Terence Crawford vs Errol Spence Posts Super Thread (Uppin 4 ol times sake))

[reservoirdogs]

How is Crawford making dumb career decisions? This dude is proving to be the master of maximizing earnings while minimizing risks. He’s been able to craft a hall of fame career out of this approach.

In a way you're right but for the bigger risk, he would get even more, logically. I also think he's HOF and Spence too but if they won't fight each other their reputation might be forever stained in the eyes of the public. How you are remembered is important imo if we are talking about athletes or any public figure, really.

 

[theflyest]

In a way you're right but for the bigger risk, he would get even more, logically. I also think he's HOF and Spence too but if they won't fight each other their reputation might be forever stained in the eyes of the public. How you are remembered is important imo if we are talking about athletes or any public figure, really.

I’m just saying he’s managed his career brilliantly for what he’s trying to accomplish.

How you’re remembered doesn’t matter if you’re slurring your words and can barely communicate.

 

[R=G]

why do you all play dense about Spence wanting to be Undisputed?


Agenda...

 

[Black_Jesus]

Crawford is making dumb career decisions, no doubt, with that said Spence was never in a hurry to fight him either, let's be honest about it.
Both guys are a disappointment in this regard.

What's dumb about his decisions.. who should be his next opponent that's available?

 

[Black_Jesus]

The casuals dont know about Fulton vs Fulton, thats why that fight is easier to make

It was easy to make because both wanted to fight.. you didn't have Fulton tell Inuoe to clean his side of the street followed by a guaranteed offer of $0 with 35% backend

 

[reservoirdogs]

What's dumb about his decisions.. who should be his next opponent that's available?

The money fights at 147/154 were/are at PBC for some time. I’m blaming PBC too to be fair but Bud really made it more difficult for himself by resigning with TR and now closing to GBP. GBP is at even worse terms with Haymon than Arum. He gets to fight Vergil if he goes to GBP, who, other than him?
The PBC side wearing thin at 147 now but still, they have a hold on 3 belts and the biggest name in the division as of now.

 

[Black_Jesus]

The money fights at 147/154 were/are at PBC for some time. I’m blaming PBC too to be fair but Bud really made it more difficult for himself by resigning with TR and now closing to GBP. GBP is at even worse terms with Haymon than Arum. He gets to fight Vergil if he goes to GBP, who, other than him?
The PBC side wearing thin at 147 now but still, they have a hold on 3 belts and the biggest name in the division as of now.

Its easy to use hindsight 20 logic to look back and say someone shoulda did this or that instead. You can do this with anything.. But from Crawford's point of view, were the money fights really at PBC at that time?? You gotta think about when he signed that ESPN deal that he was paid a higher guarantee than any welterweight at PBC.$3-4m regardless of the opponent and the purse continued to go up.. AND there was a $1M Spence clause. Thats why Arum is still pissed at Crawford because of how much money he got put the deal.

Also you have to take account that Arum and Haymon just put on the biggest ppv in history a couple yrs prior. Right after that they both settled that lawsuit and came to agreements.. Crawford was supposed to predict he would get frozen out for 3 years and PBC welters in his division would use Arum, ESPN, imaginary sides of the street as excuses to not make the fight? bytch nikkas calling his belt the wbNO belt or telling him they rather milk a side of the street 1st..

The fact that after he left TR Nov 2021 and shyt still ain't get popping should tell you Crawford made the right choice years ago.. The issue is you have boxing fans that stan promotional entities and networks so the narritive became blame Crawford for any and everything cause he aint sign with PBC.. which is some BS

Right now PBC is about to lose 2 of those belts in the near future since Spence can't make weight anymore and satisfy mandatories.. GBs Virgil Ortiz is on deck for the WBC and WBA when he gets passed Stanionis which means GB will likely be in possession of 3 belts 2024.. Looks to me like Crawford positioned himself correctly

 

[desjardins]

