Tariq & Akademiks Arguing Over Origins of Hip Hop

[K.O.N.Y]

dig myself out of exactly what ?

all you keep doing is regurgitating insignificant things as 2 turntables , mics , MC’s , special techniques , sound systems etc. etc. which has absolutely nothing to do with the creation of the music …. we all know hip-hop was created by the Breakbeat …. and we all know Herc was the DJ emphasize that Breakbeat

that’s a fact there is nothing else to be said

Stated explicitly in this thread that the break beat did not come from herc

 

[IllmaticDelta]

Flash called out Herc. Did Herc ever respond?

Yeah, he responded back/dissed Flash but the vid isn't on youtube anymore

 

[K.O.N.Y]

Yeah, he responded back/dissed Flash but the vid isn't on youtube anymore

Do you remember what he said

 

[IllmaticDelta]

Do you remember what he said

I remember him saying something along the lines of Flash being a clown and that Flash wasn't a hiphop pioneer. @truth2you might remember who interviewed Herc for that/what was said.

 

[K.O.N.Y]

I remember him saying something along the lines of Flash being a clown and that Flash wasn't a hiphop pioneer. @truth2you might remember who interviewed Herc for that/what was said.

I mean flash did seem to come later. What exactly does make him “pioneer”

 

[kingofnyc]

@kingofnyc
@IllmaticDelta

i never said Herc was a superb DJ

 

[kingofnyc]

Stated explicitly in this thread that the break beat did not come from herc

i see you must’ve missed the word “ emphasized “

 

[IllmaticDelta]

I mean flash did seem to come later. What exactly does make him “pioneer”

Flash isn't a pioneer of hiphop's beginnings but he is a pioneer in hiphop djing/turntablism by way of Disco djing.

 

[K.O.N.Y]

i see you must’ve missed the word “ emphasized “

I actually did not lol

 

[Ish Gibor]

Yeah, he responded back/dissed Flash but the vid isn't on youtube anymore

Ok, thanks. Do you recall the name of the response vid?

I will do some more digging into the Hercules and Flashgorden and see if I can find it.

 

[Pillmattic]

Akademiks need to take that hat off

 

[Ish Gibor]

Akademiks need to take that hat off

Will that change anything?

 

[Pillmattic]

Will that change anything?

No it won’t shyt is way past that point

 

[IllmaticDelta]

Ok, thanks. Do you recall the name of the response vid?

I will do some more digging into the Hercules and Flashgorden and see if I can find it.

Nah, I can't remember the name at all

 

[IllmaticDelta]

i see you must’ve missed the word “ emphasized “

But herc wasn't the first to emphasize "breaks". This is a myth due to younger heads who saw Herc but were not able to witness firsthand the cats who actually pioneered that style of djing in the adult/disco clubs, that herc himself actually went to and peeped game from. Those younger heads incorrectly credit Herc for originating playing the "break" part of the record because they never saw the true pioneers of that style/they saw them much later after they were old enough to get into the adult clubs.