Tariq gone too far?

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She's been in the public eye for 20 years, and your anger at her is reduced to ONE story about how she cooks collard greens. :skip:

Where did she claim that that's how a "FBA American" cooks collard greens? All she said is that's how she personally does it for her friend's annual party. Maybe that's how some friend in Berkeley made it, or some friend in Montreal, or some friend at Howard, or for all you know she just thought of doing it that way herself (though in the thread about it, about a dozen Coli posters said their relatives had done it the same way). She obviously makes collard greens, you're just upset that she makes them different than you do......why would that be an issue? If she had been making it up, wouldn't she have just done basic research online and copied some popular method?


I think she was telling a random story about herself and didn't realize it would be controversial.

You believe that an educated woman with a law degree did no research just randomly made up a bunch of wrong details for no reason.


Make it make sense. :why:




Let me point out again - you've been making shyt up all over this thread and expressing all this anger here because she talked about how she makes collard greens. :dead:
This is what im talking about as far as being disingenouus

It was obviously an appeal to afram culture, and not only that she tried her best to do,what she thought, was the roots version of afram cooking and failed. It falls in line with the rest of her pandering
 

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I'm afraid you don't know what real pan African is
Lots of African countries have been pan African. Who do you think were help funding the ANC during the apartied? African countries. Even your country, Nigerian was one of the biggest funders.
Look at how angolans were in the Congos fighting against apartied paid groups.
Even today, pan African is bigger than ever with trade blocs and freedom of movement. You know ...tangible shyt.

Your idea of pan africanism is all symbolic shyt.


For your information, Caribbeans are the original people who came of with the concept of pan africanism. It didn't work in the Caribbeans, and when black Americans adapted it, it didn't work here either.
False pan africanism was platformed by black americans. Why do you think marcus garvey came here in the first place
 

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I was actually thinking of doing a thread on that idea earlier....cause why? At what point in American history did racial identity become about a certain % genetic test? It's always been a social construct, not a genetic construct. If one person is genetically 59% African with light skin and grows up in a white context, and someone else is 41% African descent with darker skin and grows up in a black context, do we consider the first one black and the second not due to their 23 and me? If we made it genetic, what would the actual dividing line be, and why?

I'm pretty sure all of them had less than 20% Black ancestry, and none of them look nearly as Black as Kamala does, yet socially they were considered Black their entire lives and always presented as Black. Just like Kamala did. So what would 23-and-Me "settle" about them or her?

Hell, even compare the founder of #ADOS (who is shytting on Kamala's blackness right now) with Kamala. If both of them went to your college, do you think the first would be considered Black and the second one not? If Yvette is 60% Black and 35% White, while Kamala is 35% Black and 15% White, would that "settle" anything?

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False pan africanism was platformed by black americans. Why do you think marcus garvey came here in the first place
lol @ platform

nice word salad

the fact is, the first pan african conferences was hosted by carribbeans who started the first organization that is classified as modern pan africanism in the UK. matter of fact all of the early panafrican conferences were held in England and Paris hosted by carribeans.

Garvey and other came to the US because they like any other movement want to............wait for it...


expand.......shocking right?:gladbron:

it failed in the US too because most aframs are and were never pan Africanists
 

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lol @ platform

nice word salad

the fact is, the first pan african conferences was hosted by carribbeans who started the first organization that is classified as modern pan africanism in the UK. matter of fact all of the early panafrican conferences were held in England and Paris hosted by carribeans.

Garvey and other came to the US because they like any other movement want to............wait for it...


expand.......shocking right?:gladbron:

it failed in the US too because most aframs are and were never pan Africanists
NOOOOOO

Garvey said himself, the reason he came because we had the biggest pan african infrastructure. He couldn't get it popping in the Caribbean

there is no group more pan african than us
 

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Garvey said himself, the reason he came because we had the biggest pan african infrastructure. He couldn't get it popping in the Caribbean

there is no group more pan african than us
you guys also had the largest black population(and don't mention Brazil, we all knw thats a lost cause) in the western hemisphere

now where did Garvey say that he moved to the US just to start his pan african movement? as far as i know, he needed support for his school he was trying to build in Jamaica. he had originally got an invite from Booker T. do you even have quote?

and Sahelieans are the most pan african

The AES are stocking up weapons, creating freedom of movement passports, kicking french out while implementing indigenous language, solidifying their economic ties, signing a pack to go to war together. which other black country fba rebels going to war for?
 

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I never once said it was "the same". I just said it was part of her experience. You want to claim that Black American culture is effectively zero part of her background, history, and upbringing, which was nonsense.


Im claiming that its not eatheral or authentic that matches what she claims. She goes for the gusto in this. That collard greens thing was her attempt to be a part of ROOTS afram culture. Which she is not a part of. Collage didn't give her that. Her Jamaican background didn't give her that .Indian mom didn't give her that. Canadian high school didn't give her that.

So what the fukk gave her that other then democratic "black americans are easy game and have no cultural core" gave her that.

White AMERICAN supremacy openly doesn't want our lineage in that place and putting ambiguous negroes in high office to mock us

And again only a black household can create a black fba person. She grew up black adjacent via an indian woman

Do you really think I'm Billy, yes or no.
 

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I'm sorry...but this is the truth. Way too many Black immigrants come here having no interest in Black American history and carry the beliefs dude is talking about.

My father's first college professor was THIS MAN.

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The SAME man who was the mentor of Kwame Nkrumah. they had no choice but to get it.

One thing African American history teaches you more than any group of people is that how they treated people here, eventually they do the same to whatever part of the Black world you are in some capacity. But way too many come here, as my sister who is a nurse says, "ready to show teeth."



False pan africanism was platformed by black americans. Why do you think marcus garvey came here in the first place
You are correct. Garvey didn't catch steam until he found African American audiences. He went back to Jamaica penniless and ostracized before he died.

Pan Africanism is strongest in the U.S.
 
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lol @ platform

nice word salad

the fact is, the first pan african conferences was hosted by carribbeans who started the first organization that is classified as modern pan africanism in the UK. matter of fact all of the early panafrican conferences were held in England and Paris hosted by carribeans.

Garvey and other came to the US because they like any other movement want to............wait for it...


expand.......shocking right?:gladbron:

it failed in the US too because most aframs are and were never pan Africanists

Look at this lie.

It failed because of J Edgar Hoover.

It failed because of the U.S. government.

It's hilarious how you can give all the credit in the world for "conferences" when Garvey was able to raise the equivalent of $16 million dollars from Black Americans in 1920 and his UNIA established 700 chapters in 38 states.

they had 4 million members in the U.S in the 1920s. There were 11 million Africans Americans on the U.S. census in 1920.

The fukk are you talking about?

You really sitting here saying "most Aframs were never pan Africanists" when out of everyone in the diaspora, they were the most.

Pan Africanism got its BIGGEST SUPPORT in the United States.

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fukk a conference full of elites. On the ground floor, you find many more Black Americans who embrace Pan Africanism more than you would elsewhere.

You are just biased as fukk.
 
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idk shyt about tariq, but it's pretty telling when all the posters on one side of the argument are cantankerous reprobates who were just released from the bushes... did diaspora warring turn their brains into porridge, or were they born like this?
 
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