Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg passes away at 87

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Maybe if it was someone else, but I just can't see Biden doing that.

His whole persona is being a moderate who won't upset anybody too much. :francis:
i dont know honestly. normally i would agree but mcconnell actually doing this changes everything
 

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Maybe if it was someone else, but I just can't see Biden doing that.

His whole persona is being a moderate who won't upset anybody too much. :francis:
Dude, get with the times. Biden has said he would be willing to end the filibuster. I know that Kamala would be open to ending the filibuster. Also, so many Senate Democrats are now willing to end the filibuster. It's only a matter of how many seats the Democrats win this year.
 

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Everybody and their mom's knew blaming the left was coming. It's written in your manuals and taught to you during orientation and training. That was expected.
It’s the left’s fault but at the same time they want the left to make it uncomfortable for Republicans to not confirm another SC justice. It’s hilarious.
 

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Dudes, want to blame Obama/Hillary/RBG for this happening. Yet, don't want to blame Democratic voters for not showing up for the 2010 & 2014 midterms and not showing up in certain key states in 2016 :snoop:
How can you blame the voters when most don’t even realize mid terms exist? They don’t teach the shyt in school and it isn’t really advertised cause it’s not sexy like the presidential election. Media doesn’t cover the shyt or primaries every year, I can’t tell you how many times I’m speaking to people and they say “I didn’t know there was an election”. This shyt is all by design, I’m not both siding but dems also love that voters don’t know that elections happen every year. Keeps them in office in safe districts.

Where we’re at today is due to years and decades of the bad or not as bad outcome happening but RBG could’ve stepped down when it was possible, she was smelling her own shyt and as a result the population pays the price. These people in power and those with money don’t care about us and will make the selfish choice every time, everything they do and decide on doesn’t effect them the way it does us. We’re pawns in a game:francis:
 

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How can you blame the voters when most don’t even realize mid terms exist? They don’t teach the shyt in school and it isn’t really advertised cause it’s not sexy like the presidential election. Media doesn’t cover the shyt or primaries every year, I can’t tell you how many times I’m speaking to people and they say “I didn’t know there was an election”. This shyt is all by design, I’m not both siding but dems also love that voters don’t know that elections happen every year. Keeps them in office in safe districts.

Where we’re at today is due to years and decades of the bad or not as bad outcome happening but RBG could’ve stepped down when it was possible, she was smelling her own shyt and as a result the population pays the price. These people in power and those with money don’t care about us and will make the selfish choice every time, everything they do and decide on doesn’t effect them the way it does us. We’re pawns in a game:francis:
Fair enough. I have said numerous times previously that RBG should have retired in 2013/2014. But let's not also forget, that people knew the stakes in 2016, Scalia died and Trump was the GOP nominee. Hillary lost, but now people have a chance to change that in 2020. The only way to do that is to vote for Biden. if certain people don't show up and Trump gets re-elected then this country deserves the right-wing authoritarian oligarchy that will follow for the next 30-50 years.
 

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And then what did Harry Reid and the Dems in the Senate do? They stopped them right?
So Obama had no pull whatsoever to stop the budget? He submits it right?
Theoretically, if the House and Senate has both been Republican and submitted a budget to Obama to sign, then he could have vetoed it which would have resulted in the government shutting down. But that’s not what happened. And we are getting further from your original point which was that Obama should have shut the government down in response to the Senate not voting on Garland, which is clearly erroneous. Can we agree that Obama didn’t have the power to do that?
 

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I woke up today feeling depressed and anger. I'm furious with the 2016 non-voter. 100M fukking people didn't vote in 2016.

I remember I made a thread in TLR leading up to the election providing voting information and posters were questioning why.

