has size and quickness to get off NFL press.
• Good effort and technique as a blocker for his size. Can beat the press with elusiveness or physical contact. Runs crisp routes with sharp cuts.
• Does a nice job locating and tracking deep passes and is a legitimate vertical threat. Willing to go up and attack the ball.
• Has good body strength to squirm out of tackles with the coordination to maneuver his frame between defenders.
• Does not have exceptional straight-line speed but takes advantage of open seams when his quarterback is on target.
• Does not possess top breakaway speed, though he's rarely caught from behind.
• A versatile weapon, proving to be effective inside in the slot and outside on the perimeter. Makes plays at all levels of the field.
• He catches the ball with his large, soft hands and is tough. Deceptive jets and a smooth route runner.

Weaknesses

• Not a burner or consistent vertical threat. Has a lanky frame and will be overmatched physically by most cornerbacks in the NFL. Needs to be more competitive in tight coverage.
• Does not always use his hands to secure deep throws, allowing the ball into his pads and chest.

Devon Williams (reminds me of Boykin)
Strengths

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  • Does not have exceptional straight-line speed but takes advantage of open seams when his quarterback is on target.
  • Has a knack for getting open and is a quarterback's best friend - passers just need to toss the ball in his area and he'll come down with it.
  • He catches the ball with his large, soft hands and is tough. Deceptive jets and a smooth route runner.
  • Has good body strength to squirm out of tackles with the coordination to maneuver his frame between defenders.
  • A versatile weapon, proving to be effective inside in the slot and outside on the perimeter. Makes plays at all levels of the field.
  • Does not possess top breakaway speed, though he's rarely caught from behind.
  • A savvy, natural pass-catcher with reliable hands and very good focus. Snatches the ball out of the air and shows the concentration to make acrobatic catches look easy.

Weaknesses

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  • Does not always use his hands to secure deep throws, allowing the ball into his pads and chest.
  • Does not have elite speed to burn by defenders. Does not drop his hips to get in position while blocking and fails to take correct angles to his man.
  • Does not explode off the line of scrimmage and runs with long strides.

Trevon Clark
Couldn't find anything on him. He was a deep threat for Cal and he's 6'4" so he's freakish to be used as a deep threat with that size. Average almost 20 yards a catch. I'm gonna have to see what I can find on him.

Based off the scouting reports, it's a bunch of guys who struggle with getting separation. Ravens don't need any more of that.

 

[Son Goku]

they still dont know how to evaluate receivers properly

the plan was to take one at 14,thats why the Hollywood deal didnt get announced til after we picked.They said the deal been done a month and half ago but we didnt want it public cause they didnt want anyone to know receiver was a need a 14

4 receivers ended up going right before our pick so they just too the safety

in the presser Decosta said alot of the receivers they had on their board went a round before he thought they would

just shows you other teams are valuing receiver more than us

had they took a receiver in round 2 instead of Ojabo this wouldve been a A+ draft

I almost agree with everything you said except about Ojabo. It seems like the Ravens look for a specific body type in receivers and look at what they should do well or should be able to do with their size (role players). It seems like they ignore all the other traits or what's missing from their skill set because they envision receivers to have one role. I think if they evaluated guys like any of them could be WR1 at any time, they'd have a better receiver room. Get guys that can be WR1 instead of a speedy deep threat, a big guy for the red zone, a possession guy and a guy who can block. In my mind and I might be wrong here, WR1 should be able to do all these things.

I think Ojabo had to be the pick at 45. Not only because of where he would've been drafted if he was healthy, his upside, but also because they desperately need pass rushers. They had receiver options later that they should've taken instead of a damn punter.

I guess meanwhile they expect Lamar to stay upright for 17 weeks plus postseason while throwing to UDFAs (like he's AARod) and leading the number one rush offense with 1000 yards on the ground.


This thread is making me depressed already and it's not even minicamp yet. Imma unsubscribe and will see y'all next season.

 

[STAN JONES]

I almost agree with everything you said except about Ojabo. It seems like the Ravens look for a specific body type in receivers and look at what they should do well or should be able to do with their size (role players). It seems like they ignore all the other traits or what's missing from their skill set because they envision receivers to have one role. I think if they evaluated guys like any of them could be WR1 at any time, they'd have a better receiver room. Get guys that can be WR1 instead of a speedy deep threat, a big guy for the red zone, a possession guy and a guy who can block. In my mind and I might be wrong here, WR1 should be able to do all these things.

