Swaziland bans 'Rape-Provoking Clothing'

[Julius Skrrvin]

Kool G Trap, swaziland is not muslim and they don't do that four witnesses stuff (which very few muslim countries do anyway) it's distasteful for you to throw that all out in here

edited out for inaccuracy/respect

 

[The Real]

You want to take away guns to protect children. Why not take away hoe uniforms to protect p*ssy? For a country like Swaziland which is underdeveloped, it seems necessary.

That's not a clean analogy. We're talking about curtailing the victims' rights here. A more appropriate comparison to what you're suggesting would be to restrict the freedoms of the children in some way, because they are the potential victims, like telling them not to go to school, instead of going after the psychos/gun users.

 

[Crakface]

so people should not be able to dress how they want because another person can not control themselves?

They don't care about women but only using this as an excuse to control them.

Well if they want to increase their chances of being raped i guess they have some decisions to make. Seems like the government is trying to crack down on these complaints by forcing the women to have more respect for themselves. The countries that control their women the most, have the least amount of rapes.

Should people not be able to have assault rifles because a few maniacs did bad things with them?

 

[Crakface]

That's not a clean analogy. We're talking about curtailing the victims' rights here. A more appropriate comparison to what you're suggesting would be to restrict the freedoms of the children in some way, because they are the potential victims, like telling them not to go to school, instead of going after the psychos/gun users.

Would you rather women dress like whores or not get raped? Law enforcement in Swaziland have more important things to do then to investigate all these rapes. Better that women are put on hoe curfew for a bit until things die down and then maybe later, they can have their hoe rights back.

 

[TheBigBopper]

Hi

 

[Broke Wave]

mowgli and ramdam go back to TLR

 

[The Real]

Would you rather women dress like whores or not get raped? Law enforcement in Swaziland have more important things to do then to investigate all these rapes. Better that women are put on hoe curfew for a bit until things die down and then maybe later, they can have their hoe rights back.

False choice, friend. That's the entire point of my argument, so restating that same choice is meaningless.

As for catching rapists being relatively unimportant, that's on you. Obviously, I disagree that criminals who terrorize and target half the population's safety and rights are unimportant. I hope if you have a daughter, she changes your mind about that, especially in a country like our own where 1 out of every 3 women will be sexually assaulted in her lifetime.

Lastly, as all studies indicate, rape is primarily about power, not seduction, so making women dress differently won't change much. Rape rates in country's where all the women are veiled aren't particularly different from countries where they are allowed to wear revealing clothing. Women will get raped as long as rapists are enabled by cultures that focus on the victims instead of on them.

 

[Bud Bundy]

Well if they want to increase their chances of being raped i guess they have some decisions to make. Seems like the government is trying to crack down on these complaints by forcing the women to have more respect for themselves. The countries that control their women the most, have the least amount of rapes.

Should people not be able to have assault rifles because a few maniacs did bad things with them?

interesting stance. You don't mind taking away personal freedom as long as it benefits those in power and leaves others powerless. Is the government reacting the right way to this problem?

And it seems to me that the countries that control there women have the least unreported rapes.

Your attitude is very chauvinistic are you against women or are you just against personal freedom and believe people should be controlled.

And to answer your question I am not sure. If people want assault rifles i know they will get them but should they be denied to general public? I personally have no need for an assault rifle but i don't mind a responsible person owning them. But the bigger issue her is will that stop a crazy person from killing kids I don't know. But that question had nothing to do with this topic and is a weak analogy.

 

[Crakface]

False choice, friend. That's the entire point of my argument, so restating that same choice is meaningless.

As for catching rapists being relatively unimportant, that's on you. Obviously, I disagree that criminals who terrorize and target half the population's safety and rights are unimportant. I hope if you have a daughter, she changes your mind about that, especially in a country like our own where 1 out of every 3 women will be sexually assaulted in her lifetime.