Here's the thread. It's disgusting. I even said in the second or third post that even if you didn't like Hillary, it's important to go vote for the sake of the courts.

https://www.thecoli.com/threads/tod...enn-florida-ga-illinois-michigan-ohio.469869/
 

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Let's go another angle, when Scalia died was nominating a borderline Republican who the Rs might accept the right move? And when they told Obama to kick rocks, was just being complacent and expecting Hillary to be the next president the right move?
You think McConnell would have allowed a vote on a progressive liberal? He absolutely wouldn’t have. The outcome would have been the same.

What other move did Obama have, constitutionally, in the face of what the Senate did?
 

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I woke up today feeling depressed and anger. I'm furious with the 2016 non-voter. 100M fukking people didn't vote in 2016.

I remember I made a thread in TLR leading up to the election providing voting information and posters were questioning why.

Here's the thread. It's disgusting. I even said in the second or third post that even if you didn't like Hillary, it's important to go vote for the sake of the courts.

https://www.thecoli.com/threads/tod...enn-florida-ga-illinois-michigan-ohio.469869/
When u n1ggaz in Texas can't find birth control or an abortion clinic, good luck
 

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So this is how the Roosevelt political cycle end in 2020. :wow: America typically goes through 80 year political cycles. The Roosevelt cycle started in 1940 and ends this year. A very consequential election year. We are entering a period of even more division and partisanship. From what I am hearing from alot off Dems if bytch McConell goes along with this Democrats are gonna go nuclear if they win the Senate. We need all types of reforms. Make DC and PR as states. Expand the House of Representatives. Pack the courts and the lower courts. Abolish the filibuster. We need radical ideas at this point to push back against the right wing.
 

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Theoretically, if the House and Senate has both been Republican and submitted a budget to Obama to sign, then he could have vetoed it which would have resulted in the government shutting down. But that’s not what happened. And we are getting further from your original point which was that Obama should have shut the government down in response to the Senate not voting on Garland, which is clearly erroneous. Can we agree that Obama didn’t have the power to do that?
Yes, that's what I was advocating for when you quoted me originally. Even if he didn't do exactly that he could have done more to put the RS on the spot regarding their not holding a vote on his nominee. It was inadequate. He didn't have to necessarily get the vote but damn at least try harder instead of taking a Clinton presidency as a given.
 

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You think McConnell would have allowed a vote on a progressive liberal? He absolutely wouldn’t have. The outcome would have been the same.

What other move did Obama have, constitutionally, in the face of what the Senate did?
Obstruct, grind legislation to a hault. Nothing is getting signed until we have a vote.
 
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Theoretically, if the House and Senate has both been Republican and submitted a budget to Obama to sign, then he could have vetoed it which would have resulted in the government shutting down. But that’s not what happened. And we are getting further from your original point which was that Obama should have shut the government down in response to the Senate not voting on Garland, which is clearly erroneous. Can we agree that Obama didn’t have the power to do that?

There is a position as a legal argument that says a president can appoint a judge if the Senate refuses to do so because they've abdicated their constitutional duty. Constitutionally, the prez has the power to appoint SC judges, so if the Senate does nothing, that legally should not bind the prez's hands. Which in hindsight, he 100% should have done.
 

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How can you blame the voters when most don’t even realize mid terms exist? They don’t teach the shyt in school and it isn’t really advertised cause it’s not sexy like the presidential election. Media doesn’t cover the shyt or primaries every year, I can’t tell you how many times I’m speaking to people and they say “I didn’t know there was an election”. This shyt is all by design, I’m not both siding but dems also love that voters don’t know that elections happen every year. Keeps them in office in safe districts.

Where we’re at today is due to years and decades of the bad or not as bad outcome happening but RBG could’ve stepped down when it was possible, she was smelling her own shyt and as a result the population pays the price. These people in power and those with money don’t care about us and will make the selfish choice every time, everything they do and decide on doesn’t effect them the way it does us. We’re pawns in a game:francis:
People would know midterms exist if Election Day was a federal holiday every year. This will give people time to vote in local, state and federal elections. Matter of fact make it election weekend. Allow voting starting Friday,Saturday,Sunday, Monday and Tuesday.
 
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