Tech companies are facing a crisis "hiring"

[AAKing23]

All that shyt is CAP......there is no job crisis, they do not hire Black people point blank.

When I was hiring for my open positions under me at my old job, the recruiter's would rarely send me Black candidates. When I found Black candidates, I would try to hire them and I would get overrided, so what I did is that I worked with the temp agency that the company had a contract with and hired a brother and paid him more than the others under me.

My manager was mad as shyt and I did not give a fukk, I was planning on leaving the job anyways. I would argue with my manager every week because they wanted to get rid of him and told the brother your not going to stay here, your work her for a couple of months, and soak up the game from me and I'll help you move on to a something else.

He worked there for a couple of months and every week I was arguing with my manager, then he told me that he found another job and is going to start and it is paying way more money and I told him see nikka I told you and then about 2 days later I quit and walked off the job.

Good shyt breh

 

[Steel]

And thats why there’s a hiring crisis. Cats with 6 certs and 10+ years of IT experience getting screwed out of pay, downplaying skills, and those meeting the unrealistic requirements getting underpaid offers.

Your always going to have those companies that penny pinch but there isnt a hiring crisis in that regard. There's a hiring crisis because there arent enough qualified workers for companies to choose from so competition is heavy. They also dont help themselves by not willing to hire juniors or entry level. Its weird because companies either go after fresh grads or senior roles. In between you have the junior roles filled with people who come from bootcamps, switching careers, or self taught. A friend of mine older breh who just completed a (computer science) bachelor program at Georgia tech and most of his graduating class were offered roles before graduation

 

[JLova]

That’s because of how the recruiting process is and pay.

They want over-qualified people and trying to underpay them or want things completely unreasonable.

And then, usually the workload is ridiculous.


For example, my company put out jobs internally and nobody wants them. Reason being, they want them to get a high level certification (I just spoke to my recruiting company today. They were saying that CCNA is not considered a high level certification. I’m like ok, the average time it takes to get that cert is a year last I heard and the average pay in my area is 90k WITHOUT fringe).

So yeah, people are turning it down left and right. Not only will they get underpaid, they will also not get full reimbursement on the certification that only recently been required. People here got 5+ certs, degrees, etc., and you want them to get a high-level cert without compensation only to pay them the bare minimum?

Well this is what that person who gets the position probably will do.. take that little bit of money, get the cert, and quit for another company with high level pay (90k in my area).

Funny thing is in Canada they will expect this at 15-25% lower pay.

 

[Mindfield333]

Now is one of those times where brothers who are trying to break into the industry will be given more grace than they might be in different times. If you're nervous or unsure about putting yourself out there, just do it.

Man… these folks blowing my phone up. Can wait til I get what I want and hide my resume again.

 

[AquaCityBoy]

 

[Lucky_Lefty]

I mean, what did you expect them to do? They're not gonna have you on the clock while also trying to run your own business at the same time. The time for people to go all out for workers' rights was the summer of 202 but you had a segment who were ready to get back to life and back to work. They squandered a major opportunity to hold these folks in a bind and it was the prime opportunity to get back some of the workers rights that were loss over the last 40 years.

THEN they use this software WorkSmart which will take pictures of you at random intervals, "it's just like if you were in the office and someone happened to walk by."

I've had three Fed agencies call and offer me gigs the past two weeks but I've turned them down because a) they wanted me to start immediately and b) all three were in the middle of nowhere. I'm in no rush to go back to work. I got a couple of streams of guaranteed $$ so I'm not pressed. And even if I were, I'm not giving up big city living just to go live in middle of nowhere America. fukk that.

 

[hatealot]

I mean, what did you expect them to do? They're not gonna have you on the clock while also trying to run your own business at the same time. The time for people to go all out for workers' rights was the summer of 202 but you had a segment who were ready to get back to life and back to work. They squandered a major opportunity to hold these folks in a bind and it was the prime opportunity to get back some of the workers rights that were loss over the last 40 years.


