Supreme Court Overturns Roe v. Wade

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The economic impact and the renewed attention data privacy is getting is interesting. I wonder what sort of pressure this will put on corporate interests and how this will effect things from a political perspective? :jbhmm:
i'm wondering if any doctors will leave states that banned abortion and how many.:jbhmm:
 
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Also, Nancy Pelosi said if you donate just 15 bucks and vote for them again, they will definitely codify it in law this time. Please ignore they failed to do so over a 50 year period when they held super majorities.




Even Peter Popoff would have to hit the :picard: at the unabashed audacity of such shamelessness contained in that email.

I have to take my hat off to her. Nancy gonna get that bread by any and all means and don't give two flyin fukks what you or anybody else thinks about it. :whew:
 

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The average American is emotional. They don't understand being pragmatic. I'm pretty sure i'm gonna quoted by some loser who still doesn't get it, saying I'm a corporatist, an agent or sell out. The fact that some of these posters are in their 30s and 40s and still think a politician is going to change their lives dramatically...to the point that they get boiling mad after they're elected and nothing changes for them. Like breh, how many elections cycles have you lived through and yet you still think this way? When has a politician ever dramatically changed your life for the better? All I need for a politician to do is not fukk up. Not to dramatically raise taxes, not cause the economy to crater and if so, do their best to lessen the severity of it, pass a few bills that benefit my community and maintain some level of stability for our country. That's it. That's all I need. All these cats who handed 2016 to Trump because Hilary didn't excite them enough are retarded as hell in my opinion. Looking for a politician to change their lives, instead of being pragmatic and picking the one that would govern most effectively out of the (real) choices we had. Our collective inability to do that brought Trump in. Gave us years of shameless corruption, a pandemic that was horrendously managed, an uptick in white nationalism and now, a Supreme Court that will buttfukk us for decades.

But but Hilary didn't visit Wisconsin and Michigan.

FOH.

You really showed her. And played yourself.

Edit: On a side note, that same emotional thinking is what has people wanting the Filibuster thrown out. A part of me understands why Dems would want to do it but, another part of me realizes longterm its dangerous. Republicans are moving 2-3 steps ahead of us and have been for a while. Republicans have to know that by constantly kicking us in the face Dems/Progressives will want to toss out the Filibuster, which means they have a plan for it. We can't even beat these nikkas now with them gerrymandering, ignoring SC and cabinet appointees, then packing the courts and striking down high profile laws. I know they're salivating for when they just need a simple majority vs. a supermajority to pass the worst sh*t they can think of. People just need to STFU, go out and vote in 2022 and 2024, give the Dems a strong majority in both houses, and then what I will agree with the critics on is Dems need to stop being hoes once they get a large majority. IDK how I feel about the filibuster but, Dems at least need to pack the courts, and implement term limits, etc. to reverse what Trump did.
Tell me you are a corporatist agent sellout without telling me :mjgrin:
 

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i'm wondering if any doctors will leave abortion states and how many.:jbhmm:
The only problem is that a lot of doctors are quite right wing. The channel in the doctors lounge was usually tuned to Fox News (certainly in surgery). The few times I leave my office to chat it up with them, it still is. :francis:

Also moving one's license from one state to another can be hassle overall, so I'd wonder about left-wing doctors even bothering.
 

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The only problem is that a lot of doctors are quite right wing. The channel in the doctors lounge was usually tuned to Fox News (certainly in surgery). The few times I leave my office to chat it up with them, it still is. :francis:

Also moving one's license from one state to another can be hassle overall, so I'd wonder about left-wing doctors even bothering.

all that can change quickly with enough political pressure.
 

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The only problem is that a lot of doctors are quite right wing. The channel in the doctors lounge was usually tuned to Fox News (certainly in surgery). The few times I leave my office to chat it up with them, it still is. :francis:

Also moving one's license from one state to another can be hassle overall, so I'd wonder about left-wing doctors even bothering.
Fox is just on in general. But it usually falls along age lines just like outside the hospital. A larger swath of med students, residents and fellows will be more liberal. My non black pediatrician had a Black Lives Matter pin on the other day.

Edit: also of course depends where you are region wise
 

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all that can change quickly with enough political pressure.
That's true. I can see more liberal states loosening restrictions and so on. It would be interesting to see the conservatives try and push for a federal countermove at that point. I can't imagine what that would be though.

Fox is just on in general. But it usually falls along age lines just like outside the hospital. A larger swath of med students, residents and fellows will be more liberal. My non black pediatrician had a Black Lives Matter pin on the other day.

Edit: also of course depends where you are region wise
True, the younger doctors tend to be more liberal, but somewhere along the way some change. Partly the money, partly other things. The funny part is, there are some that are conservative but they are so because of their money and issues with policing. Other stuff, like abortion they can be liberal on or at least, indifferent but more than anything, don't like big changes. The latter may be pissed by this because they see it as instability and too big of a change. This is why some of them disliked Trump. He was too much in their eyes.
 

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That's true. I can see more liberal states loosening restrictions and so on. It would be interesting to see the conservatives try and push for a federal countermove at that point. I can't imagine what that would be though.


True, the younger doctors tend to be more liberal, but somewhere along the way some change. Partly the money, partly other things. The funny part is, there are some that are conservative but they are so because of their money and issues with policing. Other stuff, like abortion they can be liberal on or at least, indifferent but more than anything, don't like big changes. The latter may be pissed by this because they see it as instability and too big of a change. This is why some of them disliked Trump. He was too much in their eyes.
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Yeah but white pressure is going to be hard to not respond to. We will see what happens.
 
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