Taliban says Islam orders the killing of that 14 year old activist girl

[Dusty Bake Activate]

Malala Yousufzai: Taliban tries to justify attack

Taliban insurgents have said that the Pakistani schoolgirl its gunmen shot in the head deserved to die because she had spoken out against the group and praised US President Barack Obama.

Malala Yousufzai, 14, was flown to Britain on Monday, where doctors said she has every chance of making a "good recovery".

The attack on Yousufzai, who had been advocating education for girls, drew widespread condemnation.

Pakistani surgeons removed a bullet from near her spinal cord during a three-hour operation the day after the attack last week, but she now needs intensive specialist follow-up care.Authorities have said they have made several arrests in connection with the case but have given no details.

Pakistan's Taliban today described Yousufzai as a "spy of the West"."For this espionage, infidels gave her awards and rewards. And Islam orders killing of those who are spying for enemies," the group said in a statement."

She used to propagate against mujahideen (holy warriors) to defame (the) Taliban. The Quran says that people propagating against Islam and Islamic forces would be killed."We targeted her because she would speak against the Taliban while sitting with shameless strangers and idealised the biggest enemy of Islam, Barack Obama."

Yousufzai, a cheerful schoolgirl who had wanted to become a doctor before agreeing to her father's wishes that she strive to be a politician, has become a potent symbol of resistance against the Taliban's efforts to deprive girls of an education.Pakistanis have held some protests and candlelight vigils but most government officials have refrained from publicly criticising the Taliban by name over the attack, in what critics say is a lack of resolve against extremism."

We did not attack her for raising voice for education. We targeted her for opposing mujahideen and their war," said the Taliban. "Shariah (Islamic law) says that even a child can be killed if he is propagating against Islam."

 

[88m3]

But the Taliban's actions have nothing to with Islam!

 

[radio rahiem]

She used to propagate against mujahideen (holy warriors) to defame (the) Taliban. The Quran says that people propagating against Islam and Islamic forces would be killed."We targeted her because she would speak against the Taliban while sitting with shameless strangers and idealised the biggest enemy of Islam, Barack Obama."

and we still have racists who claim is a muslim

 

[88m3]

and we still have racists who claim is a muslim

The funny thing is Barack Obama probably is the biggest threat to Islam right now!

 

[the cac mamba]

islam

its disgusting how the jihad on here doesnt admit how islam is so easy to interpret so violently. i mean these guys arent just pulling these interpretations out of their ass

 

[Techniec]

But the Taliban's actions have nothing to with Islam!

the taliban represent islam the way the bloods and crips represent the civil rights movement

 

[The Real]

Don't they realize they're digging themselves in deeper and deeper? With all this international scrutiny about this issue, this seems like exactly the wrong kind of damage control.

 

[Techniec]

Don't they realize they're digging themselves in deeper and deeper? With all this international scrutiny about this issue, this seems like exactly the wrong kind of damage control.

they live in a bubble.

 

[88m3]

Don't they realize they're digging themselves in deeper and deeper? With all this international scrutiny about this issue, this seems like exactly the wrong kind of damage control.

Sometimes you have to double down in life.

 

[88m3]

the taliban represent islam the way the bloods and crips represent the civil rights movement

I don't think that comparison works but keep it up

 

[Type Username Here]

If you asked those men, and this interview is proof, if they are righteous Muslim following Islam and the Qu'Ran they would (and have) answered yes.

Then I have people telling me those aren't real Muslims.

I think as a whole religious people don't understand the concept of interpretations of their "holy" books. When someone reads the text, and they interpret it a certain way, who is to say they are wrong? What gives you the right to say their interpretation is wrong? Are you speaking for God? Are you presuming in God's name?

This is a MAJOR fault in ANY religion.

 

[88m3]

If you asked those men, and this interview is proof, if they are righteous Muslim following Islam and the Qu'Ran they would (and have) answered yes.

Then I have people telling me those aren't real Muslims.

I think as a whole religious people don't understand the concept of interpretations of their "holy" books. When someone reads the text, and they interpret it a certain way, who is to say they are wrong? What gives you the right to say their interpretation is wrong? Are you speaking for God? Are you presuming in God's name?

