SUPERMAN by James Gunn (Coming 2025)

[Saysumthinfunnymike]

I said James Gunn is a better director than Snyder. What are you confused by? @homiedontplaydat You came in here claiming that I was some sort of Snyder apologist and obviously I'm not if I'm stating Gunn is better.... you were bothered when I stated facts about how most people enjoyed 'Man of Steel.' All I did was state facts and I can cite more sources than the poll you wanted to whisk away. The Cinemascore for example for 'Man of Steel' was an A-

 

[Saysumthinfunnymike]

Let's put this to rest.

Man Of Steel Gets An A- CinemaScore

Back when Man Of Steel was getting blasted by many critics, Comicbook.com predicted that the movie [...]

comicbook.com

"Back when Man Of Steel was getting blasted by many critics, Comicbook.com predicted that the movie would play much better with audiences, and we were right. Man Of Steel has received an A- from viewers on CinemaScore, which is an excellent rating. While critics seemed to harp on the fact that it wasn't the Richard Donner version of Superman that they fondly remembered, the general public seemed to be much more accepting of director Zack Snyder's new take on the Man Of Steel. Many critics had also complained that Man Of Steel had too much action, but audiences tend to actually like lots of action in their, you know, action movies. "

 

[Hopeofmypeople]

I said James Gunn is a better director than Snyder. What are you confused by? @homiedontplaydat You came in here claiming that I was some sort of Snyder apologist and obviously I'm not if I'm stating Gunn is better.... you were bothered when I stated facts about how most people enjoyed 'Man of Steel.' All I did was state facts and I can cite more sources than the poll you wanted to whisk away. The Cinemascore for example for 'Man of Steel' was an A-

My bad, yeah I hear that I thought you was implying Snyder was better. I guess we will have to agree to disagree. Those movies were atrocious let’s be grateful for what Gunn is about to give us.

 

[Hopeofmypeople]

Let's put this to rest.

Man Of Steel Gets An A- CinemaScore

Back when Man Of Steel was getting blasted by many critics, Comicbook.com predicted that the movie [...]

comicbook.com

"Back when Man Of Steel was getting blasted by many critics, Comicbook.com predicted that the movie would play much better with audiences, and we were right. Man Of Steel has received an A- from viewers on CinemaScore, which is an excellent rating. While critics seemed to harp on the fact that it wasn't the Richard Donner version of Superman that they fondly remembered, the general public seemed to be much more accepting of director Zack Snyder's new take on the Man Of Steel. Many critics had also complained that Man Of Steel had too much action, but audiences tend to actually like lots of action in their, you know, action movies. "

Just a shame this so called fondness for Synders movies didn’t translate to the box office. Then again Rebel Moon was the biggest film of 2023 and if it was in movie theatres it would have outcrossed Barbie hmmm so maybe…

 

[Saysumthinfunnymike]

Just a shame this so called fondness for Synders movies didn’t translate to the box office. Then again Rebel Moon was the biggest film of 2023 and if it was in movie theatres it would have outcrossed Barbie hmmm so maybe…

Moving goalposts... I thought we were discussing audiences?

Also, it was the 4th highest grossing movie of 2013. Far from a "flop"

 

[Hopeofmypeople]

Moving goalposts... I thought we were discussing audiences?

Also, it was the 4th highest grossing movie of 2013. Far from a "flop"

Not moving anything I am saying the box office was a reflection of audiences overall interest. If the audience like something they will repeatedly go and see it especially with good word of mouth. I feel like we are just going round and round repeating the same thing. These movies were not generally loved no matter how many polls you present. Not a flop but based on what its competitor was doing at the time these movies underperformed.


You do know you are allowed to like a movie that isn’t universally loved right? You can like these trash ass movies without pretending they are these beloved movies held in high esteem by general movie goers.

 

[Jaguar93]

Snyderverse we off that

 

[Mortal1]

Revisionist history. They gave Snyder the keys to their "universe" and they wanted him to get right to 'Batman v. Superman' instead of leading with origin stories for the characters. He had plans for 'Man of Steel 2' but the execs at the time, who have since been fired long ago, wanted to fast-track the universe because of how much money Marvel was now making on team ups.

You can't post about this topic like I'm new to it and I don't know what happened

Nah this was Synder's fault he could've went with Brainiac/Supergirl sequel to MOS but he opened his dumb fukking mouth to WB and said how about lets add FRANK Miller old Batman without any of the set-up for it to work.

 

[Saysumthinfunnymike]

Nah this was Synder's fault he could've went with Brainiac/Supergirl sequel to MOS but he opened his dumb fukking mouth to WB and said how about lets add FRANK Miller old Batman without any of the set-up for it to work.

