Espinoza already explained that Gervonte Davis doesn’t get a garuntee. Historically, Floyd didn’t get garauntees. I don’t understand what’s hard to understand about what went on. Doesn’t make since that PBC wanted Thurman from jump. They kept Spence on the shelf the last half of the year in 2022 just to fake a negotiation? I’m a boxing fan, I like to see good fights. If your happy with Bud’s competition level, I’m not going to dispute you. But one fighter has a history of taking tough fights and the other fought Amir Kahn while champion at welterweight. Question for you. Tell me how many ppv would need to be sold for Bud to make 15 mil costing $80 at 35%. Then tell me if Bud has ever even sold half that much. When you do the math, you’ll see why no guarantee was offered.they wouldn't agree to pay the nikka $1 dollar upfront and he would only recieve 35% back end.. Crawford actually agreed to it but then PBC drug their feet when it came to anything Bud asked for in return...PBC was the one negotiating in bad faith from jump.. Now Haymon got Espinoza trying to clean the shyt up while contradicting himself and getting caught in lie after lie.. Spence vs Thurman was always the fight they wanted instead
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Black_Jesus
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Did you do the math like I asked? I’m a fan of the sport, not fighters. One fighter hasn’t had a substantial fight in 3 years. Yet has convinced a small, dedicated faction of people that he is the best. Don’t say it, prove it in the ring. Like I said, If you’re happy with Bud’s competition level, you deserve the sh*tty fights he’s giving you
Yall gotta place these cats on ignore, they dont make good fairh arguments its literally all just trolling
Black_Jesus
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Nope, didn't do anything you asked because I stopped reading after you claimed Floyd never got a guarantee. That was the proof I needed to know you're a casual that obviously just started watching Boxing a couple years ago if you believe that.. Not even worth going back n forth with you if you can be so easily be fed the lines of bullshyt and contradictions by Stephen Espinoza... If you need a math problem for why Crawford should get more than $0 guaranteed for the biggest fighr in boxing then I will pray for you.. You go do the math and explain how many ppvs Bud need to sell at $80 for 35% to get then $10M BLK Prime gave him for for his fight vs Avenysean
desjardins
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No they weren’t , they were all on the pbc side
And a champion can’t be another champions mandatory, all unifications need to be negotiated
Crawford was being iced out
Only seasonable criticism is that Bud should have signed with pbc
But looking back it’s clear that the TR offer was too good to turn down and zero evidence pbc even extended an offer anyway
Even now that he’s a free agent pbc execs shyt on him on record and don’t seem interested in signing him
Yea they really dumb as shyt. Will take anything pbc says as fact even if it makes zero sense
Then when it’s contradicted or exposed as a lie just pivot with the new narrative
The fact Espinoza said that guarantee shyt with a straight face when you can just google random pbc ppv headliner purses and see all the guarantees announced well in advance
Crazy thing is pbc don’t have to worry AT ALL about looking like hypocrites when they give Thurman, Spence, Benavidez, plant etc guarantees in their next fight cause the Stans will just pivot and come up with some reason why it makes sense this time
I never said Floyd “never”got garauntees. Espinoza said that he didn’t receive them with Showtimes business model. And Floyd hasn’t disputed that. I also gave you a scenario where a limited garauntee could be given based on sales projections. I’m stupid but you can’t do math to either figure out a promoter is losing money or laundering it with BLK prime giving Bud 10 mil. Aaron Pryor lived on my street, uncles knew Cassius Clay. Enjoy Bud vs Broner next
Black_Jesus
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I dont give AF what lie Espinoza says in the media to justify big fights falling through.. Their business model allowed for plenty of other fighters to get guarantees.. Floyd had a $32M guarantee for 6 fights.. If you hadn't just started watching Boxing a couple years ago you would know this instead of being this gullible idiot quoting what Espinoza says as the gospel when he's been caught in lie after lie after lie. You can't give me no scenarios because There is no precedence for a fight of this magnitude where the fighters get no guarantees.. You're just repeating stupid shyt year from random Soence dikk pulling youtubers
you seem triggered. You right, you know more about boxing than the people that run the shows.
malbaker86
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Lmaoooooooooo
reservoirdogs
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Crawford is making dumb career decisions, no doubt, with that said Spence was never in a hurry to fight him either, let's be honest about it.
Both guys are a disappointment in this regard.
See Inoue vs Fulton... One with TR, the other with PBC, seems like they both want it and that we will get it. Sometimes it's just that simple, never heard either guy talking about beating their respective "side of the street" first or asking about the marketing budget and stuff...
Both guys are a disappointment in this regard.
See Inoue vs Fulton... One with TR, the other with PBC, seems like they both want it and that we will get it. Sometimes it's just that simple, never heard either guy talking about beating their respective "side of the street" first or asking about the marketing budget and stuff...
why do you all play dense about Spence wanting to be Undisputed?
How is Crawford making dumb career decisions? This dude is proving to be the master of maximizing earnings while minimizing risks. He’s been able to craft a hall of fame career out of this approach.
malbaker86
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The casuals dont know about Fulton vs Fulton, thats why that fight is easier to make
reservoirdogs
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I think it's also because they don't want to fukk around for years "building it"
