Tariq Nasheed vs Andrew Schulz on The Brilliant Idiots...VIDEO ADDED

[CodeBlaMeVi]

There's a reason that the only people cosigning you in this thread are ther c00ns/crackers. You're the one just talking. "Debates aren't about the truth". It's no wonder you keep giving this cracker credit for lying and trolling, you're just as lacking in integrity as he is. Trying to debate dishonest people who lack integrity and don't care about the truth is an exercise in futility.

at you accusing anyone else of not being an "academic".

The epitome of what TN was doing is people believing in the Bible totally. Can't prove any of it just was told believe or go to hell.

Am I right or am I right?

 

[Maschine_Man]

The epitome of what TN was doing is people believing in the Bible totally. Can't prove any of it just was told believe or go to hell.

Am I right or am I right?

TN is a snake oil salesman.

 

[Free White & 21]

You're right, he didn't say "anyone who is successful and black is a token."

He said @ 1:14:30 that, " a lot of times, people put black folks in these token positions."
My question is who a token and who isn't? Then my next question is, if they all aren't tokens, then how did they become, and maintain success? If Tariq isn't a token, how is he successful under the system of white supremacy, while denouncing white supremacy, while being paid to bring white supremacy to the forefront??? That's a cluster fukk on contradictions.

As Tariq said: you either have white supremacy or you don't

All of those questions require answers. Do not answer a question by asking a question.

First off, i now suspect that you flat out lied and attempted to create a straw man by FALSELY stating that tariq said "Anyone who is black..."

When you ask "Who's a token?" in RELATION to Tariq's argument, I suspect you of PURPOSELY ignoring the context to create ANOTHER straw man. Evidence of this attempt can be seen in your subsequent questions.

That's a cluster fukk on contradictions.

How are there contradictions if you're ignorant of Tariq's definition of Token Blacks?

Your argument seems a disingenuous.

 

[Gravity]

TN - White ppl are allowing black immigrants to come to America and be successful, and not american blacks.
AS - Why?

TN - Because the white ppl can just take that wealth away from them if they want to...

AS how?

TN - Deport them!!

AS -

TN - They can deport them and send them back to their villages

AS -



y'all don't see how foolish this is? First off, you can't deport a citizen, secondly you can't take just take away their wealth and send them back to their villages, just because you want to.


geez.... good thing All these successful immigrants and black americans are allowed to succeed by white ppl. Surely they couldn't do it without the white man's permission.

The whole premise of this argument is false. Black immigrants dont really proper like that. If anything, the fact that Nigerians are the most highly educated immigrant ethnic group yet are not the most financially successful immigrant group proves Nasheed's point. Nigerians are #1 in education yet are only #50 when it comes to Anerican immigrant household income.

List of ethnic groups in the United States by household income - Wikipedia

Why are Nigerians #50 in income despite being #1 in education? Nigerians certainly don't disprove the existence of white supremacy which is the argument that Shultz tried to make.

 

[Free White & 21]

debating w/ stats is a WS tactic to try to deflect.

So many different variables behind stats that it makes it very subjective. That's why White supremacist always run to stats....it's a tool for deflection

So basically you typed multiple paragraphs proving you don't have a grasp of statistics, and how they can be used to create false narratives

But I've seen you pull other shyt out ya ass to try and disparage Tariq's name.

The fukk are you talkin about breh?

Matter fact, find a post of me disparaging tariq's name

 

[CodeBlaMeVi]

Exactly....

That whole exchange was stupid as fukk..

First Nigerians are tokens...and then Nigerians are treated like African Americans...

Tariq's whole White supremacy spiel is getting fukking annoying...

This nikka just uses the Nelly Fuller's work without any nuance...

First...he starts out talking about White supremacy having resources and not sharing it equally...

And Schultz was like...Blacks are 12 percent of the population...shouldn't yall get 12 percent of the resources...and Tariq had no answer for that...and started talking about Black schools and White schools...

And then Schultz was like...well you gotta compare a Rich Black school to a Rich White School...

And then Tariq was like...how come there aren't more rich Black neighborhoods...WHITE SUPREMACY!


If everything reduces back to White Supremacy...that's not a debate...it's just circular logic...

An economists or a sociologists could talk about class differences and how to reduce class differences and universal school systems and baby bonds and missing wealth and all that shyt...


These "debates" are just an exercise in circular logic...

I find TN entertainment but he's on that "it's WS because I say so."

He does the same shyt he proclaims suspected WS do.

 

[AlainLocke]

Tariq quoted David MacRitchie, a folklorist, from the late 1800s saying Celts were black...when this dude said fairies were in Briton before the Celts arrived

David MacRitchie - Wikipedia

Fairy Euhemerism, as developed by MacRitchie attempts to rationally explain the origin of fairies in British folklore and regards fairies as being a folk-memory of a "small-statured pre-Celtic race" or what Tylor theorised as possible folk memories of the aborigines of Britain.[11][12] MacRitchie's theory subsequently became known in the late 19th century by folklorists as the "Ethnological or Pygmy Theory".[13] The euhemeristic theory of fairies became considerably popular through MacRitchie's key works The Testimony of Tradition (1890) and Fians, Fairies and Picts (1893).[14][15] Different theories however in the late 19th century and early 20th century surfaced concerning the racial origin of the proposed dwarf aborigines of Britain and these theories ranged from proposing that they were real African Pygmies, Eskimos or a short statured Mediterranean race.