This is a MAJOR fault in ANY religion.

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[FAH1223]

their claims are not Islamic... any sane Muslim will tell you what they did to this kid is heinous and disgusting.

The Taliban is mostly dominated by the Pashtun and they use their Pashtunwali which has many contradictions with the Sharia of Allah SWT. I have a friend whose father was kidnapped by the Taliban (and later released) and he told us about how some of these Taliban prefer their own tribal laws to Sharia ESP with regards to women cause they see the Sharia as too liberal. Honor Killings are haram in Islam but it's part and parcel of Pashtunwali.

Most people do not know what Sharia is, ts simply a framework for generating legislation and is not that different from common law. We believe the foundation is divine , making it the natural law..but there are steps to jurisprudence.

Another friend of mine who has close connects in Afghanistan told me that recently in Afghanistan all the Pashtun tribes were pushing for Sharia, but when the local courts were converted to Sharia courts,the tribes started having trouble with the courts, because Sharia is far more liberal than pushtanwali. These same sort of people shut down those courts because they disagreed with it. Crazy and it shows you that they have warped views not just of Islam, but of common human decency.

When it comes to stoning for adultery, the Taliban have been stoning quite a few women, even when the necessary 4 witnesses were not available. All this bull shid happening when there were only 8 cases of stoning adulterers during the 120 years of Bani Ummaya Khalifate?

Muslims do not know their religion, they do not know their laws, and today you see the results. A group of primitive bedouin got oil money and power and since 1970 have spread their tribal cultural interpretation of islam as sharia and places like Afghanistan/Pakistan are ripe for this.

What we have today is due to colonialism, the insidious influence of the Najd, extreme secularism and and anti-islam attitudes of the first generation of post colonial leaders in the Muslim world, combined with massive lack of education.

Its easy for non-Muslims to go ahead and try to say its our religion. But it flat out isn't.. the situations are much more complicated than you realize and a lot of this shid is due to culture, ignorance, and idiots using Islam in every fukkING cop out claim they have. It is annoying and it is wrong.

 

[Type Username Here]

their claims are not Islamic... any sane Muslim will tell you what they did to this kid is heinous and disgusting.

Friend, thank you for that fantastic post. I don't agree with some of it but you came correct.

My issue is with this point. These men are pointing towards your holy book and hadiths and claiming they are following it.

If you say they are not, aren't you presuming what God's interpretation is? Aren't you equating yourself to god?

Again, this isn't about Islam per se. You can plug any religion in there.

 

[FAH1223]

Friend, thank you for that fantastic post. I don't agree with some of it but you came correct.

My issue is with this point. These men are pointing towards your holy book and hadiths and claiming they are following it.

If you say they are not, aren't you presuming what God's interpretation is? Aren't you equating yourself to god?

Again, this isn't about Islam per se. You can plug any religion in there.

Yes breh, they are trying to bypass requirements in our religion to prosecute people including kids who are doing great work but their paranoia, their insecurities, and what have you has driven these guys as lunatics.

We have many scholars around the world that have decried these idiots actions. The problem with the Taliban, Al-Shabab, etc is that they aren't even using the whole religion. They take bits and pieces, then they cut it up, then they use their cultural baggage and discriminations and voila, you have what you got here.

I think its assasine to just go ahead and blame religion. The situation has many more things in play and religion is just one thing they use to try and gain legitimacy.

In Somalia, you can see how the Somali people have responded to Al-SHabab's bull shid and these teenagers have been driven away from Mogadishu and other areas because the people eventually see through them once they get sick and tired of being abused through false accusations and pretenses so these guys can try to grapple for control.

I can get into ahadith, Qur'an talking about legal issues, about capital punishment, about other things and I can accept them because I have studied this religion as well as history. But what I can not accept is some nikkas who never studied jurisprudence, who never studied the life of the Prophet in intimate detail, and just try to abuse folks to set an example to control them.

My father is in Somalia right now and he sees this shid all the time and tells me about it. But he also tells me the people have really taken it to these nikkas.