Terence Crawford vs Errol Spence Posts Super Thread (Uppin 4 ol times sake))
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desjardins
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inoue fulton about to get guarantees fighting on espn
tank and garcia just got guarantees
but for some reason they can only structure a bud spence fight with $0 guaranteed money
saying he was blindsided by Crawford taking another fight while also acknowledging Crawford was negotiating for months and there were several issues he had with the offer they didn't resolve
so yall mad he was smart enough to have a backup option after seeing the trash offer yall wouldn't budge on for months, like pbc didn't have the thurman fight in the tuck all along
do you know who Crawford just fought in December lol? I've moved on from even caring about this fight but you gotta realize how absurd you sound.Risk losing to Crawford - or stack my bread up, fighting bums like Keith Thurman
What's Crawford fighting that dude- got to do with the fact that Spence been giving him the run around for yrs, and his team never wanted the Crawford fight. Remember when Spence told Crawford " Porter got a belt too, why wouldn't I take the easier route."
ah I see you're a bot, take careWhat's Crawford fighting that dude- got to do with the fact that Spence been giving him the run around for yrs, and his team never wanted the Crawford fight. Remember when Spence told Crawford " Porter got a belt too, why wouldn't I take the easier route."
Some of us see thru the BS. "I'm not fighting Crawford next, bc of my latest car accident." He healthy enough to fight Thurman tho. Response to Crawford legacy fight. "Forget legacy, its all about getting that money." They going up to 154 to sell big fights against Fundora, etc. Of course Crawford gon go grab that 10 mill. They don't really want the fight, never did
desjardins
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Doesn't seem like they are actively pursuing the fight.
Espinoza said if Crawford comes back to negotiate it's basically going to be the same deal he already rejected
They got the Thurman fight in the tuck and the mandatory defenses after that....or 154
Made it seem like Spence just had to clean up his side of the street and Crawford had to leave TR and it was on and popping. Soon as that happened it was "no one is going pay for this fight, it's not that big a fight"
Why would Spence and PBC negotiate with Crawford again when he strung them along for 6 months just to leverage those negotiations to fight another opponent? Negotiate in bad faith the first time and expect a second chance? What kind of faulty logic is that. Fact is Spence always had more options than Bud and now is choosing to exercise those options.Doesn't seem like they are actively pursuing the fight.
Espinoza said if Crawford comes back to negotiate it's basically going to be the same deal he already rejected
They got the Thurman fight in the tuck and the mandatory defenses after that....or 154
Made it seem like Spence just had to clean up his side of the street and Crawford had to leave TR and it was on and popping. Soon as that happened it was "no one is going pay for this fight, it's not that big a fight"
inoue fulton about to get guarantees fighting on espn
tank and garcia just got guarantees
but for some reason they can only structure a bud spence fight with $0 guaranteed money
saying he was blindsided by Crawford taking another fight while also acknowledging Crawford was negotiating for months and there were several issues he had with the offer they didn't resolve
so yall mad he was smart enough to have a backup option after seeing the trash offer yall wouldn't budge on for months, like pbc didn't have the thurman fight in the tuck all along
He also said that the guaranteed money is a new thing over the last 3 years and that money is deducted from the ppv purse split. So if Fighter A has an established history of selling 150k ppv buys, you can give a guarantee base on say 100k comfortably to that fighter and the fighter will still receive the remaining backend on anything over 100k. Bud wanted a 15 mil guarantee but doesn’t have a history of ppv sales that would justify that number. So Pbc says, you want 15mil, ok no guarantee, just backend money on the percentage split of ppv buys. If the fight sales what Crawford believes, he’d get his 15mil. But if not, pbc and showtime aren’t losing money. Makes sense to me
desjardins
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Breh we know guaranteed money existed (and was common) prior to 3 yrs ago, yall really be eating up whatever these ppl say. Tyson was getting guaranteed money in the early 90s never mind all the PPV bouts with guaranteed money since Oscar v Floyd including multiple from PBC in this era alone
What are these PPV fights where the headliners got zero guaranteed money? generally curious.
and where is this $15mil coming from? A misinterpreted Ugas quote or something else? And his ppv split was 30% iirc so what kind of counteroffer is that if he really expected $15m
For 5 yrs people juelzed about why PBC can't cross the street cause Arum would only offer a trash deal and here Espinoza is telling you out his own mouth the best they can do is $0 guarantee with a a fraction of the backend (less than 1/3) and somehow Crawford not accepting that is him stringing them along
Black_Jesus
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they wouldn't agree to pay the nikka $1 dollar upfront and he would only recieve 35% back end.. Crawford actually agreed to it but then PBC drug their feet when it came to anything Bud asked for in return...PBC was the one negotiating in bad faith from jump.. Now Haymon got Espinoza trying to clean the shyt up while contradicting himself and getting caught in lie after lie.. Spence vs Thurman was always the fight they wanted instead
lol easier route was to confiscate the other belts on pbc side.. its easier to make those fights without the politcs..What's Crawford fighting that dude- got to do with the fact that Spence been giving him the run around for yrs, and his team never wanted the Crawford fight. Remember when Spence told Crawford " Porter got a belt too, why wouldn't I take the easier route."
thats common sense...spence got the 3 belts..
the more spence showed he was back.. the more bud started screamin i dont need spence ..the fight wont happen...he needs me
hell scream that shyt til his next fight...
he wins then its lets go spence...
look at the politics now..
also note..
porters belt and manny/ugas belt was their to be taken..
did bud make an attempt..to get atleast one..or was he content holdin to the wbo...
why didnt he position himself to become spence mandatory