Devil Plisken…CMS
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Offensive & funny as fukk
Tariq gone too far?
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Devil Plisken…CMS
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I’m dying laughing. Somebody really took time out to make this.
K.O.N.Y
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No one said that her mom "replaced" anything. But you claimed that Kamala was "faking" having been raised in an AfAm context.Breh so insecure in his arguments, he made them damn near illegible.
No one said that her mom "replaced" anything. But you claimed that Kamala was "faking" having been raised in an AfAm context. Even if being raised in a Black neighborhood, under a Black support structure, and with a pro-Black mother who was explicitly trying to raise her with AfAm experience is only a weak, partial exposure to the Black American experience.....why can't you admit that Kamala was legitimately raised with that exposure and doesn't have to fake that that's how she was brought up?
She has always claimed Black, or both Black and Indian. She has never claimed solely Indian. When she ran for AG, there were stories out about how the Indian residents of San Francisco were learning about her Indian heritage for the first time, cause they'd always assumed she was just Black.
The "actual" culture she participated in from birth through college was North American black culture. Claiming "it doesn't matter what neighborhood you grew up in" is nonsense. She was raised by a single mother who worked long days, she probably saw her mother 3-4 hours/day tops on weekdays. The rest of the time was spent with her Black classmates, in her Black neighborhood, at her Black community center, in her Black day care, with her Black friends, even sleeping overnight at the homes of her mother's Black friends. How would a single mother working a high-intensity professional job somehow outweigh her entire daily experience?
Go find some son of a Japanese immigrant single mother who was born in America, lives in a White neighborhood, has all White friends, and went to a PWI college where he hangs out exclusively with white kids. Tell me if at 25 he's going to be "culturally Japanese" or completely white-washed.
All the articles show that her mom's social group was Black though, so WTF are you talking about?
Who was her "mom's family" that was raising Kamala? All of the bios explicitly point out that her mom's family was NOT around. Those pictures of her family are from her rare trips to visit India (just like the pictures of Kamala with her Jamican family), they were NOT from anyone living with her lol. You just straight made up an entire narrative in your head.
Do you not know that the Underground Railroad ended in Canada and the Great Migration included immigrants to Canada as well?
Eastern Canadian cities had a melting pot Black culture of new Black folk from the Caribbean and older Black folk from the mainland, just like New York has.
Based on what? Stories from people who actually go there have stated that there were plenty of Americans at the school and that Kamala identified with the black ones.
From Kamala's best friend, who lived with her in her own bedroom for a year:
From an author who attended the same high school several years before Kamala:
Yes you are saying that there are arbitrary substitutes that can effectively make someone the same as a person who grew up in an actual fba household. Its not a concrete thing to you because you've simply never looked at afram culture in that fashion. Afram/fba/ados culture is an up for grabs thing for you. File and check off some type of boxes and your good to go. And thats complete bullshyt. Like i said the concept of black americaness gos as far as its political capability, for types as you. Nothing cultural,lineal,ethno etc at all
and with a pro-Black mother who was explicitly trying to raise her with AfAm experience is only a weak, partial exposure to the Black American experience.....why can't you admit that Kamala was legitimately raised with that exposure and doesn't have to fake that that's how she was brought up?
This doesnt make a lick of sense. So we are supposed to accept an attempt of "black adjacent' forwarded culturally by an indian? Not sure what your getting at
The "actual" culture she participated in from birth through college was North American black culture
lol at you outligning her life down to the amount of hours she spent with her family. She went home every night to an indian mother and household. We are not dumb, our friends shape us yes, but not to the extent where it replaces what happens in the home. A pro black indian woman is just as good as a full blood fba/ados woman. Let me call my mom and tell her none of her cultural norms and nuances matter
the woman that works the cashier at dunkin donuts could have done the same, if she read books about civil rights and martin luther king
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I'm afraid you don't know what real pan African is
Lots of African countries have been pan African. Who do you think were help funding the ANC during the apartied? African countries. Even your country, Nigerian was one of the biggest funders.
Look at how angolans were in the Congos fighting against apartied paid groups.
Even today, pan African is bigger than ever with trade blocs and freedom of movement. You know ...tangible shyt.
Your idea of pan africanism is all symbolic shyt.
For your information, Caribbeans are the original people who came of with the concept of pan africanism. It didn't work in the Caribbeans, and when black Americans adapted it, it didn't work here either.
Rakim Allah
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Rakim Allah
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Rakim Allah
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Out of the 3 tracks he’s presented…the first one was catchy and funny but the last 2 were trash, friend.
