Taliban Bans All Images of Living Things

[num123]

We did gang,
We trained them, Afghanis ran ops with us. They had the funding and equipment.

But you can’t train courage.
When we left alot of the fighters we trained threw in the towel.

Lotta Rangers, and Marines got fukked up over training and supporting them.

It was not your fault. Endemic corruption, lack of education and rose colored glasses from the U.S. fukked what could of been an actual deterrent to the Taliban:

Then there was lack of leadership. The Afghan National Army struggled to find qualified commanders to lead the soldiers. Over the years, we met Afghan generals praised by the U.S. military, only to find out later the generals were replaced for incompetence or corruption.


Some generals pocketed pay meant for soldiers. Others were supposed to buy the best rice for their troops. Instead they bought the cheapest and lowest quality possible and pocketed the difference. Still others sold government-issued firewood meant to keep the troops warm.


Frotan said the system was marked by cronyism, with not enough loyalty to the troops. The leaders were not only corrupt. Some of them were illiterate.


"They don't know how to write. They don't know how to read," Frotan said. "How to be professional soldiers and leadership is very, very important."




The lack of education led to basic problems with tasks such as maintaining equipment, from rifles to vehicles, to ordering spare parts.


And not knowing how to write meant these leaders couldn't even read the maps properly. NPR was with an Afghan army unit six years ago when it was shooting artillery rounds at the Taliban. It was off by a kilometer because it couldn't figure out the proper grid coordinates.


Not only that, but Frotan says commanders often had trouble filing simple paperwork to give soldiers time off.


"They don't have enough knowledge, so they cannot make a good schedule for their vacation," Frotan said. So with no proper time off, that meant burnout among the troops, which led to high attrition rates.


Years ago, a U.S. general told us that not only couldn't many of the Afghan officers read or write, but they couldn't count. He said the Americans at times would draw a large rectangle in the dirt, telling the officers they needed enough soldiers to fill that space.

The Afghans could do little without U.S. support. The U.S. soldiers in the field knew the truth. But during this time, from the Defense Department to the White House to Congress, officials had the same thing to say: The Afghan army is getting better every day. They are fighting hard. They are leading.


Many of these problems were outlined in numerous reports by John Sopko, the special inspector general for Afghanistan reconstruction. But these reports never seemed to resonate with members of Congress or prompt oversight hearings, like the Fulbright hearings during the Vietnam War.

But there was another very powerful fighting force: the Afghan commandos. They were highly trained soldiers, some 22,000 of them among the 300,000 Afghan troops, and they were the backbone of Afghanistan's fighting power. Over the years, they were stretched thin, flying all over the country to back up regular Afghan army units that couldn't or wouldn't fight. They often complained about this to NPR reporters. One told us they were meant for special missions, not to handle basic operations that were supposed to be the job of rank-and-file soldiers.


As the Taliban advanced throughout the country during those final weeks, the commandos faced a chilling reality. One commando from the south told us that no one in his unit wanted to surrender. They were there to fight the Taliban. But the Kabul government ordered them to lay down their arms.


"We were no longer safe," the commando said. "We had to take refuge in our friends' houses, and now we are hiding."

This whole thing was an abject failure that could of been mitigated if not prevented.

 

[Mister Terrific]

You are talking as if every family in the country has a Bacha Bazi boy in their closet, when that is not the case. We helped and exacerbated the issue with who we supported and ignoring the abuse. Those people should have never been in powered and should have been executed when found out, but we let them be because we were more worried about the Taliban than boys getting assaulted.

The literal practice dates back to the 9th century. Explorers, conquerors, historians all comment on it. “Boy you guys really like fukking little boys don’t you?” We didn’t exacerbate shyt.

Afghanistan was known for centuries in the Middle East as to where you go and get little slave boys. The Taliban were in power for barely a decade. You think they shut that shyt down? No what likely happened is because westerners were in the country it was being reported on. The taliban like the US does not control all of Afghanistan either.

Afghan “society” is rotten to its core. You’d need 1,000,000 soldiers like what we had in Germany after WW2 to get that shyt in line.

 

[Pazzy]

CIA still at it huh?

 

[num123]

The literal practice dates back to the 9th century. Explorers, conquerors, historians all comment on it. “Boy you guys really like fukking little boys don’t you?” We didn’t exacerbate shyt.

Afghanistan was known for centuries in the Middle East as to where you go and get little slave boys. The Taliban were in power for barely a decade. You think they shut that shyt down? No what likely happened is because westerners were in the country it was being reported on. The taliban like the US does not control all of Afghanistan either.

Afghan “society” is rotten to its core. You’d need 1,000,000 soldiers like what we had in Germany after WW2 to get that shyt in line.

I dont give a fukk if it was around when Alexander the Great took the region, we were there and instead of fighting against it we allowed it to come back stronger than ever. Straight up ignored it and punished soldiers that tried to fight against it. You cant talk about this without pointing at us for covering our eyes when it was literally in front of us.

 

[Lucky_Lefty]

The Taliban had that autonomy but gave it up when they wanted to protect the terrorists that were a part of 9/11, fukk them:

United States invasion of Afghanistan - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

As a teenager i did not want us to invade, rather to bomb that shythole even closer to the Stone Age that it already is.

