Taliban says Islam orders the killing of that 14 year old activist girl

[88m3]

It seems a lot of people in north america dont take the time to actually speak with practicing muslims on "their" beliefs and the rules that stem from them. We dont want to learn about "other" religions and the various interpretations with an open mind. We seem to rely on the negative news stories of the "muslims" (extremists), in which the media perpetuates and shapes our own views and opinions.

But i guess when we live in a world where material possessions, lack of jobs, reality tv, sports, and fear occupy the majority of our brains, its difficult to let other mind opening elements inside

This is such a lame generalization I'm not going to even address it.

 

[upthere]

This is such a lame generalization I'm not going to even address it.

Does this mean you disagree? Is there any truth in the lame generalization, or do you feel its all bs?
I'm always interested in hearing what others think (no troll tho). You probably have legit reasons for saying its a lame generalization and if it isn't too much of a waste of time, i'd like to hear it.

Maybe i can see something I didnt take into account before and be wiser for it. Maybe i shouldve included examples and details?

 

[KillSpray]

people who try to turn these issues into a reason to indict a religion or all religion are totally misguided, and usually have their own personal, possibly repressed reasons for being butt hurt.

Here is the fact, whenever you see activities like these talibans shooting a little girl, or any other heinous act that people commit and claim religion, now and throughout history, what you are seeing is a type of behavior that usually has its roots in certain types of human conditions. conditions that foster ignorance, fear, isolation, jealousy, envy, greed, poverty, desperation will often lead to hate. All of those conditions have existed before religion, and if you could wave a magic wand and make religion disappear they would still exist. And so, people in those conditions would be still be committing similar heinous acts, and using some other excuse for their behavior.

Instead of attacking religion, realize religion is simply a tool for people to express what comes from those conditions. Taking away religion wouldn't change the behavior it would only change the excuse.

 

[Dr. Fauci]

people who try to turn these issues into a reason to indict a religion or all religion are totally misguided, and usually have their own personal, possibly repressed reasons for being butt hurt.

Here is the fact, whenever you see activities like these talibans shooting a little girl, or any other heinous act that people commit and claim religion, now and throughout history, what you are seeing is a type of behavior that usually has its roots in certain types of human conditions. conditions that foster ignorance, fear, isolation, jealousy, envy, greed, poverty, desperation will often lead to hate. All of those conditions have existed before religion, and if you could wave a magic wand and make religion disappear they would still exist. And so, people in those conditions would be still be committing similar heinous acts, and using some other excuse for their behavior.

Instead of attacking religion, realize religion is simply a tool for people to express what comes from those conditions. Taking away religion wouldn't change the behavior it would only change the excuse.

Religion gives them that crutch to justify their actions


I truely think, that in the name of religion, they believe what they are doing is justified.



I hear what ure saying...but u cant just act like their religion isnt creating longevity in their behaviors in the middle east and killing that society from evolving on a human rights level

 

[acri1]

If you asked those men, and this interview is proof, if they are righteous Muslim following Islam and the Qu'Ran they would (and have) answered yes.

Then I have people telling me those aren't real Muslims.

I think as a whole religious people don't understand the concept of interpretations of their "holy" books. When someone reads the text, and they interpret it a certain way, who is to say they are wrong? What gives you the right to say their interpretation is wrong? Are you speaking for God? Are you presuming in God's name?

This is a MAJOR fault in ANY religion.

Religious people pretty much commit the No True Scotsman fallacy almost nonstop, anytime religious issues come up. I've pretty much given up on trying to point it out.

 

[KillSpray]

Religion gives them that crutch to justify their actions


I truely think, that in the name of religion, they believe what they are doing is justified.



I hear what ure saying...but u cant just act like their religion isnt creating longevity in their behaviors in the middle east and killing that society from evolving on a human rights level

my point is, a crutch is a crutch. it doesn't matter what it is. that's how rationalization works. if it wasn't islam, it would be something else. focusing on islam, and saying oh, thats a crutch is backwards thinking. these people are homicidal maniacs with or without religion. you and i cannot understand the mind of a homicidal maniac, so its pointless to try. to say, oh i honestly believe they feel justified is pointless. it doesn't matter what you honestly believe, unless you are a homicidal maniac, you can't understand how the mind of one works. however that person rationalizes his behavior is besides the point, the problem is that he is a homicidal maniac, not that he also has a godly way of rationalizing his behavior. these people are fukked up in the head, thats the problem, not religion.

 

[Turenne]

the taliban represent islam the way the bloods and crips represent the civil rights movement

Dumb smart person quote right here.

