Switch 2 pictures leaks

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Digital foundry seams to think around PS4 level will be best case scenario.

The steam deck is priced more than nintendo usually prices their consoles, so unless we think Nintendo is gonna sell a $5-600 console. Steam deck performance is probably the absolute most anyone should expect from switch 2 if not less when it comes to considering battery life.

Most current gen games don’t work on steam deck or they are severely compromised beyond what people would accept on a home console.

Ah yeah, I know about that Digital Foundry video. I'm not going to say they don't know what they're talking about but keep in mind they're only making speculations and some assumptions on the next device, like for example that the node Nintendo will use is Samsung 8nm when it has not been confirmed by any source. They do not have absolute knowledge on the performance of the next console, for example they assumed the PS5 pro would be 33,5 Teraflops based on their source and based their expectations on that claim but it turned to be 16 Tflops. They're good analysts but they don't have anymore information on the Switch 2 performance than what we have. They also said that the Switch 2 will benefit from the use of more recent technology than the PS4 did and the DLSS will definitely be a plus too, and that as i said, some current gen titles could end up on it. It's more nuanced than "the Switch 2 will be at PS4 level".

"I'd also expect current-gen titles targeting 60fps to somehow find their way across to Switch 2, likely running at 30fps instead. The next few months should prove fascinating."

I'm not even sure if they're talking about handheld mode or docked mode in this video as they're keeping it pretty ambiguous. PS4 level in handheld mode is what most people expect based on the leaks we have. Truth is, nobody really knows what the games will look like until Nintendo does a showcase of their next Switch, but the specs we know as of today are pretty good and show a positive future for Nintendo, as long as they don't mess up their communication.
 

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Ah yeah, I know about that Digital Foundry video. I'm not going to say they don't know what they're talking about but keep in mind they're only making estimations and some assumptions on the next device, like for example that the node Nintendo will use is Samsung 8nm when it has not confirmed by any source. They do not have absolute knowledge on the performance of the next console, for example they assumed the PS5 pro would be 33,5 Teraflops based on their source and based their expectations on that claim but it turned to be 16 Tflops. They're good analysts but they don't have anymore information on the Switch 2 performance than what we have. They also said that the Switch 2 will benefit from the use of more recent technology than the PS4 did and the DLSS will definitely be a plus too, and that as i said, some current gen titles could end up on it. It's more nuanced than "the Switch 2 will be at PS4 level".

"I'd also expect current-gen titles targeting 60fps to somehow find their way across to Switch 2, likely running at 30fps instead. The next few months should prove fascinating."

I'm not even sure if they're talking about handheld mode or docked mode in this video as they're keeping it pretty ambiguous. PS4 level in handheld mode is what most people expect based on the leaks we have. Truth is, nobody really knows what the games will look like until Nintendo does a showcase of their next Switch, but the specs we know for now
As far as i know there aren’t any current switch games that work in docked mode but not handled mode.

So whatever the handheld mode is, the ports will have to run in handheld mode as the baseline.

I just don’t think there is very many 3rd party games that could run on the switch 2 with reasonable performance AND be worthwhile for devs to spend the time/money on a port.

Same way switch got very few ps4 ports i expect switch 2 to get very few PS5 ports, if any at all.

Would really like to see if Witcher 3 on switch was really worthwhile for CDPR.

That’s the litmus test imo. They put lots of work into that port. I wonder how much money they actually made on it.
 

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How is it 2025 and people are still expecting Nintendo to have good graphics? How many generations of this do we need before gamers finally accept that Nintendo will never be cutting edge when it comes to tech
Because they were at one point?
Because it’s 2025 and 2013-level graphics aren’t the wave?
 

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How is it 2025 and people are still expecting Nintendo to have good graphics? How many generations of this do we need before gamers finally accept that Nintendo will never be cutting edge when it comes to tech

Can and not want to so they can fleece their customers are two different things.

Over 10 year old PS4 graphical capability and you know this shyt ain't gonna be priced lower than the current 350 Oled Switch Price.

These nikkaz are despicable. :mjlol:
 

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How is it 2025 and people are still expecting Nintendo to have good graphics? How many generations of this do we need before gamers finally accept that Nintendo will never be cutting edge when it comes to tech

Breh, they reset every genreation like clockwork.

i been hearing about how nintendo is finally gonna make a powerful system and get all 3rd party games again since the WII.
 

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It's been over 20 years since Nintendo had a "powerful" system lol. We never will get that Gamecube era of being the 2nd most powerful console on the market. It was great though to have games with visuals on better than PS2 and close to Xbox though back then :wow:
 

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So Nintendo fleecing again :martin:
Gonna be interesting to see how this plays out.

Nintendo has never had to sell a console on just “better graphics” before.

Unless they got some amazing gimmick tucked i don’t think switch 2 will be the smashing success people are saying it will be
 

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People talk out both sides of their mouth regarding this.

they LAMBAST sony and other devs for spending all this money on “GWAPHIX” and go on and on with the narrative that all this shyt is unsustainable then go on to praise Nintendo for making AA games that net them a huge return on profit. Nintendo are the “smart” ones for not chasing graphical fidelity and laying off their developers yada yada…

now that there’s a new generation of consoles people are disappointed that Nintendo isn’t doing exactly what they’ve been shytting on Sony and Microsoft for doing. You can’t have it all, you can’t stroke nintendo for getting the most out of so very little, and then be surprised they ain’t going above and beyond for their loyal customers with tech updates.

its either yall want the shoddy ass pokemon games so nintendo can continue to thrive, or you want pokemon to look like ratchet and clank and fire devs when it sells 3 million copies.
 

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Because they were at one point?
Because it’s 2025 and 2013-level graphics aren’t the wave?
I mean they were like that from the SNES → Gamecube. The issue is since PlayStation started making consoles, 3rd party support was a struggle. Hell the Switch is the best 3rd party support we have seen for Nintendo since the SNES. Which really says a lot about how terrible their 3rd party support and how much heavy lifting their 1st party IP's. Honestly, Switch 2 3rd party support can be decent since we're still getting 3rd party PS4 games even 5 years into this Gen.

Nintendo has just about exited out of the console market and doubled down on their handhelds. Which have sold great with each iteration. Yes the Switch can be played as a console, but it holds a lot of the limitations that a handheld holds, which is better to expect from that.

If you're playing games for graphics, Nintendo is not for you, and they won't change for that. Though if you want to play Nintendo games, you are going to buy their hardware or else you're bound to play something else. I am intrigued with the whole Yuzu lawsuit if Nintendo tries to do what the Sony did with the PS4 and made it hard and not worth it to emulate.
 
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