Super Tuesday Primary: Biden wins 9 of 14 states; leads delegate count 637 to 559

Who Comes Out With The Most Pledged Delegates After Super Tuesday?


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Actually6Foot3

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It was all just to protect his money
precisely. Tax cuts = billions in savings. He will then take that money and spend some of it buying more politicians who will in turn pass legislation to help him. Or at the very least kill any legislation that threatens to separate him from a single penny of his billions.
 

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Word. I respect and agree with most of what you’re saying. But I think you can also agree that Americans often prefer the inferior product. I think progressives should continue attempting to push people left. We’re in a better spot than we were 4 years ago for it. In another 4 years who knows where we’ll be? We may never win, but we can drag these fukkers as far as they’re willing to go each time.
That's all good and fine, but let's acknowldge this, the progressive push left to achieve a policy, or to make a progressive position moderate, has resulted in incremental change which has been good for the country.

It's still all incremental, not wide scale, bit it WORKS.

I think that's what moderates on this board have been trying to explain and they get shot down for it.
 

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I think if they did it from the beginning, they'd have a much better chance right now.

Liz could have used her establishment influence to bring the party closer to Bernie's message and could have earned him some friends within the party. That way if liz fell off, the party wouldn't have been so opposed to Bernie since he tried taking liz to the top with him. And if Bernie failed, he could have still had liz to fall back on.

Bernie supporters put liz on the defensive and she pushed back in a way that killed her buzz with progressives. Now Bernie needs help and liz isnt in a position to give it to him, and maybe she's too bitter to help him anyway which is wrong for her to do, but progressive voters made it that way.

Progressives ain't getting shyt done now, this is officially a shyt show.
Sad moment of clarity.
 

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precisely. Tax cuts = billions in savings. He will then take that money and spend some of it buying more politicians who will in turn pass legislation to help him. Or at the very least kill any legislation that threatens to separate him from a single penny of his billions.

So he rather spend $500 million on a fraud campaign than to use that money to put in Medicare 4 All or to eliminate student debt once and for all. :wow:

Anything to prevent "undesirable" people from having anything close to their European counterparts.
 

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I give credit when due so that other politicians will follow suit because I'm not a Never Trumper aka Dem apologist that pretends to prioritize policies over their agenda...as this early primary result show, all that rhetoric about big pharma, oligarch, wealth gap, and unions was bullshyt

Naw, don't feel like that, don't ever feel like that. As I have said in a prior post. Elections are about time and place as a nation. Everything that you've mentioned matters. Healthcare costs too much, mostly everyone agrees on that. Unions are not as strong as they used to be 20 years ago. Some of that is globalization and sheer numbers dwindling stateside. However, there is typically a pecking order to the priorities for every election. Most people voting blue just want to see Donald Trump as far away from 1600 Pennsylvania as possible. People like Rex Tillerson feels like 30 years ago. We are just exhausted and want him gone. That is what this election is about primarily. It's best to keep these politicians at arms length, don't get emotionally invested to where you are mentally drained and questioning everything going on around you when they falter because that would mean that you were blinded by some weird light and simply were not paying attention to the things that are usually obvious to see. Politics, like management is all about building relationships and Bernie isn't interested in them. That's why he has only passed three bills that he's written in his entire career in Congress. He's written four books since 2016 though.

  • Veterans' Compensation Cost of Living Adjustment Act of 2013
  • A bill to designate the facility of the United States Postal Service located at 35 Park Street in Danville, Vermont, as the "Thaddeus Stevens Post Office" enacted: November, 2014
  • A bill to designate the facility of the United States Postal Service located at 1 Marble Street in Fair Haven, Vermont, as the "Matthew Lyon Post Office Building" enacted: August, 2006

“Sen. Sanders is not a team player,” one former lawmaker told The Daily Beast. “He is an ideologue, he is rigid, he is inflexible—he has a point of view that is locked down, and it’s not going to change; he’s not interested in compromise.” The Senate, said a former colleague of Sanders’, “is a place where almost everything is done with others. If you’re going to be effective and get things done, you have to work with others. That’s not Sen. Sanders’ typical style.”

What Bernie Really Got Done in His 29 Years in Congress

I'm a black man and just as general principle by living in America, you have to be risk-adverse to some extent and take the best odds, not the long shot. I'm pragmatic to a fault. Republicans stopped Obama from getting a Supreme Court judge but we are supposed to believe, earnestly that Bernie is going to ease all of his platform through Congress? The fact of the matter is that for as long as we are alive, the costs of a Republican president will weigh heavier on black people than most others. I know that black people will have the ear of Biden and will get some stuff done on behalf of black folks. Will it be perfect? No but what really is in politics? If Trump were to win a second term, he's going scorched earth on everyone but you want me and others like me to leave it in the hands of a person who basically passes bills to rename post offices in their home state as celebratory things in all the time he's spent in congress.

Like I said though, all of those things matter, just not as much right now. I'd be perfectly happy with Biden being a one term president and then handing it off to someone that move us to left more, incrementally and not faster than a Ferrari can go from 0-60 because that will never fly with the electorate.
 

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I swear folks a few days ago were positively rubbing their hands together at the possibility of Bloomberg taking votes off Biden, but now want to use it as an excuse for Sanders' performance?

Why didn't the campaign factor that in and work around it?

they're not arguing in good faith, it's really disappointing but I'm sure you know that already because you've been reading these threads the last few months
 
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