Tariq Nasheed vs Andrew Schulz on The Brilliant Idiots...VIDEO ADDED

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What I don't understand is ppl that actually took the time to listen to this and still come away saying he "bodied" him or some other lame shyt.


just displaying their ignorance and confirmation bias.



but the worst part of all of this, is that Tariq Nasheed is an agent of White Supremacy. He is doing more damage(and not TO WS) and ppl are just eating it up.....:mindblown:
I don't expect a cac to side with Tariq.
 

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Heres the thing, African immigrants are the MOST educated of any legal immigrants. Period. And its not even close.

But...

they're the MOST UNDER-EMPLOYED.

Something's going on there :francis:
But not only that point. Yes, Nigerian American immigrants are black however unlike black Americans they know their roots, they know their origins, original culture and language. They have that foundation. Black Americans though are coming from years of institutionalized racism a lot of black young adults today are literally the first ones to ever graduate from college/high school in their families and are just a few generations from Jim Crow and yes even slavery, they come from low socioeconomic areas with poor school funding. it just isn't that linear.
 

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What I don't understand is ppl that actually took the time to listen to this and still come away saying he "bodied" him or some other lame shyt.


just displaying their ignorance and confirmation bias.



but the worst part of all of this, is that Tariq Nasheed is an agent of White Supremacy. He is doing more damage(and not TO WS) and ppl are just eating it up.....:mindblown:

So what is Schultz doing? Hes bringing uonfscts as well and trying to place this poor white people narrative too.

Tariq can shut down everything just off one point alone, prison sentences for whites compared to blacks is enough to stop the debate right there.

What you guys who hate tsrriq really want is people to accept poor whites are disenfranchised too which makes me know most of you aren't black.

Tariq doesn't need books or stats to read to save his ass the last 8 years enough is more than enough narritvie toshyt down a racist white man with a stack of books from the last 200 years.

Just say you're unhappy with the black community is keep it moving.
 

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So what is Schultz doing? Hes bringing uonfscts as well and trying to place this poor white people narrative too.

Tariq can shut down everything just off one point alone, prison sentences for whites compared to blacks is enough to stop the debate right there.

What you guys who hate tsrriq really want is people to accept poor whites are disenfranchised too which makes me know most of you aren't black.

Tariq doesn't need books or stats to read to save his ass the last 8 years enough is more than enough narritvie toshyt down a racist white man with a stack of books from the last 200 years.

Just say you're unhappy with the black community is keep it moving.
No. This isn't about the truth. This about who won the debate. I (and a few others) don't believe he won the debate. Any black person knows (should know) the truth but in a debate or trial, got to make a compelling argument with something to back it up. If not then the Spanish Inquisition was valid along with the witch hunts.
 

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So what is Schultz doing? Hes bringing uonfscts as well and trying to place this poor white people narrative too.

Shulz is inconsistent, and is unable to follow through on a argument without flipping around. He's not much better. TN is dangerous because he has more reach and his message is actually dangerous to those that buy in to it.

Tariq can shut down everything just off one point alone, prison sentences for whites compared to blacks is enough to stop the debate right there.

That doesn't shut down anything, that is just a known fact. Laying on one fact and using that as your argument allows the opposition to do the same, in which there are many points they can come with. this issue isn't a one topic issue. Its a lot more complex than just prison sentences.

What you guys who hate tsrriq really want is people to accept poor whites are disenfranchised too which makes me know most of you aren't black.

What I hate about Tariq is that he tells ppl they ain't shyt, they have no control over their lives they are unable to think for themselves and the only time a black person can be successful is if white people LET THEM. In which he will turn around and call any successful black person a "token". THAT is BS. and it completely tells every black person that worked hard and sacrificed that all of their sacrifices and hard work mean nothing, and they only have what they want because white ppl let them have that.

Tariq doesn't need books or stats to read to save his ass the last 8 years enough is more than enough narritvie toshyt down a racist white man with a stack of books from the last 200 years.

No, he actually does need to provide facts, stats and proof, and anyone saying he doesn't need to is just falling for that snake oil salesman tactic.


Just say you're unhappy with the black community is keep it moving.

Just say you are blind and let's keep it moving.
 

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I don't recall Tariq saying ANYONE who is successful and black is a token. If you have proof of that from this debate, post the timestamps.

Tariq is successful and black, i doubt he considers himself a token. I wouldn't consider him a token, but i recognize his success can be thwarted by the WS. I suspect there are attempts to sabotage and subvert his success as we speak.

You're right, he didn't say "anyone who is successful and black is a token."

He said @ 1:14:30 that, " a lot of times, people put black folks in these token positions."
My question is who a token and who isn't? Then my next question is, if they all aren't tokens, then how did they become, and maintain success? If Tariq isn't a token, how is he successful under the system of white supremacy, while denouncing white supremacy, while being paid to bring white supremacy to the forefront??? That's a cluster fukk on contradictions.

As Tariq said: you either have white supremacy or you don't

All of those questions require answers. Do not answer a question by asking a question.
 