I think Ojabo had to be the pick at 45. Not only because of where he would've been drafted if he was healthy, his upside, but also because they desperately need pass rushers. They had receiver options later that they should've taken instead of a damn punter.

im not necessarily mad at picking Ojabo but that 2nd round pick shouldve been a receiver

if you're gonna take Ojabo then do it at 25 so you get the 5th year option and dont have to pay him early.You're already wasting a year of his rookie deal because of the injury

 

[Shamayw_33]

im not necessarily mad at picking Ojabo but that 2nd round pick shouldve been a receiver

if you're gonna take Ojabo then do it at 25 so you get the 5th year option and dont have to pay him early.You're already wasting a year of his rookie deal because of the injury[/Qanimus?

I didn't think about that!

How you think they would've addressed center?

 

[its2late2hate]

they could’ve

I didn't think about that!

How you think they would've addressed center?

by using the freed up cap space from the hollywood trade to sign JC Tretter

 

[BaltimoreTwilightMarauder]

 

[Rob's al Ghul]

What do y'all think of Likely? Has a nice highlight reel, but I was kinda hoping, especially since we were double-dipping at TE anyway, we'd have gone with Chig there.

Seems we don't really mess too much with Terps, though. IINM Torrey was the last one we drafted.

 

[STAN JONES]

What do y'all think of Likely? Has a nice highlight reel, but I was kinda hoping, especially since we were double-dipping at TE anyway, we'd have gone with Chig there.

Seems we don't really mess too much with Terps, though. IINM Torrey was the last one we drafted.

I like him

he’s basically a big WR

the other TE we drafted doesn’t look bad either

hes more of a Mike Gesicki/Tyler Higbee type of TE

 

[Shamayw_33]

What do y'all think of Likely? Has a nice highlight reel, but I was kinda hoping, especially since we were double-dipping at TE anyway, we'd have gone with Chig there.

Seems we don't really mess too much with Terps, though. IINM Torrey was the last one we drafted.

Likely is a beast. He's active as a pass catcher and is always working to get open. I can see him making a difference if the Ravens use him right. He can be more than a red zone threat.

I dont know what the Ravens have against the Terps, but I've noticed that too. Seems like they have a few colleges they don't care for even when those colleges are known for producing really good players at certain positions. Maybe Diggs' mom got the Terps coaches involved when he was slipping in the draft and the Terps made a phone call to the Ravens and they took it personal, idk, but something happen. I know for a fact Diggs' mom called Ozzie and let him have it and he didn't like that, but to take it out on the Terps as a whole If they didn't have Cross or Chiq on their draft board at all, their scouts need help evaluating talent.

Ohio State is known for producing really good DEs/OLBs and WRs. Washington is know for producing really good, borderline elite CBs. Penn State is known for producing really good MLBs. Georgia is known for producing really good, borderline elite RBs. Alabama is a RB and WR factory. Off hand, I can't remember them drafting anyone from those positions and from those schools. Do they get them in camp as an UDFA, sure, but I havent seen the Ravens draft them. I'll give them credit for taking olineman from Iowa and Iowa being known for producing olineman, but I can't think of any other programs they've drafted a player from that had a good reputation for developing certain positions.

 

[Rob's al Ghul]

I'm having trouble quoting, not sure WUWT but anyway @STAN JONES and @Shamayw_33 - yeah, that's pretty much what Vinny C. was saying earlier today...very athletic, can line him up outside but is also comfortable in-line. He's raw but he's got the potential/ability to be a good route runner. Sounds intriguing, no doubt.

 

[BaltimoreTwilightMarauder]

I guess meanwhile they expect Lamar to stay upright for 17 weeks plus postseason while throwing to UDFAs (like he's AARod) and leading the number one rush offense with 1000 yards on the ground.


This thread is making me depressed already and it's not even minicamp yet. Imma unsubscribe and will see y'all next season.

Bro our wr group is as good if not much better than the one we had in Lamar's BEST year. And our O-line is about to be legit. Plus its not even training camp yet; we can easily acquire another WR.

Yall are so gloomy in here that it's ALMOST like we didn't just have one of the best drafts in the league.

 

[its2late2hate]

lol exactly , this thread be sounding like a funeral most days. Ravens killed the draft. looking forward to the season.

 

[Shamayw_33]

They did kill the draft. I'm looking forward to this defense being feared again. Can you imagine Lamar being in 2019 form and the defense playing like the 2000 defense?

Well, maybe the defense won't be that good

Still though, I think these young defenders they drafted and the guys already on the roster, have potential to be great and hopefully make some history