I've had three Fed agencies call and offer me gigs the past two weeks but I've turned them down because a) they wanted me to start immediately and b) all three were in the middle of nowhere. I'm in no rush to go back to work. I got a couple of streams of guaranteed $$ so I'm not pressed. And even if I were, I'm not giving up big city living just to go live in middle of nowhere America. fukk that.

You got non fed offers. You military? Be honest, you got contracting gigs. You are not a fed employee.

 

[Blessings]

I've always been interested in tech, but I wouldn't even know where to start. My ass is 43.. i aint tryna go to school for 3-4 more years just to start making money. That's just not possible for me.

Sourcing information/knowledge to solve an issue/gap, etc is a key component in tech. There's youtube, reddit, linkedin, blind, discord, and google.

 

[Michael's Black Son]

If you don't stop the nepotism and don't add WORKER UNIONS to these professions, ain't no one gonna work for you long term

facts

so much cap in these articles.

And i’m talking from shyt I’ve witnessed at my own company during coronamania.

the companies are thirsty to go back to the old days.

Thirsty.

Regardless of the people supposedly quitting jobs left and right, people want to work. They just aren’t eager to be in an office with office politics and damn sure don’t want the paths of their careers artificially suppressed (like the old days). And management throwing their weight around in your faces in an office (as part of the bullshyt culture) just isn’t working anymore.

Then you got brehs and brehettes who max out at 1-3 years at these companies. They aren’t getting elevated and have no issue (these days) leaving even if that means going somewhere that has low name cache. Brehs/brehettes leave my company on a regular basis. These bullshyt diversity initiatives are lip service and faux gestures. Any company saying they can’t “find” black talent is all cap. They’re manipulating the flow of who is coming in (plus the salaries) and for those already there (if you stay) you better be maneuvering like a Formula 1 car. Good luck with that tho.

aside from that, these hiring managers are cliqued up with the in house recruiters to sift out who they ultimately want at the companies. Jobs (by rule) have to be posted but damn near all the time they already have identified candidates the want. These manages know tons of people/associates/kids of former co-workers who need jobs. And they want these departments to fit their vision.

Only companies really struggling to get people in are the ones with iffy reputations. Former co-worker of mine who is a bootleg manager literally begged me to to come back (I worked there 6 years ago). The money they are offering is a joke for the experience level ($85k) and working there would be like associating yourself with Wack 100 in 2022. That company literally has its employees advertising jobs on their social media — and they prolly have like a couple dozen openings. Folk just not fukking with them.

 

[SupremexKing]

I've worked in IT and Cybersecurity for the last 8 years of my life. I'm 28. I do not have a college degree.

At 21 I made 60k at my first job traveling the country as a systems administrator. My first job.

Fast forward to 2022, I now live overseas, have property in Hawaii and make upwards of 120, taking a pay cut to live overseas with all expenses paid for.

IT is the present and future for all my brehs. There is plentiful money to be made, and many women to choose from as a result of the opportunities that arise from said positions, not to make this about women.

I'm comfortable where I'm at with a decent team and in an overall good space, but I get emails from tech recruiters on a recurring basis (at least several emails weekly)

. I could easily work several remote jobs and my current gig (im a major slacker so that wouldn't work for me) at the same time.

If anyone needs help or a direction to be pointed in, holler at me.

 

[Wild self]

facts

so much cap in these articles.

And i’m talking from shyt I’ve witnessed at my own company during coronamania.

the companies are thirsty to go back to the old days.

Thirsty.

Regardless of the people supposedly quitting jobs left and right, people want to work. They just aren’t eager to be in an office with office politics and damn sure don’t want the paths of their careers artificially suppressed (like the old days). And management throwing their weight around in your faces in an office (as part of the bullshyt culture) just isn’t working anymore.