Did you ever put your name on the dotted line and assist with the bombing that “shyt hole” back to the Stone Age? I’m not trying to cast any assertions about you but you sound like one of them white boys who talked all that shyt when I was in then once they got out and saw that invasion for what it was, now blames the US government for their current status in life

 

[Lucky_Lefty]

The literal practice dates back to the 9th century. Explorers, conquerors, historians all comment on it. “Boy you guys really like fukking little boys don’t you?” We didn’t exacerbate shyt.

Afghanistan was known for centuries in the Middle East as to where you go and get little slave boys. The Taliban were in power for barely a decade. You think they shut that shyt down? No what likely happened is because westerners were in the country it was being reported on. The taliban like the US does not control all of Afghanistan either.

Afghan “society” is rotten to its core. You’d need 1,000,000 soldiers like what we had in Germany after WW2 to get that shyt in line.

And the Taliban really only controlled certain pockets of the country. Them hard to reach regions were pretty much doing their own thing

 

[num123]

Did you ever put your name on the dotted line and assist with the bombing that “shyt hole” back to the Stone Age? I’m not trying to cast any assertions about you but you sound like one of them white boys who talked all that shyt when I was in then once they got out and saw that invasion for what it was, now blames the US government for their current status in life

What part of "I did not want us to invade Afghanistan" do you not get? Bombings and limited special forces would of been infinitely better than a 20 year occupation. But since we did we had an obligation to make it a functioning society, one that would reject and resist the Taliban, but we did not.

 

[⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐]

Once upon a time Afghanistan was a destination for college trust fund hippies

 

[Cuban Pete]

Respectfully I was over there (Marines) and it’s not a video game. It’s not that simple lol. Because of the terrain it’s literally one of the most difficult “if not the most” to establish firm control whether we speaking logistics or establishing territory. The people are not as cooperative. (We are the colonizers , so I definitely understand that obviously) but those relations never smoothed out in which made things even more difficult.. Remember there were a lot of lives lost trying to “light them up and “flush them out” . I know people who didn’t make it home. The government didn’t know what they were fukking doing. They even admit that, and we surely as soldiers knew that. Everyone knows that. But We don’t deserve to stay there if operations aren’t effective for whatever reasons. That region is not our sole responsibility. It was long enough and time to get the fukk out. The government admitted they more than fumbled the ball, but we can’t continue that campaign and keep deploying our youth forever there, while they keep trying to figure things out

shyt I had friends that went to Iraq and they told me Iraqis were way easier to deal with than what they heard from brehs that went to Afghanistan

 

[Lucky_Lefty]

What part of "I did not want us to invade Afghanistan" do you not get? Bombings and limited special forces would have been infinitely better than a 20 year occupation. But since we did we had an obligation to make it a functioning society, one that would reject and resist the Taliban, but we did not.

Did you sign the dotted line and do your part? The actually doing of what you wanted to see happen there.

 

[num123]

Did you sign the dotted line and do your part? The actually doing of what you wanted to see happen there.

What are you even referring to with this "dotted line"? Speak plainly and not in riddles.

 

[Lucky_Lefty]

What are you even referring to with this "dotted line"? Speak plainly and not in riddles.

Oh you can STFU about what was supposed to happen then. If you weren’t willing to sign up and take up a post, your opinion on what was supposed or needed to happen is null and void on this topic. Thanks for your service keyboard grunt

 

[TaxCollector13459]

What are you even referring to with this "dotted line"? Speak plainly and not in riddles.

Oh, he’s asking you if you ever enlisted/commissioned .

What part of "I did not want us to invade Afghanistan" do you not get? Bombings and limited special forces would of been infinitely better than a 20 year occupation. But since we did we had an obligation to make it a functioning society, one that would reject and resist the Taliban, but we did not.

Brother we did! Lol
Women were getting educated, children were starting too as well. Their fighters are the ones who quit. That’s why the first thing they did was shut the colleges down and sent the women back home.

I can can only put my Rangers on the line through so much especially if they don’t wanna put that other foot forward.

To be fair they did alright as long as we watched over operations but that shii got tiring because it was basically us still doing everything and so the American people wanted us home

 

[num123]

Oh you can STFU about what was supposed to happen then. If you weren’t willing to sign up and take up a post, your opinion on what was supposed or needed to happen is null and void on this topic. Thanks for your service keyboard grunt

What the fukk are you talking about you idiot? Oh, so the only way you can talk about the military actions in Afghanistan is if i was a foot soldier? What about if i was just a cook? Or in I.T.?

What, i can't talk about the corruption of the nation and how we were complicit if i was not an employee of the Department of State? You said some real retarded shyt because you can not give a equivalent retort to anything i said.

 

[Lucky_Lefty]

What the fukk are you talking about you idiot? Oh, so the only way you can talk about the military actions in Afghanistan is if i was a foot soldier? What about if i was just a cook? Or in I.T.?

What, i can't talk about the corruption of the nation and how we were complicit if i was not an employee of the Department of State? You said some real retarded shyt because you can not give an equivalent retort to anything i said.

Nothing you said was anything of merit. You only wanted to send them back to the Stone Age. Your mind was already set on what you wanted to happen over there. I’d like to think if that’s how you felt you would’ve let your patriotism to see the task all the way thru get you to get up off your ass and do your part. But nope, here you are, sounding like a disgruntled white boy. Probably had shin splints or something