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Tariq didn't quote a historian, a population geneticist...but a fukking folklorist that said fairies arrived in the UK before the Celts...

Tariq is full of shyt.. and yall say Tariq won...


And then Tariq said a White man said it...it must be true...


The fukk...

Celts are not unique genetic identity...DNA study shows Celts are not a unique genetic group - BBC News

 

[Gravity]

The epitome of what TN was doing is people believing in the Bible totally. Can't prove any of it just was told believe or go to hell.

Am I right or am I right?

No, you're not right. You don't think that the existence of white supremacy can be proven?

 

[AlainLocke]

No, you're not right. You don't think that the existence of white supremacy can be proven?

It can't be proven by saying every single thing is White Supremacy...

Nigerians succeed...White Supremacy....

Oprah is wealthy...White Supremacy...

School disparity...White Supremacy...

Wealth inequality...White Supremacy...

Obama won...White Supremacy...

White Supremacy is a specific thing...not everything...

 

[Maschine_Man]

The whole premise of this argument is false. Black immigrants dont really proper like that. If anything, the fact that Nigerians are the most highly educated immigrant ethnic group yet are not the most financially successful immigrant group proves Nasheed's point. Nigerians are #1 in education yet are only #50 when it comes to Anerican immigrant household income.

List of ethnic groups in the United States by household income - Wikipedia

Why are Nigerians #50 in income despite being #1 in education? Nigerians certainly don't disprove the existence of white supremacy which is the argument that Shultz tried to make.

It Isn't Just Asian Immigrants Who Thrive

According to Census data, more than 43 percent of African immigrants hold a bachelor’s degree or higher -- slightly more than immigrants from East Asia. Nigerian immigrants are especially educated, with almost two-thirds holding college degrees -- a significantly higher percentage even than Chinese or South Korean immigrants. African immigrants are also very likely to hold advanced degrees, many of which are earned at U.S. universities. By many measures, African immigrants are as far ahead of American whites in the educational achievement as whites are ahead of African-Americans.

That education translates into higher household income. Nigerian-Americans, for instance, have a median household income well above the American average, and above the average of many white and Asian groups, such as those of Dutch or Korean descent.


The argument isn't false unless you compare all degrees and positions. thats like the gender argument saying men make 25% more than women without looking at the jobs they are going in to. Different countries/backgrounds/cultures etc. often times focus on different areas. I'm not saying that Nigerians are taking lower paying degrees/jobs or not I'm just saying that without actually researching the actual degrees and positions this argument isn't completely valid.

and WITH all that, they are still making more than the median income of all Americans(including white).

The problem with just looking at immigrants is ppl only want to look at poor immigrants and think that is the be all end all of immigration.

Also, not everyone is "allowed" to immigrant to USA the same. there are different rules.

Did you know that a Canadian (for example) must have a high paying job, or a degree(in only accepted areas) in order to work in the USA??

then lets on top of that the language barrier for a lot of immigrants and the types of jobs here. there are so many variables that will determine ppl's wages. just to blatantly yell out white supremacy is lazy.

 

[KodeBlue]

First off, i now suspect that you flat out lied and attempted to create a straw man by FALSELY stating that tariq said "Anyone who is black..."

When you ask "Who's a token?" in RELATION to Tariq's argument, I suspect you of PURPOSELY ignoring the context to create ANOTHER straw man. Evidence of this attempt can be seen in your subsequent questions.



How are there contradictions if you're ignorant of Tariq's definition of Token Blacks?

Your argument seems a disingenuous.

Trust me, I don't the have to create a straw man argument for Tariq. He hangs himself with his own argument. Now he's gonna get you hung.

Secondly, you didn't answer my questions. You can use Tariq's definition of the word "token" to answer each one of them. Any definition that he used will still be a contradiction, and I will show you how.

Also, you and I aren't gonna be vague with definitions. Let's not leave any room for misinterpretation.

Now, please answer the questions that I asked you.

 

[KodeBlue]

It can't be proven by saying every single thing is White Supremacy...

Nigerians succeed...White Supremacy....

Oprah is wealthy...White Supremacy...

School disparity...White Supremacy...

Wealth inequality...White Supremacy...

Obama won...White Supremacy...

White Supremacy is a specific thing...not everything...

It appears that even Tariq doesn't have a clear definition of white supremacy. He defines it in a way that nothing can not be white supremacy. He's turn white supremacy into Oxygen, and matter.

 

[AlainLocke]

It appears that even Tariq doesn't have a clear definition of white supremacy. He defines it in a way that nothing can not be white supremacy. He's turn white supremacy into Oxygen, and matter.

Yeah...and when you do that...you look like an idiot...


Even interracial dating is White Supremacy...


And his argument is self defeating...because anything you do to defeat White Supremacy...it is "allowed" by White supremacy...as a "sacrifice..."


So WTF is the point of Tariq talking?

His own argument defeats him....

 

[MostReal]

don't.

Best best believe that REAL WS's DO agree with him. and he is doing their work.

if that was the case, you wouldn't be in this thread

 

[Maschine_Man]

if that was the case, you wouldn't be in this thread

ahhh, the good ol "you are white supremacist because you don't believe what I believe" argument


well, thanks for coming out and supporting your argument with facts and logic.