Then you got brehs and brehettes who max out at 1-3 years at these companies. They aren’t getting elevated and have no issue (these days) leaving even if that means going somewhere that has low name cache. Brehs/brehettes leave my company on a regular basis. These bullshyt diversity initiatives are lip service and faux gestures. Any company saying they can’t “find” black talent is all cap. They’re manipulating the flow of who is coming in (plus the salaries) and for those already there (if you stay) you better be maneuvering like a Formula 1 car. Good luck with that tho.

aside from that, these hiring managers are cliqued up with the in house recruiters to sift out who they ultimately want at the companies. Jobs (by rule) have to be posted but damn near all the time they already have identified candidates the want. These manages know tons of people/associates/kids of former co-workers who need jobs. And they want these departments to fit their vision.

Only companies really struggling to get people in are the ones with iffy reputations. Former co-worker of mine who is a bootleg manager literally begged me to to come back (I worked there 6 years ago). The money they are offering is a joke for the experience level ($85k) and working there would be like associating yourself with Wack 100 in 2022. That company literally has its employees advertising jobs on their social media — and they prolly have like a couple dozen openings. Folk just not fukking with them.

And mind you, all of this is happening when the Baby Boomer generation are 65 and older, and literally cannot work another calendar year due to old age and exhaustion from COVID. They are tapped out, while Gen X and Y are FINALLY getting their act together and bouncing left and right from the toxic office culture.

 

[Michael's Black Son]

And mind you, all of this is happening when the Baby Boomer generation are 65 and older, and literally cannot work another calendar year due to old age and exhaustion from COVID. They are tapped out, while Gen X and Y are FINALLY getting their act together and bouncing left and right from the toxic office culture.

some of these boomers saw the writing on the wall and bowed out gracefully after YEARS of sucking up big salaries while the new gen had to wait on the bench and hoping to get put into the game.

but a lot of these older workers are still around — not because they “need” the money. They could take buyouts or flat out retire. Some just want to keep working and maintaining the order of this office status quo. You see this shyt in legacy companies like mass media (TV, news), law, finance and many other industries.

they aren’t passing the torch until they let these younger mediocre CACs iron out their kinks for a few years. No wayyyyyyyyy they let some 20-30ish year olds steer the ship. Will never happen. These legacy companies are top heavy with old ass dudes with some women and tokens sprinkled in here and there — ones that will stick to the script.

 

[Wild self]

some of these boomers saw the writing on the wall and bowed out gracefully after YEARS of sucking up big salaries while the new gen had to wait on the bench and hoping to get put into the game.

but a lot of these older workers are still around — not because they “need” the money. They could take buyouts or flat out retire. Some just want to keep working and maintaining the order of this office status quo. You see this shyt in legacy companies like mass media (TV, news), law, finance and many other industries.

they aren’t passing the torch until they let these younger mediocre CACs iron out their kinks for a few years. No wayyyyyyyyy they let some 20-30ish year olds steer the ship. Will never happen. These legacy companies are top heavy with old ass dudes with some women and tokens sprinkled in here and there — ones that will stick to the script.

Well, the interesting thing is that the status quo of old is so unpopular, that these companies are learning the hard way that the top notch talent they want to exploit opened pandora's box and leaving them. Some of these baby boomer CACs like 75 years old, and when all of this is happening in the last 2-3 years. Even worse is when Gen Z males of all races are not even going to college anymore, and knowingly facing the hard realities that 80% of their employees will be catty, unhappy women in middle to upper positions due to the lack of availability of college grad males under 25. Gonna look very interesting in the next 5 to 7 years when the baby boomers are gone from the work force entirely and Gen X are entering their 60s.

 

[Drip Bayless]

God blessing all the tech nikkas
If it I can’t work from home bytch don’t call my phone

 

[Drip Bayless]

So really what’s the best fields in tech to take advantage of this rush in workers? Where can i fake it until i make it? Get in with as little training as possible?

Probably data analytics but even then you gotta either know your shyt or have a 4 year degree
DA is mad broad though so a lot of “data analytics” jobs involve very little data analysis