He was undisputed champ at 140, and could have moved up to be any of those titles mandatories. Castono got the WBO title after being the mandatory and taking it from a Golden Boy fighter. Spence could get any of the other champs to fight him coming up so he went to the UK and took Brooks belt.
This is simply not true... the only sanctions that allow you to become mandatory right away moving from a lower division is WBO and WBC.
Arum didn't want to put the money up, cause Bud was not a big draw. They low balled Porter the first time (eventually made the fight a year later).
You claimed Bud coulda just moved up from 140 and became anyones mandatories and I had to correct you because thats clearly a lie
Hell Arum put up more money than Haymon and TR has made more of an attempt to fight pbc fighters than vice versa..
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you can't be serious.
Yea I think I spoke to you before.. you the nikka that love posting links trying to prove shyt nobody is even arguing or refuting...You just going to ignore whatever facts I'm going to give you anyway. They only offer Porter $1 million the first time.
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A year later they had to give him $4 million to put that fight on PPV.
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Can you find a link where they made an offer to any PBC fight like that?
As far as the PBC making fights with Top Rank. Everytime they have the A side Haymon released his fighters to fight on another platform. Arum doesn't want to make fights with them he wants to take thier fighters. This is why he trys to negotiate with Porters father, or Danny Garcias father when Haymon is handling thier business for them. He was trying to sign them to multi fight deals.
Also you forget that Arum sued them for 100 million. Would you go out of your way to work with someone Iike that (who also called you the cancer of boxing).?
Wilder was able to make the fight faster the first time when Top Rank wasn't involved. We had to wait how long for a rematch when he signed with them? Look at the guys Fury was fighting in between those fights.
They didn't offer Mickey any fights dude. He ducked Gamboa but went to fight Spence
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The same thing Arum did with Mikey he did with Crawford. Promised them bith a fight with Manny that he knew he had no intentions of making. Why is it so many people speak negatively about him but you never hear anything like this with Haymon? Oscar, Floyd, Manny, Cotto, Mikey, Crawford all left him. All went on to bigger fights afterwards except Crawford so far.
If you got sources post them.
The WBO was the easiest route. I said that already. Horn was with Top Rank. Crawford had a mandatory against Lipinets the IBF champ (Couldn't move up for that belt because Spence was next in line). So he had to face him or vacate which he did, and moved up to become the WBO mandatory.Yea I think I spoke to you before.. you the nikka that love posting links trying to prove shyt nobody is even arguing or refuting...
Yes Mikey said all that about Arum... Yes Mikey ducked Gamboa..
Yes Mikey fought Spence..
Yes TR offered beltless gatekeeper Porter $1 million guaranteed..
Yes Haymon offered undefeated Bud Crawford $0 guaranteed..
Yes TR has made more of an effort to fight PBC fighters than vice versa
You understand that more than 1 thing can be true right??
The issue is you wanna talk about all this instead because you wanna DEFLECT from the original point which is the lie you told claiming Crawford could've just been anyone's mandatory and just took on Horn cause that was the "easy route"..
Are you gonna address this or not??
What you said was Bud could move up and become the mandatory for any belt just cause he was undisputed which is a lie. at this point you're just rambling like a junkie trying to clean up the lie and deflect to make points nobody is even arguing
If Bud wanted to fight for any of those belts he could have signed with the PBC after winning the WBO.
Not grabbing the WBO 1st only makes sense if the guys holding those other belts are cowards hiding behind imaginary side of street politics.. How is Bud supposed to predict PBC welterweights would flat out refuse to do business with TR to make a fight?? Had Crawford known this ahead of time maybe he goes a different route to try and force coward nikkas into an ordered mandatory rather than simple unification ESPECIALLY after they told Crawford to get a belt.. See how your hindsight 50 logic doesn't really work in this instance?
just give it up already breh at this point you're just rambling.. WBO was the easiest belt to get because it was the only belt available for him to getThey did not refuse to fight Bud, they had better options for more money. Porter went from 1 million offer to 4 million. Haymon was not even involved they went to Top Rank themselves.Not grabbing the WBO 1st only makes sense if the guys holding those other belts are cowards hiding behind imaginary side of street politics.. How is Bud supposed to predict PBC welterweights would flat out refuse to do business with TR to make a fight?? Had Crawford known this ahead of time maybe he goes a different route to try and force coward nikkas into an ordered mandatory rather than simple unification ESPECIALLY after they told Crawford to get a belt.. See how your hindsight 50 logic doesn't really work in this instance?
You initially stated Crawford could just move up and become anyone mandatory at 147, then you tried to clean it up talking bout "of course it wouldn't be immediate" just to turn around and say some stupid shyt about him needing to stay at 140 longer to get ranked higher in another division
What better options?
You didn't explain anything to me that I didn't already know..All you did was try to clean up a lie you told that Bud could've just moved up and been the mandatory for every belt.. just to do an about face and admit the WBO was the only belt available when he moved up.. Followed by some dumb AF scenario where Bud should make more defenses at 140 then move up and try to become someone's mandatory for less money instead of grabbing a title to unify with them.. Crawford was supposed to predict that Keef would sit on the couch for 2 and a half years and Spence and the other ducks would hide behind side of the street politics for years until they were beltless
And Arum was right.. Every last one of them nikkas wanted career high paydays from TR to step in the ring with Bud... Thurman wanted $10m and didn't even have a strap.. Danny turned down a guaranteed $3m plus backend for less money. Spence wasn't even willing to do business with Arum
Boots claiming he wants the fight but it's funny how you not telling Boots to do what you wanted Crawford to do which is become Crawford's mandatory.. And last I checked Boots signed a multi fight exclusive deal with Showtime.. A network that won't even guarantee Crawford $1 dollar for the biggest fight in boxing
There were no straps available for them like there was for Bud with the WBO.. theres was no champs at 135 Or HW telling Shakur and Usyk they gotta get belt 1st then after they get a belt freeze them out for years telling them to clean up their side of the street 1st
Declined? LOL Bradley retired..
When Bradley was asked about facing Spence, his excuse was they never did business with the PBC. Its in a fighthype interview. (Why would they go out of thier way now when they had all the top names, plus added Pacquiao and Mickey Garcia.) They even added Ugas who was let go by Top Rank.