The fact that after he left TR Nov 2021 and shyt still ain't get popping should tell you Crawford made the right choice years ago.. The issue is you have boxing fans that stan promotional entities and networks so the narritive became blame Crawford for any and everything cause he aint sign with PBC.. which is some BS

It was a ridiculous argument from the gate cause it was "fans" essentially trying to justify in house politics
TR and PBC managed to come together on multiple fights during that span and still doing so as they just agreed to a big co promotion but somehow that fight was impossible to make cause of "sides of the street"

Add on the fact PBC execs immediately started trying devalue the fight soon as Bud became a free agent, presented a fight offer so bad even PBC stans thought it was fake, and shown zero interest in signing or pursuing him and it's clear they just ain't pressed to make the fight for whatever reason

 

[Jerz]

lol easier route was to confiscate the other belts on pbc side.. its easier to make those fights without the politcs..

thats common sense...spence got the 3 belts..

the more spence showed he was back.. the more bud started screamin i dont need spence ..the fight wont happen...he needs me


hell scream that shyt til his next fight...

he wins then its lets go spence...



look at the politics now..

also note..

porters belt and manny/ugas belt was their to be taken..

did bud make an attempt..to get atleast one..or was he content holdin to the wbo...

why didnt he position himself to become spence mandatory

Nah. Anyone can watch the video, and see what it really was. Crawford said to Spence "You told me get a belt, now I got one, wasup." Spence response " Shawn Porter got one too, why not take the easy route, and knock Shawn Porter out." He was not talking about the fight being easier to make. He was talking "knocking out" the easier opponent

 

[shopthatwrecks]

Nah. Anyone can watch the video, and see what it really was. Crawford said to Spence "You told me get a belt, now I got one, wasup." Spence response " Shawn Porter got one too, why not take the easy route, and knock Shawn Porter out." He was not talking about the fight being easier to make. He was talking "knocking out" the easier opponent

he was talkin bout the easier route.. hell bud even said u smartt..''

 

[NormanConnors]

Risk losing to Crawford - or stack my bread up, fighting bums like Keith Thurman

Thurman is far more dangerous than Avanesyan.

 

[Black_Jesus]

Thurman is far more dangerous than Avanesyan.

far more dangerous?? Based off what?? Going life n death with Josesito Lopez and getting whooped by a 42 year old Senator? 4 yrs ago?? Not getting a stoppage since 2015??

 

[JP_614]

far more dangerous?? Based off what?? Going life n death with Josesito Lopez and getting whooped by a 42 year old Senator? 4 yrs ago?? Not getting a stoppage since 2015??

Thurman came on strong in those late rounds vs manny. He’s a former champion. Y’all keep tearing down fighters to big up another is not the move. I think Thurman had better footwork than Avanesyan. He has more power than Avanesyan. He has a better chin than Avanesyan. He also has better ring IQ.

 

[Tflasha]

Crawford a whole duck and nikkas in here trying to revise history like the whole boxing world didn't see this man duck Spence to fight quagmire

 

[Black_Jesus]

Thurman came on strong in those late rounds vs manny. He’s a former champion. Y’all keep tearing down fighters to big up another is not the move. I think Thurman had better footwork than Avanesyan. He has more power than Avanesyan. He has a better chin than Avanesyan. He also has better ring IQ.

Thurman coming strong in the 2nd half of a fight he lost and got dropped vs a 42 yr old Manny in 2019 is supposed to mean something in 2023??

You think Thurman had all this shyt better than Avanesyan, cool.. But the key word in your post is "HAD". When you nikkas be talking about Thurman is better at this or that, undertsand yall are stuck in the past.. Spence not fighting the 2016 version of Thurman.. nor is he fighting Thurman at 147.. Dont tell me about Thurman having all this power and he ain't got a stoppage since Callazo way back in 2015. If his ring IQ is so much better then he would be able to stop a 140 Marrio Barrio or a Josesito Lopez instead of getting hurt in both those fights