unfortunately not in our lifetime
Ta-Nehisi Coates dropping more gems on why blacks still getting screwed
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Red Shield
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You are using tokens as a sign of a racial coalition
If Trump wins, all 1 has to do is look at Europe. Cacs are more xenophobic than ever and support austerity, there is no class war or rainbow coalition.
What I'm saying is.. is they will/do want the help, but will toss us aside as soon as they make gains from their elite
Whites in europe is a different story, not the same racial history or populations. Don't take that as me disagreeing with what you just stated about europe tho.
Red Shield
Global Domination
I think the opportunity will be there in our lifetime to forge our own nation. just need IT to happen
whether that nation amounts to anything great... yea probably not in our lifetime
The_King_of_Everything
Yeah.
It's not my place to tell people who to vote for I just hope all of us will participate because a lot of us don't think our voices are important.
That mentality needs to be broken. Black people have a voice we just need to have one collectively.
You can, that is how things like voting rights work. You don't change people, you change laws and society eventually catches up. You cannot extinguish racism itself, but you can get rid of the most insidious effects of racism. Coates has never offered the "how" for any of his most ambitious ideas. He partakes in intellectualism exercises. Sanders recently spoke out about how reparations is untenable and Coates used that to write an article. He was pointing out how it is logically inconsistent. Where he fails is that he ignores that Sanders has embraced Black Lives Matter--another unpopular position among the general populace--in a way that the other candidates (HIllary and Repubs have not).
Coates is taking an all or nothing approach, and his excuse is that you would expect more from a Sanders than a Clinton--which is reasonable. But the timing of it seems very questionable given how the polls have heated up. He could have written this article whenever than to put Sanders in a position of dealing with this issue in a primary or in a general election. He lists Lincoln and LBJ and ignores the fact that those people--like Grant--took actions after they were already President. No one is going to campaign on reparations and it is so ridiculous of a thing to assert into the debate for someone with his platform and he knows it. He knew he would get this reaction. He chose to be a provocateur.
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lol
Adolph Reed has some nice thoughts..... for a different world.
in this world if you're black... race comes before class.
Since whites don't get hit by race, they can just worry about class. We don't have that luxury
he's not denying that
"if you assume that the interests and the structures which generate inequality, dispossession and misery are not amenable to the petitions to the enlightened ruling class from one section of the oppressed, then the only way we’re going to be able to make anyone’s life better is to change the terms of political debate. And we can only do that on the basis of common experience and the most broadly shared experience is that of those who work for a living or are expected to work for a living. And I don’t see how we can get to any sort of a better world going through any other route. And we certainly can’t do it by hanging out, like McKesson and John Legend (in his own mind) with the Broad Foundation and Bruce Rauner and TFA and people like that."
and this is not RADICAL position. like they said MLK and Fred Hampton was already on this path.
I would not be shocked to see Coates with his own MSNBC show.
King Kreole
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151_Pr00f
All Star
Wrong.
Google the Justice is Not for Sale act. Read it thouroghly, then give us some feedback.
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so basically Coates is bytching about Bernie not being radical enough on the issue of reparations without offering black voters any clear direction or alternatives.Like a poster earlier in the thread said this mutherfukker just likes to hear himself speak and needs to sit the fukk down
If you are familiar with the "Southern Strategy", You know that race and class are intertwined.
If you want to solve the race problem, solve the class problem.
If you want to solve the race problem, solve the class problem.
The Odum of Ala Igbo
Hail Biafra!
A rising tide does not lift all boats. In order to solve the 'race problem', you need targeted policies to help black people. Call it reparations. Call it whatever but you need it. Sanders is unwilling to do so because he fears white reactionaries.
Who made this charge and on what ground?