You mean the same league where fukking Gio Gonzalez and AJ Burnett look dominant?
Are you telling me Gio wasn't good his last two years in the AL? Won 15 games both years, ERA under 3.3 both years, 170+ so's, that Gio Gonzalez?
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Are you telling me Gio wasn't good his last two years in the AL? Won 15 games both years, ERA under 3.3 both years, 170+ so's, that Gio Gonzalez?
The War Report
NewNewYork
Decent but by no means was he dominant like he looks like in The NL.
AJ peripherals werent bad last year. I never liked that trade, I dont think he wouldve been nearly as good with the Yanks obviously but we got nothing and the sole purpose was to save 5 million and the yanks clear 500 mill every season, id rather him sit on the bench and do nothing
Also Kuroda is putting up his best year in the AL so it cant totally be placed on AL and NL. Yeah NL is better but you dont from medicore to cy young just by changing leagues.
VegetasHairline
Veteran
This AL/NL debate is nonsense. Wanna get rid of the nonsense? Either, get rid of the DH in the AL and have the pitchers hit there as well or add the DH to the NL. That's the big discrepancy between the 2 leagues.
That's expected though. You go here to a lineup without the DH, your numbers are more than likely going to look better.
i honestly dont give a shyt if they go full DH. i think the sentiment that National League baseball requires "much more" strategy is absolute bullshyt, and im sick of watching hitters bunt strike 3. Plus, I've seen way too many "he doesn't have a position" players come through my team's system
The War Report
NewNewYork
Kuroda's numbers pretty much stayed in line with his numbers in the NL. That's a testament to his skill as a pitcher.
The National League is the only league in professional baseball that doesn't use a DH
I'm against the DH, it really does take strategy out of the game. There's rarely a double-switch with the DH, there's no "do I leave this pitcher in one more inning knowing he's batting 2nd next half inning," and it further diminishes the work that pitchers these days do.
The DH was installed because the AL sucked at hitting. Literally. It was basically a gimmick. Leave that shyt in the AL for those over the hill players that are trying to add 2 more years to their careers.
If you can't hit AND field ...
. We've been doing that since Little League. (or RBI Baseball in my case, lol)the double switch argument is so played out though. who gives a fukk. How does the DH diminish what the pitcher does? if anything, it could extend their innings pitched... what they get paid to do. once they get signed, pitchers don't work on their hitting as much, most of them are down right feeble. sick of seeing it.
And i understand pitchers are easy outs for other pitchers, but i dont care.
And i understand pitchers are easy outs for other pitchers, but i dont care.
The War Report
NewNewYork
Pitching is a specialized position in Major League, so I don't need to see professional pitchers trying to hit and run the bases unless they're putting in the same amount of time and dedication as they do with their craft. It's already hard enough to pitch at a high level without the distraction of hitting a baseball. Now would be the time to implement the DH in the NL since they've enacted interleague play for the whole season in 2013.
The double-switch is strategy, so yes, the NL game requires more strategy. And if a pitcher can't hit, then it diminishes what they can do as a baseball player.
The NL game is waaay more interesting (to me). NL is about moving runners over, hitting the ball to the opposite field, etc. AL is about power numbers.
NL teams aren't going to spend $5 million a year on a DH. But then again, with the interleague play for the whole season, it is a possibility.
They're at such a disadvantage 'cause they're sending out the backup IF to DH and the AL team has a 30+ hr guy as their DH.exactly. further proof it should be abolished. if youre saying thats proof it has moved on I disagree. the reason imo it hasnt is cause of the old baseball writers and they dont care about minor leagues or japanese leagues or whatever. Theyre holding onto to that NL pitcher hitting and when you ask most theyd rather take the DH away from the AL. Shiiit they wont even vote a DH as MVP or vote into the Hall of fame. (thought hat will change cause theyre on David Ortiz dikk)