Lastly, as all studies indicate, rape is primarily about power, not seduction, so making women dress differently won't change much. Rape rates in country's where all the women are veiled aren't particularly different from countries where they are allowed to wear revealing clothing. Women will get raped as long as rapists are enabled by cultures that focus on the victims instead of on them.

Nope. You are wrong. The veiled countries have less rapes then unveiled. The top ten most raped are pretty liberal with their women so its to be expected that more of them will be raped because the women flash so much flesh.

There is a conditioning process that has to be rolled out that allows women to dress like whores and the men respect their boundaries. Then again, what would be the point of walking around undressed for the women at that point because the reason theyre doing it is to entice the men they want sexually. This conditioning will not be happening in Swaziland so in order to protect the women, this is what needs to be done.

There will be no magical respect that makes men suddenly not rape women in this country so its a responsibility of leadership to take measures to ensure the safety of the gals.

In your world, they will continuously be raped but (at least they get to dress slutty)

What an even trade.

 

[The Real]

Nope. You are wrong. The veiled countries have less rapes then unveiled. The top ten most raped are pretty liberal with their women so its to be expected that more of them will be raped because the women flash so much flesh.

Absolutely false. In fact, in those countries, men have even more direct power over the women. In a country like Saudi Arabia, rape cases are rarely taken seriously, the victim is often blamed (and often punished for being raped by whippings, imprisonment, etc.) the cases are never taken down, etc. The amount of actual rapes vs the amount of rapes that end up being reported and then taken up as criminal cases is vastly different.

The countries with the highest rape stats are Western countries because those are the countries where rape is taken most seriously as a crime and where the statistics about rape are properly logged. Not only is that common sense, it's also proven fact. Look it up, friend.

There is a conditioning process that has to be rolled out that allows women to dress like whores and the men respect their boundaries. Then again, what would be the point of walking around undressed for the women at that point because the reason theyre doing it is to entice the men they want sexually. This conditioning will not be happening in Swaziland so in order to protect the women, this is what needs to be done.

There will be no magical respect that makes men suddenly not rape women in this country so its a responsibility of leadership to take measures to ensure the safety of the gals.

In your world, they will continuously be raped but (at least they get to dress slutty)

What an even trade.

No, there will be no respect without the work it takes to change the culture and to deal with rapists. But you'd rather put a bandaid over a gunshot wound by focusing on what women wear, which in the end, just helps the rapists continue to do what they do. Your position is essentially pro-rapist.

 

[Crakface]

Nope. You are wrong. The veiled countries have less rapes then unveiled. The top ten most raped are pretty liberal with their women so its to be expected that more of them will be raped because the women flash so much flesh.

Absolutely false. In fact, in those countries, men have even more direct power over the women. In a country like Saudi Arabia, rape cases are rarely taken seriously, the victim is often blamed (and often punished for being raped by whippings, imprisonment, etc.) the cases are never taken down, etc. The amount of actual rapes vs the amount of rapes that end up being reported and then taken up as criminal cases is vastly different.

The countries with the highest rape stats are Western countries because those are the countries where rape is taken most seriously as a crime and where the statistics about rape are properly logged. Not only is that common sense, it's also proven fact. Look it up, friend.





No, there will be no respect without the work it takes to change the culture and to deal with rapists. But you'd rather put a bandaid over a gunshot wound by focusing on what women wear, which in the end, just helps the rapists continue to do what they do. Your position is essentially pro-rapist.

By work it take you mean more rape. I guess women should just eat those rapes until men naturally stop associating the rapey garb with a woman who is asking to be raped. It hasnt worked in France, i doubt it will work in Swaziland. What will happen, is the same thing that happens in those countries. People will stop caring about rape victims as the despair of the raped is trumped by the applause of the whores who cheer their freedom to degrade their country morally. All good though. We need tramps

 

[Crakface]

interesting stance. You don't mind taking away personal freedom as long as it benefits those in power and leaves others powerless. Is the government reacting the right way to this problem?