Nah David Goyer was interviewed last year about this very thing.

“I know the pressure we were getting from Warner Bros., which was, ‘We need our MCU! We need our MCU!’ And I was like let’s not run before we walk. The other thing that was difficult at the time was there was this revolving door of executives at Warner Bros. and DC. Every 18 months someone new would come in. We were just getting whiplash. Every new person was like, ‘We’re going to go bigger!'”

David Goyer Shares WB's "Crazy" Plan to Build Their Own Cinematic Universe - "This Is Not How You Build a House" — GeekTyrant

When Marvel Studios was at the height of their building their Marvel Cinematic Universe, Warner Bros. was looking to play catch-up real fast with their DC properties. They wanted to build their own superhero cinematic universe and they wanted to do it fast. That universe launched with Zack Snyde

geektyrant.com

 

[Saysumthinfunnymike]

You do know you are allowed to like a movie that isn’t universally loved right? You can like these trash ass movies without pretending they are these beloved movies held in high esteem by general movie goers.

That's true but in the case of 'Man of Steel' the Cinemascore was an A- and I already posted the article detailing audience reception.

 

[MoshpitMazi]

Hot take but Nolan was the worst thing to happen to the character if not the genre, That man clearly does not like comic books.

Negged, there hasn't been a comic book movie that's come close to the timelessness of TDK.


Gtfo

 

[MoshpitMazi]

Y'all rlly not gonna STFU about Snyder??? DAM

 

[Mortal1]

Nah David Goyer was interviewed last year about this very thing.

“I know the pressure we were getting from Warner Bros., which was, ‘We need our MCU! We need our MCU!’ And I was like let’s not run before we walk. The other thing that was difficult at the time was there was this revolving door of executives at Warner Bros. and DC. Every 18 months someone new would come in. We were just getting whiplash. Every new person was like, ‘We’re going to go bigger!'”

David Goyer Shares WB's "Crazy" Plan to Build Their Own Cinematic Universe - "This Is Not How You Build a House" — GeekTyrant

When Marvel Studios was at the height of their building their Marvel Cinematic Universe, Warner Bros. was looking to play catch-up real fast with their DC properties. They wanted to build their own superhero cinematic universe and they wanted to do it fast. That universe launched with Zack Snyde

geektyrant.com

From Synder's own dumb fukking mouth:

"When we started talking about what would be in the next movie, I started subtly mentioning that it would be cool if he faced Batman. In the first meeting, it was like, “Maybe Batman?” Maybe at the end of the second movie, some Kryptonite gets delivered to Bruce Wayne’s house or something. Like in a cryptic way, that’s the first time we see him. But then, once you say it out loud, right? You’re in a story meeting talking about, like, who should [Superman] fight if he fought this giant alien threat Zod who was basically his equal physically, from his planet, fighting on our turf… You know, who to fight next? The problem is, once you say it out loud, then it’s kind of hard to go back, right? Once you say, “What about Batman?” then you realize, “Okay, that’s a cool idea. What else?” I mean, what do you say after that? - Snyder"

Exclusive Interview With Zack Snyder, Director Of 'Batman Vs. Superman'

With the Man of Steel sequel about to start shooting in Detroit, fans have been hoping new information about the movie will drop soon, and desperately awaiting the reveal of the new batsuit and Wonder Woman costume. Well, dear readers, I had a chance to speak at length with the [...]

www.forbes.com

 

[Saysumthinfunnymike]

From Synder's own dumb fukking mouth:

How does that contradict Goyer? It says right there in the quote that he wanted to introduce Batman at the END of 'Man of Steel 2' like an Easter Egg/After credits and it was Warner Bros. that was pushing the "do it now! do it now!"

 

[The Devil's Advocate]

Just a shame this so called fondness for Synders movies didn’t translate to the box office. Then again Rebel Moon was the biggest film of 2023 and if it was in movie theatres it would have outcrossed Barbie hmmm so maybe…

Here's what you keep skipping over on purpose... Synder did one thing he wanted to do... MOS... it did better than every Marvel movie

Snyder then wanted to do exactly like Marvel and do sequels and origins for years until we finally get to a team up movie...

So far, he's 1 for 1... he's given a second shot... But with the second shot comes massa's rules that "No.. you no longer have control of what YOU want to do.. Shoehorn 4 major level characters in here, with no origin or the chance for the crowd to fall in love with this version... And then follow that up by adding 6 more nikkas and do the group up that nobody cares about."

"Oh it didn't work? That's your fault... Cause why did you do this?"

"Motherfukker cause you told me to when I told you it was a dumb ass idea"


WB forced the man to do 20 years of marvel in 3 films and can't figure out why it didn't work and also blame the man who didn't want to do it in the first place