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The Bad: I think Tariq needs to tighten up on the semantics. He was giving schulz too much ammo to filibuster and waste time. Tighten up on stats too. The current WS/SWS have all kinds of stats to try to disprove WS, along with the usual fallacious arguments. Tariq's debate style is too OG. In the Khalid vs Hannity era you could simply hit the SWS with obvious proofs of hypocrisy, a few zingers, and a MACRO view of the issues and they'd be done. But now in the Molyneux, Shapiro, and Milo era you're gonna need a few more weapons. Those weapons are data sets and stats. I also think tariq dropped the ball heavily on the Nigerian argument.
Excellent points.

Props to you as always. +rep
 

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debating w/ stats is a WS tactic to try to deflect.

So many different variables behind stats that it makes it very subjective. That's why White supremacist always run to stats....it's a tool for deflection

So basically you typed multiple paragraphs proving you don't have a grasp of statistics, and how they can be used to create false narratives

But I've seen you pull other shyt out ya ass to try and disparage Tariq's name.
The way he buried Schulz stats at the very end was one for the history books. :ohlawd: Straight called his whole M.O. out :banderas:
 

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Do y'all think Tariq could get the best of Stefan Molyneux
Honestly, not in any way anyone would admit.

Stefan comes with stats. Bullshyt stats. But stats.

Stefan is dangerous because he manages to fool people with carefully selected data and has such confidence and outright ingrained racism that it'd take a damn near scholar to outmaneuver him. And even then, you'd have to convince the audience who is more right.
 

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People feel tight about this comment but it is true. I know what time it is but you can't come to anyone that's purposely going to deflect with simply "ya know." Need something more concrete.

TN: The anglo supremacists let blacks from other places come and prosper.

My (or any somewhat smart person) first response is "how and/or why?"

TN: You know how and why.

Me::troll: No I don't. Explain it to me.

TN: c'mon, man. You know. The WS power structure.

Me: Elaborate on the WS power structure, please.

TN: Read XXX book and it's right there. :mjgrin:

Me: So, I assume you read and analyzed this text so why not just quote or paraphrase it for me? You brought it up so educate me right now, please. :mjlol:

TN: See this is what c00ns and anglos do. That's that "Im anglo/c00n so I say so." :stopitslime:

That was TN for the first hour. That's not debating let alone winning. I like listening to him but he just talks. He's not an academic.
There's a reason that the only people cosigning you in this thread are ther c00ns/crackers. You're the one just talking. "Debates aren't about the truth". It's no wonder you keep giving this cracker credit for lying and trolling, you're just as lacking in integrity as he is. Trying to debate dishonest people who lack integrity and don't care about the truth is an exercise in futility.

:mjlol: at you accusing anyone else of not being an "academic".
 

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TN - White ppl are allowing black immigrants to come to America and be successful, and not american blacks.
AS - :patrice: Why?

TN - Because the white ppl can just take that wealth away from them if they want to...

AS :patrice: how?

TN - Deport them!!

AS - :guilty:

TN - They can deport them and send them back to their villages

AS - :huh:



y'all don't see how foolish this is? First off, you can't deport a citizen, secondly you can't take just take away their wealth and send them back to their villages, just because you want to.


geez.... good thing All these successful immigrants and black americans are allowed to succeed by white ppl. Surely they couldn't do it without the white man's permission.
 

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I miss the days where smart educated experts would debate...this shyt was trash...

These motherfukkers make my head hurt...


All it was...Schutlz would says something...Tariq would say White Supremacy...
 
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TN - White Supremacists let a small percentage of ppl prosper, they don't mind letting 1-2 % ppl prosper its a small group

AS - :francis:

TN - In Nazi Germany they had Rich jews that were put in the oven..

AS - yea but all the Jews were put in oven

TN - EXACTLY!!! All of us are treated the same!!!

AS - :mindblown:

TN - some black ppl are ALLOWED to be successful and have money...

AS - :patrice: but if everyone is treated the same, then why is a small percentage allowed to prosper??

TN - Ugh, Because those ppl can be controlled. They will allow Tokens to be successful.
 

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TN - White Supremacists let a small percentage of ppl prosper, they don't mind letting 1-2 % ppl prosper its a small group

AS - :francis:

TN - In Nazi Germany they had Rich jews that were put in the oven..

AS - yea but all the Jews were put in oven

TN - EXACTLY!!! All of us are treated the same!!!

AS - :mindblown:

TN - some black ppl are ALLOWED to be successful and have money...

AS - :patrice: but if everyone is treated the same, then why is a small percentage allowed to prosper??

TN - Ugh, Because those ppl can be controlled. They will allow Tokens to be successful.

Exactly....

That whole exchange was stupid as fukk..

First Nigerians are tokens...and then Nigerians are treated like African Americans...

Tariq's whole White supremacy spiel is getting fukking annoying...

This nikka just uses the Nelly Fuller's work without any nuance...

First...he starts out talking about White supremacy having resources and not sharing it equally...

And Schultz was like...Blacks are 12 percent of the population...shouldn't yall get 12 percent of the resources...and Tariq had no answer for that...and started talking about Black schools and White schools...

And then Schultz was like...well you gotta compare a Rich Black school to a Rich White School...

And then Tariq was like...how come there aren't more rich Black neighborhoods...WHITE SUPREMACY!


If everything reduces back to White Supremacy...that's not a debate...it's just circular logic...

An economists or a sociologists could talk about class differences and how to reduce class differences and universal school systems and baby bonds and missing wealth and all that shyt...


These "debates" are just an exercise in circular logic...
 
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