I never once said it was "the same". I just said it was part of her experience. You want to claim that Black American culture is effectively zero part of her background, history, and upbringing, which was nonsense.
You are saying that being a Black girl growing up in America, in a Black neighborhood, with Black friends, at a Black church, at a Black community center, raised by a mother who was deeply integrated into Black Radical circles, surrounded by Black surrogate family members who are all deeply committed to the Black experience, frequently sleeping over at Black family friends' homes overnight because her mother was still at work, taking in her best friend to stay in her own bedroom with her for a year......would have absolutely zero impact on how she identifies and that she may as well have grown up in Delhi.
Even though she went on from that experience to attend college at an HBCU, pledge a Black sorority, and become president of the Black Law Students Association.
For you it's the ridiculous all or nothing question. Real culture doesn't work that way in the real world. No two people have the same experience. To pretend that Kamala is just some secret Indian hiding under a fake persona with ZERO evidence other than that her mother is an Indian immigrant is real ignorance.
K.O.N.Y
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I never once said it was "the same". I just said it was part of her experience. You want to claim that Black American culture is effectively zero part of her background, history, and upbringing, which was nonsense.I never once said it was "the same". I just said it was part of her experience. You want to claim that Black American culture is effectively zero part of her background, history, and upbringing, which was nonsense.
You are saying that being a Black girl growing up in America, in a Black neighborhood, with Black friends, at a Black church, at a Black community center, raised by a mother who was deeply integrated into Black Radical circles, surrounded by Black surrogate family members who are all deeply committed to the Black experience, frequently sleeping over at Black family friends' homes overnight because her mother was still at work, taking in her best friend to stay in her own bedroom with her for a year......would have absolutely zero impact on how she identifies and that she may as well have grown up in Delhi.
Even though she went on from that experience to attend college at an HBCU, pledge a Black sorority, and become president of the Black Law Students Association.
For you it's the ridiculous all or nothing question. Real culture doesn't work that way in the real world. No two people have the same experience. To pretend that Kamala is just some secret Indian hiding under a fake persona with ZERO evidence other than that her mother is an Indian immigrant is real ignorance.
Im claiming that its not eatheral or authentic that matches what she claims. She goes for the gusto in this. That collard greens thing was her attempt to be a part of ROOTS afram culture. Which she is not a part of. Collage didn't give her that. Her Jamaican background didn't give her that .Indian mom didn't give her that. Canadian high school didn't give her that.
So what the fukk gave her that other then democratic "black americans are easy game and have no cultural core" gave her that.
White AMERICAN supremacy openly doesn't want our lineage in that place and putting ambiguous negroes in high office to mock us
And again only a black household can create a black fba person. She grew up black adjacent via an indian woman
She's been in the public eye for 20 years, and your anger at her is reduced to ONE story about how she cooks collard greens.
Where did she claim that that's how a "FBA American" cooks collard greens? All she said is that's how she personally does it for her friend's annual party. Maybe that's how some friend in Berkeley made it, or some friend in Montreal, or some friend at Howard, or for all you know she just thought of doing it that way herself (though in the thread about it, about a dozen Coli posters said their relatives had done it the same way). She obviously makes collard greens, you're just upset that she makes them different than you do......why would that be an issue? If she had been making it up, wouldn't she have just done basic research online and copied some popular method?
I think she was telling a random story about herself and didn't realize it would be controversial.
You believe that an educated woman with a law degree did no research just randomly made up a bunch of wrong details for no reason.
Make it make sense.
Let me point out again - you've been making shyt up all over this thread and expressing all this anger here because she talked about how she makes collard greens.
You mean a SLEDGEhammer.
Legit sad shyt those comments are in. Do people hate black immigrants that much that condones ridicule as something less than human, as well as potential GENOCIDE??
People love an enemy. Any enemy. I always say we black folks should never be enemies but at the same time immigrants need to be respectful. It’s disrespect that started these wars. Who goes into @anotherman’s country and disrespects him?
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These Trump supporting black men keep Juelzing instead of saying what they really believe with their whole chest.Legit sad shyt those comments are in. Do people hate black immigrants that much that condones ridicule as something less than human, as well as potential GENOCIDE??
Just say you are willing to risk more racist legislation being enacted in exchange for Republicans targeting your perceived enemies who are women, immigrants, and LGBT folks.
It's the flip side of white women who vote Trump because they hate black folks more than they love their own legal rights.
No need to pretend like you give a fukk about tangibles or ADOS. Just be honest and KIM instead of wasting all these words on your bullshyt arguments about just how black someone has to be to be truly black if they're a liberal.