And it seems to me that the countries that control there women have the least unreported rapes.

Your attitude is very chauvinistic are you against women or are you just against personal freedom and believe people should be controlled.

And to answer your question I am not sure. If people want assault rifles i know they will get them but should they be denied to general public? I personally have no need for an assault rifle but i don't mind a responsible person owning them. But the bigger issue her is will that stop a crazy person from killing kids I don't know. But that question had nothing to do with this topic and is a weak analogy.

Think of it as a form of martial law. When a problem becomes so serious that its taking up valuable time for a police force, government, drastic changes have to be made to address the issue so the gov. can work on more serious issues. Once the more serious issues are addressed more freedoms are granted and people can go on complaining about frivilous things.

In this case you have 2 options. Let women get raped or change the way women dress. The options others present which is protect the womens right to dress like tramps is not really an option because this is a nation that is heavy handed on their women. You cant say *well they should be stopped from being heavy handed* This is a joke because none of you is going to pick up a gun, go to Swaziland and start a revolution for womens rights to dress like hoes You mine as well get that thought out your rabid ass mind.

We dont have many options at this point to protect these women in the confines of the culture of Swaziland because the culture is not going to be changed right now. I think the government is taking the right approach by restricting the clothing the women wear. In time, after subtle brainwashing from the west and western influenced media new generations will slowly become accustomed to women dressing whoreish and wanting to rape them less, hopefully. At that point women can begin dressin trampish and they'll be so excited about their rebellion that no one will really care about the instances of rape that occur to these women because of their freedom to be sluts. Like America and Europe.

 

[The Real]

By work it take you mean more rape. I guess women should just eat those rapes until men naturally stop associating the rapey garb with a woman who is asking to be raped. It hasnt worked in France, i doubt it will work in Swaziland. What will happen, is the same thing that happens in those countries. People will stop caring about rape victims as the despair of the raped is trumped by the applause of the whores who cheer their freedom to degrade their country morally. All good though. We need tramps

I don't mean more rape. That's what your position wants, since you're not interested in focusing on the rapists.

The other problem you're ignoring is that we already know for a fact that most rapes happen between two people who already know each other. The victim knows her rapist and the rape doesn't happen in some random alleyway but indoors in a place that is familiar to both of them- a car, one of their homes, etc. In other words, most women who are raped are not raped while dressed for the club or a party, and so changing that won't really address the problem, since it didn't cause it.

 

[CouldntBeMeTho]

So what happens if a woman is raped and she is found to have been wearing "rape provoking" clothes? will the rapist not be found guilty?

*rapist- "officer it's not my fault, she was wearing a mini-skirt. I had no choice but to rape her"


*officer- "damn thats a nice mini-skirt"
*proceeds to rape her again.

Wouldnt it be just as "sensible" to have men wear fukking blinders, so they cant look at women, maybe just wear eye patches?

thats like a cokehead supergluing their nose shut so they cant snort coke... (bill maher quote)

 

[Crakface]

I don't mean more rape. That's what your position wants, since you're not interested in focusing on the rapists.

The other problem you're ignoring is that we already know for a fact that most rapes happen between two people who already know each other. The victim knows her rapist and the rape doesn't happen in some random alleyway but indoors in a place that is familiar to both of them- a car, one of their homes, etc. In other words, most women who are raped are not raped while dressed for the club or a party, and so changing that won't really address the problem, since it didn't cause it.

My logic operates in reality, yours is in woulda coulda shoulda. Think of a solution within the current government of Swaziland. What are leaders, who think the way they do, going to do? You cant snap a finger and make them think like you. It has taken a long time for people in the US get to where they are. Alot of women who have been raped and beaten have been ignored to get to where we are. You supposed to be TheReal but you talkin fantasies. I think to get to the place you speak of we have to give a middle finger to women who get raped in favor of whores.