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

*reads quran*








































Nope dont remember reading bout that, what sura is it?






Can yall tell me?



































No?































Ok stfu


Salaam

What part of the Quran is this though?

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[Dr. Fauci]

my point is, a crutch is a crutch. it doesn't matter what it is. that's how rationalization works. if it wasn't islam, it would be something else. focusing on islam, and saying oh, thats a crutch is backwards thinking. these people are homicidal maniacs with or without religion. you and i cannot understand the mind of a homicidal maniac, so its pointless to try. to say, oh i honestly believe they feel justified is pointless. it doesn't matter what you honestly believe, unless you are a homicidal maniac, you can't understand how the mind of one works. however that person rationalizes his behavior is besides the point, the problem is that he is a homicidal maniac, not that he also has a godly way of rationalizing his behavior. these people are fukked up in the head, thats the problem, not religion.

its not individuals though...its a culture. they arent coming out as singulars, its a giant group culture out there

 

[Just like bruddas]

What part of the Quran is this though?

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U answer mine and i answer yours

 

[Type Username Here]

Religious people pretty much commit the No True Scotsman fallacy almost nonstop, anytime religious issues come up. I've pretty much given up on trying to point it out.

Should be changed to "Religious Fallacy".

 

[GetInTheTruck]

The Taliban say a lot of things.

 

[alybaba]

Here is their Islamic reasoning behind the attack

"TTP successfully targeted Malala Yousafzai in Mingora although she was young and a girl and TTP does not believe in attacking on women, but whom so ever leads campaign against Islam & Shariah is Ordered to be killed by Shariah. When its a matter of Shariah, and someone tries to bring fitnah with his/her activities, and it involves in leading a campaign against shariah and tries to involve whole community in such campaign, and that personality become a symbol of anti shariah campaign, not just its allowed to kill such person but its Obligatory in Islam. If anyone Argues about her so young age , then the Story of Hazrat Khizar in Quran that relates that Hazrat Khizar while Traveling with Prophet Musa (AS) killed a child, arguing about the reason of his killing he said that the parents of this child are Pious and in future he will cause bad name for them. If anyone argues that she was female, then we can see the incident of killing of wife by a blind Companion of Prophet Muhammad (S.A.W.W) because she use to say insultive words for prophet.And prophet praised this act. Its a clear command of shariah that any female, that by any means play role in war against mujahideen, should be killed."

 

[boskey]

Where are the "sane" muslims at? Theres a conspicuous silence from moderate muslims around the world. I know mad muslim folks so I know that the extremists don't speak for 99% of them. But when 99% of the media coverage about islam is just heinous crimes...you gotta say something right?

And I know there is always going to be bias "but when we do something positive the media ignores us, theyd rather talk about terrorists in caves" etc etc. But Im saying beyond just PR spin, the extremists have branded themselves the "defenders" of islam and you dont hear or see a lot of effort to counter that message. And it seems to be other muslims that are suffering from the violence way more than westerners. Where is the push to get muslims to embrace moderate islam and to stop the spread of radicalism in the mideast and abroad (Nigeria for example)?

Is it a cultural thing that prevents a strong moderate voice? Is it fear of becoming targets? Is this just not a priority? Or maybe there is a huge movement that people just aren't aware of...

 

[Type Username Here]

Here is their Islamic reasoning behind the attack

"TTP successfully targeted Malala Yousafzai in Mingora although she was young and a girl and TTP does not believe in attacking on women, but whom so ever leads campaign against Islam & Shariah is Ordered to be killed by Shariah. When its a matter of Shariah, and someone tries to bring fitnah with his/her activities, and it involves in leading a campaign against shariah and tries to involve whole community in such campaign, and that personality become a symbol of anti shariah campaign, not just its allowed to kill such person but its Obligatory in Islam. If anyone Argues about her so young age , then the Story of Hazrat Khizar in Quran that relates that Hazrat Khizar while Traveling with Prophet Musa (AS) killed a child, arguing about the reason of his killing he said that the parents of this child are Pious and in future he will cause bad name for them. If anyone argues that she was female, then we can see the incident of killing of wife by a blind Companion of Prophet Muhammad (S.A.W.W) because she use to say insultive words for prophet.And prophet praised this act. Its a clear command of shariah that any female, that by any means play role in war against mujahideen, should be killed."

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So they are citing Islamic holy sources and hadiths?

Alybaba, why do you think the peaceful Muslims ignore this and pretend it doesn't exist in their texts?